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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

I predict Manziel won't throw at the combine. His measurable will be lousy as well, slower than expected 40, less than 6 feet tall, not very strong.
This will drop him to the second or third round.
When he plays, he will outperform the measurables and be a decent QB, but never a team guy.
He will post better numbers than actual playoff wins.

That being said, I would take a chance on him in the third round, but not before that.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Before you even get to the on-field stuff, Manziel comes off in what I've seen and read as a whiny bitch whose act will instantly be threadbare with coaches and teammates. Other kids liked him in college, but his first tantrum will alienate adults, of which the Vikes hopefully have a few. It seems the best scenario for drafting a QB will be to take among those available at 8 or later the QB who has the best arm skills and head as projected 3 years hence and acquire a vet who can man the position in 2014.

And yes, I understand that I accept mediocrity, lack balls, etc. I also live in reality here on Earth.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

I predict Manziel won't throw at the combine. His measurable will be lousy as well, slower than expected 40, less than 6 feet tall, not very strong.
This will drop him to the second or third round.
When he plays, he will outperform the measurables and be a decent QB, but never a team guy.
He will post better numbers than actual playoff wins.

That being said, I would take a chance on him in the third round, but not before that.

There is no way Manziel makes it to the third round.

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

I predict Manziel won't throw at the combine. His measurable will be lousy as well, slower than expected 40, less than 6 feet tall, not very strong.
This will drop him to the second or third round.
When he plays, he will outperform the measurables and be a decent QB, but never a team guy.
He will post better numbers than actual playoff wins.

That being said, I would take a chance on him in the third round, but not before that.

There is no way Manziel makes it to the third round.

Which is why I said second or third round, and never say never....if he measure 5'9 he will.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

I predict Manziel won't throw at the combine. His measurable will be lousy as well, slower than expected 40, less than 6 feet tall, not very strong.
This will drop him to the second or third round.
When he plays, he will outperform the measurables and be a decent QB, but never a team guy.
He will post better numbers than actual playoff wins.

That being said, I would take a chance on him in the third round, but not before that.

There is no way Manziel makes it to the third round.

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

I've seen him listed at 6'1 on many sites. No way!!!!!
I've read he does have big hands though.

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

I've seen him listed at 6'1 on many sites. No way!!!!!
I've read he does have big hands though.

He is 5'10

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Manziel is a massive project and/or coach killer waiting to happen.

He has a lot of highlight real plays but those will be picks in the NFL. He throws it up for grabs all the damn time. He also holds the ball down by his knee in and around the pocket. A coach/team is going to have a lot of work on their hands to get him up to par. That assumes, also, that he survives.

I've said it numerous times. What I love most about his game is what's going to get him decapitated in the NFL. He's absolutely fearless. He runs like RGIII did last year. He takes big shots all the time. If you want to compare his size to Flutie, Wilson, Brees ect....that's fine. Those guys never took the shots he takes. They ran, yes, but they did it "smart". Hell, I've NEVER seen Wilson take a big shot. Dude is annoyingly good at getting down when he needs to.

Welcome to the minority Jesser. Manziel will not even be as good in the NFL as his A&M predecessor.

Biggest bust of the draft, especially if a team is silly enough to draft him in the 1st.

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ORIGINAL: Prescott

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Manziel is a massive project and/or coach killer waiting to happen.

He has a lot of highlight real plays but those will be picks in the NFL. He throws it up for grabs all the damn time. He also holds the ball down by his knee in and around the pocket. A coach/team is going to have a lot of work on their hands to get him up to par. That assumes, also, that he survives.

I've said it numerous times. What I love most about his game is what's going to get him decapitated in the NFL. He's absolutely fearless. He runs like RGIII did last year. He takes big shots all the time. If you want to compare his size to Flutie, Wilson, Brees ect....that's fine. Those guys never took the shots he takes. They ran, yes, but they did it "smart". Hell, I've NEVER seen Wilson take a big shot. Dude is annoyingly good at getting down when he needs to.

Welcome to the minority Jesser. Manziel will not even be as good in the NFL as his A&M predecessor.

Biggest bust of the draft, especially if a team is silly enough to draft him in the 1st.

The 'minority' of us seem to have quite a few members.

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ORIGINAL: DeLain

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

I predict Manziel won't throw at the combine. His measurable will be lousy as well, slower than expected 40, less than 6 feet tall, not very strong.
This will drop him to the second or third round.
When he plays, he will outperform the measurables and be a decent QB, but never a team guy.
He will post better numbers than actual playoff wins.

That being said, I would take a chance on him in the third round, but not before that.

There is no way Manziel makes it to the third round.

"The worst arm in college football". If this isn't hyperbole, then you lost me right there. I'm not a big fan of Teddy Bridgewater (I think he's very overhyped), but I can at least be objective.

Yeah I could see the 4th round. He has "IT" but nothing else. The worst arm in college football. Extremely bad decision making.

The epitomy of a gunslinger only he uses a BB gun because he is only in 5th grade.

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

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ORIGINAL: DeLain

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

I predict Manziel won't throw at the combine. His measurable will be lousy as well, slower than expected 40, less than 6 feet tall, not very strong.
This will drop him to the second or third round.
When he plays, he will outperform the measurables and be a decent QB, but never a team guy.
He will post better numbers than actual playoff wins.

That being said, I would take a chance on him in the third round, but not before that.

There is no way Manziel makes it to the third round.

Yeah I could see the 4th round. He has "IT" but nothing else. The worst arm in college football. Extremely bad decision making.

The epitomy of a gunslinger only he uses a BB gun because he is only in 5th grade.

"The worst arm in college football". If this isn't hyperbole, then you lost me right there. I'm not a big fan of Teddy Bridgewater (I think he's very overhyped), but I can at least be objective.

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

I have no interest in Clowney or Manziel

Too many red flags with Clowney

Manziel is simply to small to play that style of football

I would rather take the QB with the NFL body even if he has to sit a year behind Cassel to work on things and improve

A miniature Brett Favre is not the way to go IMO

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ORIGINAL: Andy Lowe

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

I have no interest in Clowney or Manziel

Too many red flags with Clowney

Manziel is simply to small to play that style of football

I would rather take the QB with the NFL body even if he has to sit a year behind Cassel to work on things and improve

A miniature Brett Favre is not the way to go IMO

He will have to put on some bulk but remember the rules make it really hard to hit QBs all out.

I think he has a much better chance to succeed than say 10 years ago.

For that matter, Bridgewater looks really skinny.

I suspect team will want him to put on some weight.

Manziel will clearly be a polarizing figure, people will either absolutely love him or hate him as a prospect.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Andy Lowe

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

I have no interest in Clowney or Manziel

Too many red flags with Clowney

Manziel is simply to small to play that style of football

I would rather take the QB with the NFL body even if he has to sit a year behind Cassel to work on things and improve

A miniature Brett Favre is not the way to go IMO

He will have to put on some bulk but remember the rules make it really hard to hit QBs all out.

I think he has a much better chance to succeed than say 10 years ago.

For that matter, Bridgewater looks really skinny.

I suspect team will want him to put on some weight.

Manziel will clearly be a polarizing figure, people will either absolutely love him or hate him as a prospect.

He's also very accurate and his teammates love to play with him.

I personally don't see how he makes it out of the Top 15 with all the teams that need a QB.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

So the qb from VaTech blows up a lb on a run, its clean. 2 plays later he gets legally crushed by a different lb, on a very legal hit and its "uneccesary roughness"?

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

So the qb from VaTech blows up a lb on a run, its clean. 2 plays later he gets legally crushed by a different lb, on a very legal hit and its "uneccesary roughness"?

Link?

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