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RE: Gopher Football - 10/17/2010 6:39:42 PM   
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Wasn't Leach the guy who locked some kid with a concussion in a closet? NO WAY!!!


It was a NICE closet. I don't see a problem.
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RE: Gopher Football - 10/17/2010 7:12:35 PM   
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Yeah. Probably had some of those sweet smelling room fresheners in it.

Just say NO to Leach.

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/17/2010 7:39:18 PM   
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Frazier will help shore up the defense. I would choose him in a minute.

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/17/2010 9:03:47 PM   
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Dungey coaching is a pipe dream. I think Frazier would be a fine coach, but I think he is looking for an NFL head coaching job and isn't likely to accept the Gopher or any other college gig until after the NFL interview process. Trestman has a successful track record as a coordinator in the NFL and as a head coach in the CFL. 

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/17/2010 9:11:14 PM   
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Dungey coaching is a pipe dream.


Dungy took himself out of the running on "Football Night in America".
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RE: Gopher Football - 10/17/2010 9:45:41 PM   
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He has been taking himself out of it for at least a week now. He was asked on another program several days ago and has made it very clear he's not going back to coaching.

But perhaps he will still give some input to the search committee.

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/17/2010 10:10:12 PM   
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Hire Trestman. Leach concerns me with his lack of running game along with no defense, if you hire him he needs a top DC. I could see that busting in the Big Ten with cold weather games where a run game and defense are needed. Add to that the risk involved with his past, but he definately is proven. Frazier will be an NFL HC.

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/17/2010 11:28:04 PM   
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Who else is out there with a proven track record of success that isn't a head coach this season? 

Denny Green?  Too old?  He was a great college and very good NFL coach.  I want someone who has been a head coach, not another coordinator, position guy without head coaching experience.  That includes Frazier for me, I want a head coach.  I think if they had wanted Trestman, they would have picked him last time. 

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 8:47:39 AM   
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One of the Gopher beat writers from the Pioneer Press  was on MPR this morning. When asked what specifically it is that Wisconsin and Iowa do that the Gophers can’t seem to do he said it boiled to size. He said the premier athletes generally go to the elite programs and there isn’t much you can do about it. Wisconsin and Iowa counter that by recruiting size and building power running games. Build a massive wall of beef up front and control the ball. Then funnel the bulk of the top athletes to defense. It sounds like the Mason approach except Mase could never get the defense where it needed to be to complete. I don’t know if that is really true or not. I would like to have seen what would have happened if Brewster had stuck with Mike Dunbar and the spread. I think he lost the interest of a lot of offensive recruits when he switched horses in mid stream and tried the power running scheme. If he had been smart enough to commit to the offense that he spent his first 2 years recruiting he would have a dynamic scheme run by an elite coordinator and the ball would be in the hands of Marquis Gray, potentially an elite play maker, on every down.
 
I agree with the sentiment of getting a real head coach. I think the interest in Trestman is real this time around because he became a head coach since the last time the job was open and has been extremely successful with two Gray Cup championships.
 
One coach that really intrigues me is Kevin Sumlin of Houston. Troy Calhoun of Air Force is also kind of interesting.

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 9:13:09 AM   
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I'm in the Marc Trestman camp. (ducking)
Dude has paid dues at almost every level, and has had almost every level of success.
Come back to your alma mater and get this excrement straightened out.

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 9:23:40 AM   
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Frazier would be good, but I bet he has his sights set on being an NFL head coach.  He'll be on the short list of any NFL team looking to change coaches this off-season. 

I'd be OK with Trestman, of all the early rumored candidates.
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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 9:25:47 AM   
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Whatever happened to Larry Coker from Miami?  He won at least one national title.

I don't really know that many names that are out there.  None of us knew who Tim Brewster was when they hired him. 

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 9:44:37 AM   
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What's sad is that the most interest this program has generated was the day that Brewster's firing was announced.  The team has some talent, but without a good QB (even though Weber has started since his freshman season) and a defense, this season was going to end poorly anyway.  Weber has all the passing records, but does not seemed to have improved much at all since 2007.  He remains inconsistent with his accuracy and now has become very turnover prone when he decides to run the ball.  Too bad Brewster could not keep his 2007 coaching staff intact.  I think Weber would have been a better player under Dunbar and the defense would have been better with Withers or Ted Roof than they have been the last 2 seasons.  

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 10:06:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

One of the Gopher beat writers from the Pioneer Press  was on MPR this morning. When asked what specifically it is that Wisconsin and Iowa do that the Gophers can’t seem to do he said it boiled to size. He said the premier athletes generally go to the elite programs and there isn’t much you can do about it. Wisconsin and Iowa counter that by recruiting size and building power running games. Build a massive wall of beef up front and control the ball. Then funnel the bulk of the top athletes to defense. It sounds like the Mason approach except Mase could never get the defense where it needed to be to complete. I don’t know if that is really true or not. I would like to have seen what would have happened if Brewster had stuck with Mike Dunbar and the spread. I think he lost the interest of a lot of offensive recruits when he switched horses in mid stream and tried the power running scheme. If he had been smart enough to commit to the offense that he spent his first 2 years recruiting he would have a dynamic scheme run by an elite coordinator and the ball would be in the hands of Marquis Gray, potentially an elite play maker, on every down.
 
I agree with the sentiment of getting a real head coach. I think the interest in Trestman is real this time around because he became a head coach since the last time the job was open and has been extremely successful with two Gray Cup championships.
 
One coach that really intrigues me is Kevin Sumlin of Houston. Troy Calhoun of Air Force is also kind of interesting.


I've been saying for years that the Gophers need more beef on both lines

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 10:17:23 AM   
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Mike Max last night mentioned Skip Holtz. I say no on him as he will be like his dad and jump to another team. He just jumped from ECU to South Fla

Here is a few from the Trib

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/105148719.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUjc8LDyiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUoD3aPc:_2yc:a_ncyD_MDCiU

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 10:30:50 AM   
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For all the offensive scheme changes, turmoil, discussion, it wasn't the offense that got Brewster fired this year though.  The offense this year has shown it is capaple of scoring enough points to win some games. 

It is the defense that is horrible this year.  They can't stop anyone.  Teams move the ball down the field at will like it's a scrimmage and the defense is playing 3/4 speed.  There's no intensity, no urgency, no playmakers.

They knew going on to the year that defense was a huge question mark because of so many new starters.  The worst case scenario has played out.  They stink.
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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 10:35:40 AM   
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Looking at that list ....
I'd bet the farm we offer it to Leach.
Only because the heat is on Maturi finally, and he will have to go a tiny bit outside the comfort zone for once.
Pretty decent list, to be honest.

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 10:37:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

For all the offensive scheme changes, turmoil, discussion, it wasn't the offense that got Brewster fired this year though.  The offense this year has shown it is capaple of scoring enough points to win some games. 

It is the defense that is horrible this year.  They can't stop anyone.  Teams move the ball down the field at will like it's a scrimmage and the defense is playing 3/4 speed.  There's no intensity, no urgency, no playmakers.

They knew going on to the year that defense was a huge question mark because of so many new starters.  The worst case scenario has played out.  They stink.


The defense has been bad for years, not just under Brewster

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 10:38:11 AM   
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One of the Gopher beat writers from the Pioneer Press  was on MPR this morning. When asked what specifically it is that Wisconsin and Iowa do that the Gophers can’t seem to do he said it boiled to size. He said the premier athletes generally go to the elite programs and there isn’t much you can do about it. Wisconsin and Iowa counter that by recruiting size and building power running games. Build a massive wall of beef up front and control the ball. Then funnel the bulk of the top athletes to defense. It sounds like the Mason approach except Mase could never get the defense where it needed to be to complete. I don’t know if that is really true or not. I would like to have seen what would have happened if Brewster had stuck with Mike Dunbar and the spread. I think he lost the interest of a lot of offensive recruits when he switched horses in mid stream and tried the power running scheme. If he had been smart enough to commit to the offense that he spent his first 2 years recruiting he would have a dynamic scheme run by an elite coordinator and the ball would be in the hands of Marquis Gray, potentially an elite play maker, on every down.

I agree with the sentiment of getting a real head coach. I think the interest in Trestman is real this time around because he became a head coach since the last time the job was open and has been extremely successful with two Gray Cup championships.

One coach that really intrigues me is Kevin Sumlin of Houston. Troy Calhoun of Air Force is also kind of interesting.


I've been saying for years that the Gophers need more beef on both lines



I'm gonna disagree to a point on this.  Our O-line this year is just slightly smaller than Wisconsin's...and clearly bigger than Iowa's.  Every starter and top backup is at or over 300 pounds.  We have gotten bigger there.  On the defensive line, our tackles are heavier than both Wisky & Iowa.  Edwards is 335!  Iowa's Klug, a minnesota kid is just 275....but a real nice player.  At DE, we can get every bit a big a necessary.  Hageman & Jacobs are around the 300 mark.  KGM is about 275.  The problem as I see it, is we don't have anyone who can rush the passer.  Wilhite and Garin are supposed to do that, but where are the results?  I remember Mason as the guy who used 240 DT's and 205 LB's.  If we are too small somewhere, it's probably at RB.  We don't have the big horses like Wisconsin.

I still say it's about getting the right players for your system, something Brew didn't do well enough.

And ultimately, it's winning......Brew was simply not a very good head coach in that regard.
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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 10:39:17 AM   
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I actually see something good in everyone on that list.
(And something bad)
Please get this right.

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 10:41:58 AM   
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At least Maturi has come out and said they will poney up the money for a name coach.  I tried to give him a chance but it was a kick in the gut when they announced Brewster.  I don't know about you guys, but when there is a leadership change on any of my teams, the first thing in my mind shouldn't be "who?".


It's happened to me twice now and neither one are working out (Richards). 
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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 10:42:22 AM   
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Agree w karl ... I don't see a size problem at all, we have continued to stockpile HUGE O-linemen.
Didn't say good ones, just huge ones.

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 10:42:25 AM   
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Troy Calhoun, Air Force head coach: He runs the triple option, an offense uniquely suited to beat teams with more talent. That should appeal to the Gophers.

Ouch! That hurts.

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 10:43:15 AM   
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At least Maturi has come out and said they will poney up the money for a name coach.  I tried to give him a chance but it was a kick in the gut when they announced Brewster.  I don't know about you guys, but when there is a leadership change on any of my teams, the first thing in my mind shouldn't be "who?".


It's happened to me twice now and neither one are working out (Richards). 


Great point .... I'm still asking "who is this nerd coaching the Vikings?"

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RE: Gopher Football - 10/18/2010 10:45:45 AM   
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At least I had heard of Kick Ass.  He was the nerd (great one!) that got humiliated by Owens on national TV.  Has to account for something right?
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