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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/10/2017 11:32:06 PM

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Yep - which is why the ref needs to call the pushoff.

Without due vigilance, the foul gradually becomes automatic.

hmmm... why did the year 1975 just pop into my brain ?

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/11/2017 2:13:12 PM

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Didn't realize that the Clemson defense stopped Alabama on 12 straight 3rd downs. Defense still matters in the college game. Maybe Nick missed Lane?

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/11/2017 5:06:11 PM

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Harbaugh just said he fell asleep during the Alabama/Clemson game.

Some would say he fell asleep during the Michigan/Florida State game.

His act has gotten old

As for Bama, so glad they lost

The SEC = overrated

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/11/2017 5:16:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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Harbaugh just said he fell asleep during the Alabama/Clemson game.

Some would say he fell asleep during the Michigan/Florida State game.

His act has gotten old

As for Bama, so glad they lost

The SEC = overrated

Watching Bama lose with their defense on the field was very rewarding.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/11/2017 5:18:56 PM

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Harbaugh just said he fell asleep during the Alabama/Clemson game.

Some would say he fell asleep during the Michigan/Florida State game.

His act has gotten old

As for Bama, so glad they lost

The SEC = overrated

Watching Bama lose with their defense on the field was very rewarding.

Greatest defense of all time according to some

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/11/2017 5:20:36 PM

Brad H

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ORIGINAL: JC2015

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: JC2015

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

Harbaugh just said he fell asleep during the Alabama/Clemson game.

Some would say he fell asleep during the Michigan/Florida State game.

His act has gotten old

As for Bama, so glad they lost

The SEC = overrated

Watching Bama lose with their defense on the field was very rewarding.

Greatest defense of all time according to some

Like the back seven a lot. Not sold on the guys up front for Bama. Linebackers were off the charts.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/11/2017 6:44:55 PM

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Lack of depth on the front line showed in the latter stages of the game

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/11/2017 6:48:25 PM

Brad H

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Lack of depth on the front line showed in the latter stages of the game

They play in the SEC, which has maybe one NFL quarterback right now. As I have been saying for quite some time, if your college team plays in a conference with no legit quarterbacks, the defenses will always seem better than they really are. The Big Ten was a prime example.

Of the top 10 quarterbacks getting ready to be drafted, only Chad Kelly from Ole Miss plays in either the SEC or Big Ten. Ole Miss scored 43 on Alabama. The other team on their schedule this year with a top-10 quarterback was Clemson, who rolled up 511 yards and 35 points.

Again, great defense, or great conference to have a defense?

The others around here say the Pac 12 is soft. As I have argued, they have more NFL-type quarterbacks in the Pac 12, making the defenses look worse. I think it's a solid argument.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/11/2017 7:22:20 PM

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Yep - which is why the ref needs to call the pushoff.

Without due vigilance, the foul gradually becomes automatic.

hmmm... why did the year 1975 just pop into my brain ?

I'll ask Todd M.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/11/2017 7:28:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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Lack of depth on the front line showed in the latter stages of the game

They play in the SEC, which has maybe one NFL quarterback right now. As I have been saying for quite some time, if your college team plays in a conference with no legit quarterbacks, the defenses will always seem better than they really are. The Big Ten was a prime example.

Of the top 10 quarterbacks getting ready to be drafted, only Chad Kelly from Ole Miss plays in either the SEC or Big Ten. Ole Miss scored 43 on Alabama. The other team on their schedule this year with a top-10 quarterback was Clemson, who rolled up 511 yards and 35 points.

Again, great defense, or great conference to have a defense?

The others around here say the Pac 12 is soft. As I have argued, they have more NFL-type quarterbacks in the Pac 12, making the defenses look worse. I think it's a solid argument.

The Pac 12 has the most starting NFL QBs today also

The SEC hype is way out of control

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/11/2017 7:32:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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Lack of depth on the front line showed in the latter stages of the game

They play in the SEC, which has maybe one NFL quarterback right now. As I have been saying for quite some time, if your college team plays in a conference with no legit quarterbacks, the defenses will always seem better than they really are. The Big Ten was a prime example.

Of the top 10 quarterbacks getting ready to be drafted, only Chad Kelly from Ole Miss plays in either the SEC or Big Ten. Ole Miss scored 43 on Alabama. The other team on their schedule this year with a top-10 quarterback was Clemson, who rolled up 511 yards and 35 points.

Again, great defense, or great conference to have a defense?

The others around here say the Pac 12 is soft. As I have argued, they have more NFL-type quarterbacks in the Pac 12, making the defenses look worse. I think it's a solid argument.

The Pac 12 has the most starting NFL QBs today also

The SEC hype is way out of control

When ESPN has an SEC channel, guess what teams are going to be promoted the most? The fans just follow along like sheep being led to the slaughter, thus ignoring the facts.

Is the SEC a great conference? Absolutely. But not on the level people thought for an 8-year period. They have had one or two programs that have been very good every year. They have also had six that were garbage.

Last week some were calling Alabama the greatest team ever. Wonder if they still feel that way.

I still say USC ('05), Nebraska ('95) and Miami ('01) were the greatest teams ever. Put them in whatever order you want. ('97) Michigan and ('91) Washington would also be in the conversation.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/12/2017 2:13:18 PM

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The SEC always has one or 2 great teams, just like every other Power 5 Conference.
The SEC though, always gets the advantage of 4-5 other SEC teams being called great as well.

Because SEC

Has Alabama been great?
Yes

The other SEC teams?
Not really.

It sure helped with 8 in a row by Always having a team in it.
The 2011 Oregon team likely rolls Notre Dame as well.
The 2010 Oregon team lost on a last second field goal after a questionable not down call on Michael Dyer.
The 2015 Oregon team led Ohio State in the third quarter.

Not making excuses, it is really hard to win.

I just think it's interesting that in the modern CFP format,
The ACC has won once, the SEC once, and the Big Ten once.

I think the 8 in a row by the SEC would have played out similarily spread and I also think an 8-team playoff would spread the titles among conferences even further.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/12/2017 3:23:14 PM

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Look at how each conference did in non-conference games against Top 50 teams

Only the ACC had a winning record

Bama has been the best team for years but as McMurfy states, the mediocre SEC teams are rated higher because of the hype

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/12/2017 5:18:50 PM

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Lack of depth on the front line showed in the latter stages of the game

They play in the SEC, which has maybe one NFL quarterback right now. As I have been saying for quite some time, if your college team plays in a conference with no legit quarterbacks, the defenses will always seem better than they really are. The Big Ten was a prime example.

Of the top 10 quarterbacks getting ready to be drafted, only Chad Kelly from Ole Miss plays in either the SEC or Big Ten. Ole Miss scored 43 on Alabama. The other team on their schedule this year with a top-10 quarterback was Clemson, who rolled up 511 yards and 35 points.

Again, great defense, or great conference to have a defense?

The others around here say the Pac 12 is soft. As I have argued, they have more NFL-type quarterbacks in the Pac 12, making the defenses look worse. I think it's a solid argument.

Agreed. very soft.

Pac 12 has the best qb's every year.

They also do the least with them every year.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/12/2017 8:24:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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Lack of depth on the front line showed in the latter stages of the game

They play in the SEC, which has maybe one NFL quarterback right now. As I have been saying for quite some time, if your college team plays in a conference with no legit quarterbacks, the defenses will always seem better than they really are. The Big Ten was a prime example.

Of the top 10 quarterbacks getting ready to be drafted, only Chad Kelly from Ole Miss plays in either the SEC or Big Ten. Ole Miss scored 43 on Alabama. The other team on their schedule this year with a top-10 quarterback was Clemson, who rolled up 511 yards and 35 points.

Again, great defense, or great conference to have a defense?

The others around here say the Pac 12 is soft. As I have argued, they have more NFL-type quarterbacks in the Pac 12, making the defenses look worse. I think it's a solid argument.

The Pac 12 has the most starting NFL QBs today also

The SEC hype is way out of control

Yep. Been saying it for years. People didn't believe me when I told them the Pac 10/12 was an even .500 against the SEC during the BCS era. Facts are facts.

When ESPN has an SEC channel, guess what teams are going to be promoted the most? The fans just follow along like sheep being led to the slaughter, thus ignoring the facts.

Is the SEC a great conference? Absolutely. But not on the level people thought for an 8-year period. They have had one or two programs that have been very good every year. They have also had six that were garbage.

Last week some were calling Alabama the greatest team ever. Wonder if they still feel that way.

I still say USC ('05), Nebraska ('95) and Miami ('01) were the greatest teams ever. Put them in whatever order you want. ('97) Michigan and ('91) Washington would also be in the conversation.

Nebraska 71 was as good as any of them.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/12/2017 8:53:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: JC2015

Lack of depth on the front line showed in the latter stages of the game

They play in the SEC, which has maybe one NFL quarterback right now. As I have been saying for quite some time, if your college team plays in a conference with no legit quarterbacks, the defenses will always seem better than they really are. The Big Ten was a prime example.

Of the top 10 quarterbacks getting ready to be drafted, only Chad Kelly from Ole Miss plays in either the SEC or Big Ten. Ole Miss scored 43 on Alabama. The other team on their schedule this year with a top-10 quarterback was Clemson, who rolled up 511 yards and 35 points.

Again, great defense, or great conference to have a defense?

The others around here say the Pac 12 is soft. As I have argued, they have more NFL-type quarterbacks in the Pac 12, making the defenses look worse. I think it's a solid argument.

Agreed. very soft.

Pac 12 has the best qb's every year.

They also do the least with them every year.

On a weekly basis it is the most exciting brand of football to watch.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/15/2017 11:52:17 AM

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Sports Illustrated has tried to name the best of the best all time in college football in their 258 page hard cover coffee table style book named College Football’s Greatest.

» The best single-season teams: No. 1 all time — Nebraska 1995. No. 2 all time — Nebraska 1971. No. 3 all time — USC 1972.

The best coaches: Paul Bryant, Alabama, No. 1, followed by Nick Saban, Alabama; Knute Rockne, Notre Dame; Joe Paterno, Penn State; Urban Meyer and Woody Hayes, Ohio State; Bobby Bowden, Florida State; Frank Leahy, Notre Dame; Bud Wilkinson, Oklahoma and Eddie Robinson, Grambling

Best wide receiver: Larry Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh
Best defensive lineman: Lee Roy Selmon, Oklahoma.
The best offensive lineman: John Hannah, Alabama.
The best walk-on player: J. J. Watt, defensive end, Wisconsin
» The best running back: Herschel Walker of Georgia, followed by Archie Griffin of Ohio State.
The best quarterback: Tim Tebow of Florida (surprise?) became the first sophomore Heisman Trophy winner.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/15/2017 8:16:55 PM

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Sports Illustrated has tried to name the best of the best all time in college football in their 258 page hard cover coffee table style book named College Football’s Greatest.

» The best single-season teams: No. 1 all time — Nebraska 1995. No. 2 all time — Nebraska 1971. No. 3 all time — USC 1972.

The best coaches: Paul Bryant, Alabama, No. 1, followed by Nick Saban, Alabama; Knute Rockne, Notre Dame; Joe Paterno, Penn State; Urban Meyer and Woody Hayes, Ohio State; Bobby Bowden, Florida State; Frank Leahy, Notre Dame; Bud Wilkinson, Oklahoma and Eddie Robinson, Grambling

Best wide receiver: Larry Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh
Best defensive lineman: Lee Roy Selmon, Oklahoma.
The best offensive lineman: John Hannah, Alabama.
The best walk-on player: J. J. Watt, defensive end, Wisconsin
» The best running back: Herschel Walker of Georgia, followed by Archie Griffin of Ohio State.
The best quarterback: Tim Tebow of Florida (surprise?) became the first sophomore Heisman Trophy winner.

Always wondered why you didn't fit in completely with us here.
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I've lost some love for you my friend.

That '72 USC team was a beauty.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/16/2017 9:33:39 PM

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McMurfy, is the new S&C coach a little overzealous? Looks like the Ducks are getting rid of the "soft" label.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/16/2017 9:42:08 PM

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McMurfy, is the new S&C coach a little overzealous? Looks like the Ducks are getting rid of the "soft" label.

Ha,
Yeah the fan base is split, half say good, no more soft,
the others say terrible .

I fall someplace in the middle, but probably not helpful two weeks before signing day.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 2/14/2017 1:04:55 AM

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Meanwhile in Pennsylvania, an apple fell not far from a tree.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/jerry-sanduskys-son-charged-with-child-sex-abuse/ar-AAmTJpg

But please, talk to me again about how classy Penn State is.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 6/7/2017 3:01:30 PM

Steve Lentz

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Bob Stoops retiring effective immediately.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 6/8/2017 3:21:07 PM

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Bob Stoops retiring effective immediately.

Let's all wait for the other shoe to drop.

Scandal?
Cancer?
Cancer Scandal?

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 7/4/2017 9:18:27 PM

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Mike Hlas Retweeted
Andy Greder‏ @andygreder 1h1 hour ago
Note: Illinois defensive lineman flips from #Gophers to #Hawkeyes.

Ouch!

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/2/2017 1:58:51 PM

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I guess Texas believed that Maryland only plays NCAA basketball.

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