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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:02:23 PM

Ian Joseph

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If Alabama loses, I don't want to hear another pundit talk about SEC football for eight months. If they get rolled, I don't want to hear about them being THE power conference for another three years.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:04:27 PM

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If Alabama loses, I don't want to hear another pundit talk about SEC football for eight months. If they get rolled, I don't want to hear about them being THE power conference for another three years.

I'm with you brother! For such an awesome conference they sure produce some lousy next level qb prospects!

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:06:42 PM

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Ole Miss joins LSU as the latest SEC fraud to expose themselves.
Funny things happen when you don't play SEC and Southeasten Arkansas State.

Miss State will be next.

As I said all along, Alabama good, rest of SEC not really all that.

Murf is a wise one.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:06:46 PM

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There is nobody attending these games. What an embarrassment

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:09:04 PM

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Game isn't over but let's not pretend these sec defenses are any better than any other power conference.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:12:08 PM

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Game isn't over but let's not pretend these sec defenses are any better than any other power conference.

Well they are against lackluster SEC offenses.

Who is the last great NFL QB from the SEC not named Manning?
Newton?
Cutler?

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:12:45 PM

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There is nobody attending these games. What an embarrassment

Who but die hard fans of said teams wants to spend new years eve watching a joke meaningless game?

orange bowl used to have some prestige, now its akin to the dollar general Daisey and Posey bowl...

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:12:55 PM

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Game isn't over but let's not pretend these sec defenses are any better than any other power conference.

Well they are against lackluster SEC offenses.

Who is the last great NFL QB from the SEC not named Manning?
Newton?
Cutler?

Agree murf! I've been saying that for years!

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:13:55 PM

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There is nobody attending these games. What an embarrassment

Who but die hard fans of said teams wants to spend new years eve watching a joke meaningless game?

orange bowl used to have some prestige, now its akin to the dollar general Daisey and Posey bowl...

Bingo! The orange bowl might as well be the go daddy.com bowl.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:16:52 PM

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If Alabama loses, I don't want to hear another pundit talk about SEC football for eight months. If they get rolled, I don't want to hear about them being THE power conference for another three years.

And if they win yet another National Championship?

Good hedge.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:17:39 PM

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I love that all these so called experts thought Mississippi St would roll. Just like LSU. Ole Miss. Etc.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:18:18 PM

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If Alabama loses, I don't want to hear another pundit talk about SEC football for eight months. If they get rolled, I don't want to hear about them being THE power conference for another three years.

And if they win yet another National Championship?

Good hedge.

If they win another championship, so be it. The shine is off the conference. The win would be all about Alabama, not the SEC.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:18:40 PM

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If Alabama loses, I don't want to hear another pundit talk about SEC football for eight months. If they get rolled, I don't want to hear about them being THE power conference for another three years.

And if they win yet another National Championship?

Good hedge.

Most would agree Alabama is legit. Everyone else not so much.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:20:06 PM

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Mississippi St has a high school defense by the looks of it. Good thing they played tons of crappy SEC qbs and offenses.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:22:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph

If Alabama loses, I don't want to hear another pundit talk about SEC football for eight months. If they get rolled, I don't want to hear about them being THE power conference for another three years.

And if they win yet another National Championship?

Good hedge.

If they win another championship, so be it. The shine is off the conference. The win would be all about Alabama, not the SEC.

Bingo! Florida St won a national championship from the crappy ACC of last year.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:24:11 PM

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Game isn't over but let's not pretend these sec defenses are any better than any other power conference.

Well they are against lackluster SEC offenses.

Who is the last great NFL QB from the SEC not named Manning?
Newton?
Cutler?

This is where it gets a little silly.

Which conference is the top QB producer? All else suck?

Hey, Quincy Carter carved himself out a nice back-up (and started one entire season) NFL career, just like Dennis Dixon.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:26:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

Game isn't over but let's not pretend these sec defenses are any better than any other power conference.

Well they are against lackluster SEC offenses.

Who is the last great NFL QB from the SEC not named Manning?
Newton?
Cutler?

This is where it gets a little silly.

Which conference is the top QB producer? All else suck?

Hey, Quincy Carter carved himself out a nice back-up (and started one entire season) NFL career, just like Dennis Dixon.

The lowly big 10 has a better track record with qbs.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:32:21 PM

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If Alabama loses, I don't want to hear another pundit talk about SEC football for eight months. If they get rolled, I don't want to hear about them being THE power conference for another three years.

And if they win yet another National Championship?

Good hedge.

If they win another championship, so be it. The shine is off the conference. The win would be all about Alabama, not the SEC.

This is my point. I hate the conference debates, discussions and pissing matches. Conferences are no longer necessary in major college football. First of all, most people can't even keep track of which conference their Alma Mater is currently in.

Conference loyalty is a thing of the past. There is no loyalty by the schools. Throw enough money at Mizzou and they end up in the SEC.

'Bout time to do away with conferences in college football. Best move CFB could make, for the long term.

You ever see anybody get fightin' mad over AFC v. NFC?

Time to let the team shine.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:32:35 PM

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Man what a terrible fast athletic SEC defense! Here comes a 50 burger.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:33:38 PM

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From Earlier this year

Where current NFL starting QBs played college ball
Conference Number of NFL starters
Quarterbacks

Pac-12 6 Andrew Luck (Stanford), Jake Locker (Washington), Nick Foles (Arizona), Aaron Rodgers (Cal), Carson Palmer (USC), Matt Cassel (USC)

Big Ten 5 Tom Brady (Michigan), Brian Hoyer (Michigan State), Chad Henne (Michigan), Drew Brees (Purdue), Russell Wilson (Wisconsin)

SEC 5 Peyton Manning (Tennessee), Eli Manning (Ole Miss), Jay Cutler (Vanderbilt), Matthew Stafford (Georgia), Cam Newton (Auburn)

ACC 4 E.J. Manuel (Florida State), Matt Schaub (Virginia), Phillip Rivers (North Carolina State), Matt Ryan (Boston College)
Big 12 4 Geno Smith (West Virginia), Robert Griffin III (Baylor), Sam Bradford (Oklahoma), Ryan Tannehill (Texas A&M)
Mountain West 2 Alex Smith (Utah), Andy Dalton (TCU),
CAA 1 Joe Flacco (Delaware)
Ivy 1 Ryan Fitzgerald (Harvard)
MAC 1 Ben Roethlisberger (Miami, OH)
Ohio Valley 1 Tony Romo (Eastern Illinois)
Southland 1 Josh McCown (Sam Houston State)
WAC 1 Colin Kaepernick (Nevada)

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:34:47 PM

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If Alabama loses, I don't want to hear another pundit talk about SEC football for eight months. If they get rolled, I don't want to hear about them being THE power conference for another three years.

And if they win yet another National Championship?

Good hedge.

If they win another championship, so be it. The shine is off the conference. The win would be all about Alabama, not the SEC.

This is my point. I hate the conference debates, discussions and pissing matches. Conferences are no longer necessary in major college football. First of all, most people can't even keep track of which conference their Alma Mater is currently in.

Conference loyalty is a thing of the past. Their is no loyalty by the schools. Throw enough money at Mizzou and they end up in the SEC.

'Bout time to do away with conferences in college football. Best move CFB could make, for the long term.

You ever see anybody get fightin' mad over AFC v. NFC?

Time to let the team shine.

Good post! I think most are tired of hearing every commentator kiss the SEC butt. That's what the reaction is to.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:35:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

Game isn't over but let's not pretend these sec defenses are any better than any other power conference.

Well they are against lackluster SEC offenses.

Who is the last great NFL QB from the SEC not named Manning?
Newton?
Cutler?

This is where it gets a little silly.

Which conference is the top QB producer? All else suck?

Hey, Quincy Carter carved himself out a nice back-up (and started one entire season) NFL career, just like Dennis Dixon.

The lowly big 10 has a better track record with qbs.

Going back how far? What is the criteria?

Right now, you think the Big10 has the best QB representation in the NFL?

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:36:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

Game isn't over but let's not pretend these sec defenses are any better than any other power conference.

Well they are against lackluster SEC offenses.

Who is the last great NFL QB from the SEC not named Manning?
Newton?
Cutler?

This is where it gets a little silly.

Which conference is the top QB producer? All else suck?

Hey, Quincy Carter carved himself out a nice back-up (and started one entire season) NFL career, just like Dennis Dixon.

The lowly big 10 has a better track record with qbs.

Going back how far? What is the criteria?

Right now, you think the Big10 has the best QB representation in the NFL?

No. I just think it's better than the SEC currently.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:39:47 PM

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Dak Prescott is highly over rated. Tebow 2.0?

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:44:13 PM

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From Earlier this year

Where current NFL starting QBs played college ball
Conference Number of NFL starters
Quarterbacks

Pac-12 6 Andrew Luck (Stanford), Jake Locker (Washington), Nick Foles (Arizona), Aaron Rodgers (Cal), Carson Palmer (USC), Matt Cassel (USC)

Big Ten 5 Tom Brady (Michigan), Brian Hoyer (Michigan State), Chad Henne (Michigan), Drew Brees (Purdue), Russell Wilson (Wisconsin)

SEC 5 Peyton Manning (Tennessee), Eli Manning (Ole Miss), Jay Cutler (Vanderbilt), Matthew Stafford (Georgia), Cam Newton (Auburn)

ACC 4 E.J. Manuel (Florida State), Matt Schaub (Virginia), Phillip Rivers (North Carolina State), Matt Ryan (Boston College)
Big 12 4 Geno Smith (West Virginia), Robert Griffin III (Baylor), Sam Bradford (Oklahoma), Ryan Tannehill (Texas A&M)
Mountain West 2 Alex Smith (Utah), Andy Dalton (TCU),
CAA 1 Joe Flacco (Delaware)
Ivy 1 Ryan Fitzgerald (Harvard)
MAC 1 Ben Roethlisberger (Miami, OH)
Ohio Valley 1 Tony Romo (Eastern Illinois)
Southland 1 Josh McCown (Sam Houston State)
WAC 1 Colin Kaepernick (Nevada)

Like the info, somewhat dated and numerous omissions, but my point is that there is no such thing as QBU. Or QB Conference. More today than every before.

Hell, LSU was anti-QBU, then along came Jamarcus Russell.

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