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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 8:08:21 AM   
John Childress


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Fisher has not won a playoff game since 2003!

The only time he won 2 playoff games in a year was the MCM year in 1999!

Seriously, how is he even employed?

13-3 a few years ago and lost in the 1st round?

With McNair, Collins, Young he has never been able to duplicate that fluke 1999 season that was built more on Eddie George and steroid enhanced Javon Kearse (and DC Greg Williams) than any great coaching by Fisher.

Fisher without Greg Williams as DC looks like Parcels without Belichick

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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 8:46:11 AM   
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I am baffled with the Jeff Fisher love as well.
 
Also, if Al Davis keeps changing coaches every 2-3 years he's never going to get that program moving in the right direction.  Oakland will not be relevant again until he dies or is forced to give up the team due to health.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 11:02:17 AM   
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Jeff Fisher:

6 playoff appearances in 17 years.

5/6 career playoff record.

Has not won a playoff game in 7 years.

Has not won more than 1 playoff game in a season in 12 years.

Has 3 years out of 17 where he won a playoff game.

Ten 3rd or 4th place division finishes in 17 years.

Twice finished 13-3 and lost his first playoff game.
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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 11:05:05 AM   
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I've said it before when mentioning all that; I'd rather have Denny Green.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 11:14:28 AM   
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Jeff Fisher:

6 playoff appearances in 17 years.

5/6 career playoff record.

Has not won a playoff game in 7 years.

Has not won more than 1 playoff game in a season in 12 years.

Has 3 years out of 17 where he won a playoff game.

Ten 3rd or 4th place division finishes in 17 years.

Twice finished 13-3 and lost his first playoff game.


I can't imagine any other coach choking so badly with 2 #1 seeds and still having a job

The media likes him

1 time in 17 years has his team won multiple playoff games

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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 11:15:26 AM   
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And I never get why the media likes him so much:

1) He's a prick.
2) He's dry as hell. As dry as Chilly.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 11:19:05 AM   
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And I never get why the media likes him so much:

1) He's a prick.
2) He's dry as hell. As dry as Chilly.

AND

His teams frequently

1. Play dirty
2. Choke in big games
3. Have lots of bad dudes on them

Seriously, the Titans have had as many character issues as anyone. The team underperforms in the clutch - yet Fisher is a great coach?

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RE: NFL News - 1/5/2011 11:34:07 AM   
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Maybe it's mustache love.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 11:40:40 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: John Childress

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And I never get why the media likes him so much:

1) He's a prick.
2) He's dry as hell. As dry as Chilly.

AND

His teams frequently

1. Play dirty
2. Choke in big games
3. Have lots of bad dudes on them

Seriously, the Titans have had as many character issues as anyone. The team underperforms in the clutch - yet Fisher is a great coach?


Yep. I believe they've had more arrests than anyone in football since 2005 or something (yes, more than the Bengals).

And I just heard yesterday that they've had the 2nd most fines in football over the last 10 years (#1 is us, unfortunately).

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RE: NFL News - 1/5/2011 11:41:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

Maybe it's mustache love.


as good an explanation as any i guess.

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RE: NFL News - 1/5/2011 12:33:48 PM   
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Explain Wandstedt then?  Oh thats right....you CAN'T explain the Wandstedt.  You can only hope to contain him.
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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 2:16:42 PM   
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I am baffled with the Jeff Fisher love as well.
 
Also, if Al Davis keeps changing coaches every 2-3 years he's never going to get that program moving in the right direction.  Oakland will not be relevant again until he dies or is forced to give up the team due to health.


I'm guessing Davis only has 1-2 more hire/fire cycles left.
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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 3:19:19 PM   
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Absolutely I'd take Fisher over Young.

But neither will ever win a SuperBowl.


One of them came a yard short of doing just that.  And shutting down one of the most dynamic offenses ever devised in the process.  I wouldn't be so sure.






I wouldn't call holding Kurt Warner to a Super Bowl record 414 passing yards with zero turnovers, shutting him down.
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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 3:22:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: John Childress

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

And I never get why the media likes him so much:

1) He's a prick.
2) He's dry as hell. As dry as Chilly.

AND

His teams frequently

1. Play dirty
2. Choke in big games
3. Have lots of bad dudes on them

Seriously, the Titans have had as many character issues as anyone. The team underperforms in the clutch - yet Fisher is a great coach?


Not to mention his team has quit on him twice in the past 2 seasons. Funny it was Vince Young who saved their season from total collapse, along with CJ of course.
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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 4:50:19 PM   
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Totally forgot about this. Should be interesting:

Mike Spofford of Packers.com beat us to the punch Wednesday: This weekend will mark the debut of the NFL's new playoff overtime rule, one that should be of particular note to Green Bay fans.

The Packers played two overtime games during the regular season, and as the chart shows, have had four overtime playoff games in the past six seasons. (One, coincidentally, was against this Sunday's opponent, the Philadelphia Eagles.)

To summarize the new rule: A playoff game can no longer be decided by a first-possession field goal in overtime. If the first team to gain possession in overtime kicks a field goal, the second team is guaranteed a possession. Only at that point will the game become a sudden-death situation.

If that first team scores a touchdown, however, the game is over immediately and the second team gets no possession.

The idea behind the rule, enacted last spring, is to avoid the kind of quick endings -- short kickoff and a couple of passes followed by a long field goal -- that are particularly disquieting in the playoffs.

Speaking Wednesday to reporters in Green Bay, coach Mike McCarthy said he has discussed strategic options with Mike Eayrs, his director of research and development. The rule adds a few wrinkles to game management, including whether to push for a touchdown on a first possession or whether to settle for a field goal. (I truly hope no coach will defer the overtime kickoff as a result, but you never know.)

For what it's worth, none of the Packers' recent overtime playoff games would have been impacted by this rule. Two were decided by touchdowns, and both teams had at least one overtime possession in the others.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 5:08:30 PM   
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It is a dumb rule

If you don't want to lose play special teams and defense

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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 5:13:11 PM   
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I wouldn't mind going to more of a college OT system, but starting at the 40-50 instead of the 25. Something like that.

I do think there should be more equality than a simple coin flip.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 5:31:16 PM   
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That is the myth that keeps being put out there.

The coin flip doesn't determine a thing - your special teams and defense determine who wins.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 5:50:23 PM   
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It does, percentage-wise.

Because it's not just about the first possession. Teams often get a FG on their 2nd possession, while the other team gets just one crack at it.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 5:54:05 PM   
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Just move the OT kick-off back to where it used to be:

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Since 1994 when the overtime kickoff was moved from the 35-yard line to the 30, teams winning the coin toss have won 58.9% of overtime games compared to 46.8% from 1974 and 1993.
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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 5:55:16 PM   
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That's a pretty incredible stat; I did not know that.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 6:01:00 PM   
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Wow; Adams did choose Fisher over Young.

Wonder where he ends up.

This means that the Titans will be drafting a QB ahead of us in all likelihood (I could see Mallett being a Fisher-type guy). But it could also cross one off if a team decides to go with Young.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 7:22:41 PM   
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Totally forgot about this. Should be interesting:

Mike Spofford of Packers.com beat us to the punch Wednesday: This weekend will mark the debut of the NFL's new playoff overtime rule, one that should be of particular note to Green Bay fans.

The Packers played two overtime games during the regular season, and as the chart shows, have had four overtime playoff games in the past six seasons. (One, coincidentally, was against this Sunday's opponent, the Philadelphia Eagles.)

To summarize the new rule: A playoff game can no longer be decided by a first-possession field goal in overtime. If the first team to gain possession in overtime kicks a field goal, the second team is guaranteed a possession. Only at that point will the game become a sudden-death situation.

If that first team scores a touchdown, however, the game is over immediately and the second team gets no possession.

The idea behind the rule, enacted last spring, is to avoid the kind of quick endings -- short kickoff and a couple of passes followed by a long field goal -- that are particularly disquieting in the playoffs.

Speaking Wednesday to reporters in Green Bay, coach Mike McCarthy said he has discussed strategic options with Mike Eayrs, his director of research and development. The rule adds a few wrinkles to game management, including whether to push for a touchdown on a first possession or whether to settle for a field goal. (I truly hope no coach will defer the overtime kickoff as a result, but you never know.)

For what it's worth, none of the Packers' recent overtime playoff games would have been impacted by this rule. Two were decided by touchdowns, and both teams had at least one overtime possession in the others.


It's a good thing McNabb isn't in the playoffs this year, he'd really be confused.
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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 7:23:07 PM   
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RE: RE:NFL News - 1/5/2011 8:58:24 PM   
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The rule adds a few wrinkles to game management, including whether to push for a touchdown on a first possession or whether to settle for a field goal. (I truly hope no coach will defer the overtime kickoff as a result, but you never know.)

Considering that a TD ends the game, I would NOT think any coach would be dumb enough to do that, but you never know. I wouldn't put it past McCarthy or Ried. I don't think much of either of them, and believe that NEITHER of them will EVER win a SB.

I might be the minority here (but 'I WANNA BE THE MINORITY'), but I LIKE this rule change. The rules now favor the offenses so much, it's too easy for them to go get a FG when they've won the toss in OT, even against a good defense. Now there will be more attempts to get a TD, which could help the defenses, and result in a turnover. It will make the game even MORE interesting, and makes me even MORE happy that Childress is gone as I think it's likely he would make the WRONG decision in OT in a playoff game (hopefully Frazier proves a good decision maker in this regard).
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