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RE:NFL News - 9/7/2007 4:53:07 PM   
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[quote="Shawn Kandula"][quote="John Childress"]Manning started off slowly but the Saints could not capitalize on it. Bush was very tentative in his running. Several times he got taken down short of the 1st down by a much slower guy. Brees was awful. He was weak and inaccurate. I wonder if they miss Joe Horn a little as the young guys weren't as sharp. Peyton Manning and all his acting at the line of scrimmage is already getting old. Couple that with every freakin' commercial and I have already had a year's supply of him.[/quote] Sean Payton predicted that Brees will complete something like 28 of 31 passes or so. Brees believed his Coach and seemed to be mentally unprepared for the way and the speed at which the Colts defense played. With Sanders around, the young Colts cornerbacks could play deep and keep everything in front of them. Bush was indeed very tentative, and I felt that the Saints should have used Deuce to run more in the second Quarter and the early third quarter.[/quote] ********************************************** I agree about Deuce. In fact, he looked like he lost a little weight and also looked a little quicker. He needs 20+ carries a game, IMO.
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RE:NFL News - 9/7/2007 5:39:18 PM   
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Michaels and/or Madden made an interesting observation last night about how Indy concentrates so much on developing their own guys, rather than fool around with free agency. All but four current players on the Colts have never played for any other team than the Colts. The kicker and punter would be two and without looking I can't think of who the other two would be - but that is a pretty amazing stat. And clearly they've been successful with their strategy.
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RE:NFL News - 9/7/2007 5:51:47 PM   
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I thought that was amazing Lynn, hard to believe in this day and age.
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RE:NFL News - 9/7/2007 6:46:13 PM   
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"Bush was indeed very tentative, and I felt that the Saints should have used Deuce to run more in the second Quarter and the early third quarter. " EXACTLY When the game was still within reach they should have benched Bush and given McAlister full run.
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RE:NFL News - 9/8/2007 1:10:07 AM   
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Agreed it's easy to get tired of all Mannings exposure but let's face it, he's as good as anyone playing now. He has the ring and has the arm, instincts, and leadership to continue to exceed.
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RE:NFL News - 9/8/2007 4:19:56 AM   
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[quote="Shawn Kandula"][quote="John Childress"]Manning started off slowly but the Saints could not capitalize on it. Bush was very tentative in his running. Several times he got taken down short of the 1st down by a much slower guy. Brees was awful. He was weak and inaccurate. I wonder if they miss Joe Horn a little as the young guys weren't as sharp. Peyton Manning and all his acting at the line of scrimmage is already getting old. Couple that with every freakin' commercial and I have already had a year's supply of him.[/quote] Sean Payton predicted that Brees will complete something like 28 of 31 passes or so. Brees believed his Coach and seemed to be mentally unprepared for the way and the speed at which the Colts defense played. With Sanders around, the young Colts cornerbacks could play deep and keep everything in front of them. Bush was indeed very tentative, and I felt that the Saints should have used Deuce to run more in the second Quarter and the early third quarter.[/quote] It appears the Aints have spent too much time reading their press clippings.
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RE:NFL News - 9/8/2007 2:49:32 PM   
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Also, there is a substantial gap between the best of the AFC and the best of the NFC. Watch SD house the Bears
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RE:NFL News - 9/8/2007 4:44:10 PM   
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The Colt's speed on defense was very impressive. Green used to talk about having a fast defense and it looks like Dungy has put one together. Brees and Bush never could get started.
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RE:NFL News - 9/8/2007 4:44:30 PM   
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The Colt's speed on defense was very impressive. Green used to talk about having a fast defense and it looks like Dungy has put one together. Brees and Bush never could get started.
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RE:NFL News - 9/8/2007 7:17:58 PM   
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They're rerunning the Peyton Manning SNL episode tonight if you're interested.
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RE:NFL News - 9/8/2007 7:25:29 PM   
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Manning on SNL was excellent. I thought he was one of the best guests they'd had in a long time.
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RE:NFL News - 9/9/2007 4:59:05 AM   
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[quote="Steve Lentz"]Agreed it's easy to get tired of all Mannings exposure but let's face it, he's as good as anyone playing now. He has the ring and has the arm, instincts, and leadership to continue to exceed.[/quote] What can I say, I'm a Manning fan. He's the best QB in the league, probably in the last couple decades. In an era with mics and offensive coordinators and scripting of plays for he first half, he's the closest thing to a freelance QB. Maybe some of his gesturing is theatrics, but a lot of it is actually him reading the defense and then, at the line of scrimage, making sure all 10 guys on his team know what play he's calling. He literally decides pass or run as he's lining up a lot of the time. Frankly, I'll put up with the gestures, and if it helps, I hope T-Jack starts convulsing or doing the robot before each play. :scream:
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RE:NFL News - 9/9/2007 6:37:47 AM   
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[quote="Easy E"][quote="Steve Lentz"]Agreed it's easy to get tired of all Mannings exposure but let's face it, he's as good as anyone playing now. He has the ring and has the arm, instincts, and leadership to continue to exceed.[/quote] What can I say, I'm a Manning fan. He's the best QB in the league, probably in the last couple decades. In an era with mics and offensive coordinators and scripting of plays for he first half, he's the closest thing to a freelance QB. Maybe some of his gesturing is theatrics, but a lot of it is actually him reading the defense and then, at the line of scrimage, making sure all 10 guys on his team know what play he's calling. He literally decides pass or run as he's lining up a lot of the time. Frankly, I'll put up with the gestures, and if it helps, I hope T-Jack starts convulsing or doing the robot before each play. :scream:[/quote] ********************************************** I never much liked any of the Manning's but it's pretty clear Peyton is the best QB in the league. The thing that impresses me the most about him is his vision. He always sees the open WR. If you're a WR for Indy, and if you beat your man, he will get you the ball. Best job in the league is being a Colt WR.
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RE:NFL News - 9/9/2007 3:46:37 PM   
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[quote="Pete C"][quote="Easy E"][quote="Steve Lentz"]Agreed it's easy to get tired of all Mannings exposure but let's face it, he's as good as anyone playing now. He has the ring and has the arm, instincts, and leadership to continue to exceed.[/quote] What can I say, I'm a Manning fan. He's the best QB in the league, probably in the last couple decades. In an era with mics and offensive coordinators and scripting of plays for he first half, he's the closest thing to a freelance QB. Maybe some of his gesturing is theatrics, but a lot of it is actually him reading the defense and then, at the line of scrimage, making sure all 10 guys on his team know what play he's calling. He literally decides pass or run as he's lining up a lot of the time. Frankly, I'll put up with the gestures, and if it helps, I hope T-Jack starts convulsing or doing the robot before each play. :scream:[/quote] ********************************************** I never much liked any of the Manning's but it's pretty clear Peyton is the best QB in the league. The thing that impresses me the most about him is his vision. He always sees the open WR. If you're a WR for Indy, and if you beat your man, he will get you the ball. Best job in the league is being a Colt WR.[/quote] That is my feeling as well. He is a very good QB but I don't like him for both personal and professional reason. Professional He is not a strong armed QB and I always like the guys with the big guns. I really can't stand all his BS at the LOS pretending he is doing so much. Personal His golden boy image is a fake. Look at what he did to the girl in college. I can't stand all the commercials. Enough is enough But the only guy I would take over him right now is Brady. In 3 years Young
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RE:NFL News - 9/11/2007 3:42:26 AM   
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Russell signs. He's extra rich but set his development and career way back.
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RE:NFL News - 9/11/2007 2:22:13 PM   
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-- Patriots Could Lose Draft Pick(s) over Spying Incident -- Tue Sep 11, 2007 The Boston Herald reports the New England Patriots were caught illegally filming the Jets’ defensive signals Sunday - for at least the fourth time in the past year - and could lose a draft pick as a result, a league source said Monday. The Pats have a reputation throughout the league for such chicanery, noted former competition committee member Charley Casserly, who first broke the story of the Pats stealing signs last year for CBS. But not until the Jets confiscated a camera and sent it to the league offices following Sunday’s game - which HC Bill Belichick admitted being aware of during his weekly visit to WEEI - did rival clubs break their silence. According to league sources, the Packers and Lions also nabbed the Patriots filming their defensive signals, while the Bills suspected it and now are reviewing last year’s game tapes. Casserly’s report dealt with either the Jets, Bills, Broncos or Bengals. "There’s a league-wide perception that this is something they do," one rival executive noted. In each instance, the pattern appears to be the same. A Patriots employee with a team-issued credential records opposing coaches signaling the defensive plays. It’s unclear what the Pats do with the information, though sources in Green Bay believed the cameraman was relaying information to the Patriots bench via hand signals. Earlier this summer, a league spokesman said all 32 teams received a reminder that it is illegal to videotape opposing signals, adding that cameras can’t be used on the sidelines, in the booth, or in the locker room during a game. According to an ESPN report, the eight-man competition committee could investigate. Among its members are Titans HC Jeff Fisher and Colts president Bill Polian, who have clashed with the Pats in the past, as well as Lions GM Matt Millen, whose team believes it caught the Pats doing the same thing last December.
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RE:NFL News - 9/11/2007 4:37:41 PM   
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Patriots | Tomlinson comments on allegations of team spying Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:34:30 -0700 John Tomase, of the Boston Herald, reports San Diego Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson is not surprised by allegations the New England Patriots used a camera to steal signs. Tomlinson said, "I think the Patriots actually live by the saying, 'If you're not cheatin, you're not trying.' I mean, I think that's the way … they live off that statement. You keep hearing the different stories of people complaining about stuff that they do. So I'm not surprised."
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RE:NFL News - 9/11/2007 4:38:41 PM   
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Patriots | League confiscates camera after claims of team spying on Jets Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:31:20 -0700 Chris Mortensen, of ESPN.com, reports NFL security has confiscated a video camera and its tape from a New England Patriots employee on the team's sideline during the Week 1 game against the New York Jets in a suspected spying incident, according to sources. The camera and its tape were placed in a sealed box and forwarded to the league office for investigation. The Patriots' cameraman is suspected of aiming his camera at Jets' defensive coaches who were sending signals to their unit on the field. The NFL is also investigating some radio frequency issues that occurred during the game. It's not the first time the Patriots have had a cameraman on the field. Green Bay Packers president Bob Harlan confirmed a similar incident Nov. 19, 2006. The same cameraman who was questioned by NFL security Sunday, Sept. 9, was also the cameraman the Packers removed from the sideline and escorted from the field in 2006, according to Packers security official Doug Collins. "From what I can remember, he had quite a fit when we took him out. We had gotten word before the game that they [the Patriots] did this sort of thing, so we were looking for it," Harlan said.
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RE:NFL News - 9/11/2007 5:34:45 PM   
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IMO, this somewhat tarnishes Belicek and what the Pats have accomplished. To me, this is different from a player getting busted for steroids or some other enhancement. This is a comment to the integrity of the coaching staff and organization. It makes Belicek just look like a slimy weasel who will win at all costs even if it means compromising ethics along the way.
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RE:NFL News - 9/11/2007 6:07:52 PM   
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-- NFL Might Call Packers about Patriots Camera Incident in 2006 -- Tue Sep 11, 2007 The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports the Green Bay Packers may get a call from the NFL regarding the latest flap between the New England Patriots and New York Jets. According to several news reports, the Patriots are being accused of placing a video photographer on the sideline of their game against the Jets Sunday in the Meadowlands in an attempt to steal signals from their AFC East rival. Jets security caught the photographer aiming his camera at Jets defensive coaches on the field and confiscated the video tape. It has been forwarded it to the NFL for inspection. ESPN reported that this might not be the first time that the Patriots have attempted to steal signals that way, citing an incident last year at Lambeau Field where a video photographer with a Patriots-issued credential was told to put his camera down during the Packers-Patriots game Nov. 19. Packers spokesman Jeff Blumb confirmed that someone with a Patriots official pass was caught videotaping the game last year, but he said the Packers shut him down before the second quarter began because he was not part of the approved on-field photography pool. He said the Packers did not accuse him of stealing signals. "We asked him to put the camera away and he did," Blumb said. "Then he went behind their bench and worked with their still video crew. He was not a pool cameraman." Blumb said the Packers didn't confiscate his video. He said there was dialogue between the photographer and security officials about what he was doing, but the Packers didn't take any action other than to tell him to stop shooting the game.
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RE:NFL News - 9/11/2007 6:20:53 PM   
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From Profootballtalk.com WTAM radio in Cleveland reports that the Browns have traded quarterback Charlie Frye to an unnamed team. Because WTAM is the Browns' flagship radio station, the news is being regarded in media circles are legit. Per WTAM, Frye is being traded to make room for Ken Dorsey. Dorsey?? :shrug:
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RE:NFL News - 9/11/2007 8:04:07 PM   
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Haha, Frye was the starter not 3 days ago. :lol:
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RE:NFL News - 9/11/2007 9:17:22 PM   
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[quote="Jim Frenette"]From Profootballtalk.com WTAM radio in Cleveland reports that the Browns have traded quarterback Charlie Frye to an unnamed team. Because WTAM is the Browns' flagship radio station, the news is being regarded in media circles are legit. Per WTAM, Frye is being traded to make room for Ken Dorsey. Dorsey?? :shrug:[/quote] The cold shoulder that Daunte got this year reminds me of Randall in 1996. I can't believe that atnaltA (post-Vick), Kansas City, Detroit, Miami all thought that they didn't need him It seems many coaches would rather take a re-tread with no baggage than take a chance on a guy who can actually play but doesn't kiss their rear
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RE:NFL News - 9/11/2007 9:28:19 PM   
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Frye was traded to Seattle for a 6th round pick.
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RE:NFL News - 9/11/2007 10:32:57 PM   
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Just how many teams do you think have a legit shot to win the Super Bowl? (Win, not just get there) GOOD SHOT New England Indianapolis DECENT SHOT San Diego Pittsburgh LONG SHOT Chicago (too many injuries) Cincinnati (chokers) Dallas Seattle Denver http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20070911_S__Philly_man__20__slain_by_sword__2_men_sought.html
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