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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:48:01 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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From Earlier this year

Where current NFL starting QBs played college ball
Conference Number of NFL starters
Quarterbacks

Pac-12 6 Andrew Luck (Stanford), Jake Locker (Washington), Nick Foles (Arizona), Aaron Rodgers (Cal), Carson Palmer (USC), Matt Cassel (USC)

Big Ten 5 Tom Brady (Michigan), Brian Hoyer (Michigan State), Chad Henne (Michigan), Drew Brees (Purdue), Russell Wilson (Wisconsin)

SEC 5 Peyton Manning (Tennessee), Eli Manning (Ole Miss), Jay Cutler (Vanderbilt), Matthew Stafford (Georgia), Cam Newton (Auburn)

ACC 4 E.J. Manuel (Florida State), Matt Schaub (Virginia), Phillip Rivers (North Carolina State), Matt Ryan (Boston College)
Big 12 4 Geno Smith (West Virginia), Robert Griffin III (Baylor), Sam Bradford (Oklahoma), Ryan Tannehill (Texas A&M)
Mountain West 2 Alex Smith (Utah), Andy Dalton (TCU),
CAA 1 Joe Flacco (Delaware)
Ivy 1 Ryan Fitzgerald (Harvard)
MAC 1 Ben Roethlisberger (Miami, OH)
Ohio Valley 1 Tony Romo (Eastern Illinois)
Southland 1 Josh McCown (Sam Houston State)
WAC 1 Colin Kaepernick (Nevada)

Like the info, somewhat dated and numerous omissions, but my point is that there is no such thing as QBU. Or QB Conference. More today than every before.

Hell, LSU was anti-QBU, then along came Jamarcus Russell.

You seem sensible to me. I get what you're saying. I wish you could get ESPN and every other sports outlet to see the same thing. I guess they think since SEC fans are more rabid the product must be much better.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:52:17 PM

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I have $20 says there is only one SEC team in the playoffs.

Done. You got yourself a deal, man.

I still maintain probably the best 4 teams in the country are all in the SEC West this year. Craziness. I do think Oregon is better than FSU right now. Maybe TCU and KSU are better too. FSU just has not been impressive at all this year in any game.

4
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:52:57 PM

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Dak Prescott is highly over rated. Tebow 2.0?

Without context, I don't understand.

Tebow was one of the best college football QB's of his era. Not certain Prescott is even as good. Therefore, I don't get the "2.0".

Being the best QB at the collegiate level rarely translates to being the best at the next level.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:54:03 PM

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I have $20 says there is only one SEC team in the playoffs.

Done. You got yourself a deal, man.

I still maintain probably the best 4 teams in the country are all in the SEC West this year. Craziness. I do think Oregon is better than FSU right now. Maybe TCU and KSU are better too. FSU just has not been impressive at all this year in any game.

4
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SEC
West

That's what happens when people are blinded by their allegiances. How embarrassing.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:55:58 PM

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Dak Prescott is highly over rated. Tebow 2.0?

Without context, I don't understand.

Tebow was one of the best college football QB's of his era. Not certain Prescott is even as good. Therefore, I don't get the "2.0".

Being the best QB at the collegiate level rarely translates to being the best at the next level.

He's big and strong like Tebow and frequently misses wide open guys just like Tebow. I think the comparison is fairly easy. Maybe he improves his accuracy next season but he was missing wide open guys all night.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:56:15 PM

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I'm so pleased we finally have an on-field solution that should remove all doubt about who the best team is.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:57:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

Dak Prescott is highly over rated. Tebow 2.0?

Without context, I don't understand.

Tebow was one of the best college football QB's of his era. Not certain Prescott is even as good. Therefore, I don't get the "2.0".

Being the best QB at the collegiate level rarely translates to being the best at the next level.

He's big and strong like Tebow and frequently misses wide open guys just like Tebow. I think the comparison is fairly easy. Maybe he improves his accuracy next season but he was missing wide open guys all night.

I don't get the overrated part.

Was Manziel overrated?

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:58:19 PM

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I'm so pleased we finally have an on-field solution that should remove all doubt about who the best team is.

Agreed!

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 10:59:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

Dak Prescott is highly over rated. Tebow 2.0?

Without context, I don't understand.

Tebow was one of the best college football QB's of his era. Not certain Prescott is even as good. Therefore, I don't get the "2.0".

Being the best QB at the collegiate level rarely translates to being the best at the next level.

He's big and strong like Tebow and frequently misses wide open guys just like Tebow. I think the comparison is fairly easy. Maybe he improves his accuracy next season but he was missing wide open guys all night.

I don't get the overrated part.

Was Manziel overrated?

Manziel? I think the whole SEC proves to be overrated by how easily a joke like manziel carved them up.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 11:01:32 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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The next 100 yard nfl game Manziel has will be his first. He makes Ponder look like an all pro.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 11:01:44 PM

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The best part about yet another SEC loss is not hearing the crowd chant
SEC
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 11:03:18 PM

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The best part about yet another SEC loss is not hearing the crowd chant
SEC
SEC
SEC

kind of shoots down JT2 and his theory that nobody cares what conference they're in. I don't care but those guys in the SEC must.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 11:07:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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The best part about yet another SEC loss is not hearing the crowd chant
SEC
SEC
SEC

kind of shoots down JT2 and his theory that nobody cares what conference they're in. I don't care but those guys in the SEC must.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p6NIDlddJHY

They are winning the Championship Game and they chant their conference?

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 11:07:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

The best part about yet another SEC loss is not hearing the crowd chant
SEC
SEC
SEC

kind of shoots down JT2 and his theory that nobody cares what conference they're in. I don't care but those guys in the SEC must.

My theory is that nobody should care.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 11:10:06 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

The best part about yet another SEC loss is not hearing the crowd chant
SEC
SEC
SEC

kind of shoots down JT2 and his theory that nobody cares what conference they're in. I don't care but those guys in the SEC must.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p6NIDlddJHY

They are winning the Championship Game and they chant their conference?

That's just stupid! I'm glad I'm not from SEC country.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 11:10:22 PM

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The best part about yet another SEC loss is not hearing the crowd chant
SEC
SEC
SEC

kind of shoots down JT2 and his theory that nobody cares what conference they're in. I don't care but those guys in the SEC must.

My theory is that nobody should care.

And I agree with that.
I root for Oregon, that's where I went.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 11:11:10 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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The best part about yet another SEC loss is not hearing the crowd chant
SEC
SEC
SEC

kind of shoots down JT2 and his theory that nobody cares what conference they're in. I don't care but those guys in the SEC must.

My theory is that nobody should care.

Fair enough. But why do they though?

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 11:13:56 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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Ole Miss with 3 losses in the top 10? Yet there's no SEC bias? What a joke.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 11:19:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

The best part about yet another SEC loss is not hearing the crowd chant
SEC
SEC
SEC

kind of shoots down JT2 and his theory that nobody cares what conference they're in. I don't care but those guys in the SEC must.

My theory is that nobody should care.

And I agree with that.
I root for Oregon, that's where I went.

And you should. As a football fan, I absolutely love what they have been doing. Changed the game. Changed how conference rivals recruit.

Not to mention, one of my most very favorite shoes are the Oregon One Foamposites.

I'm very excited about this playoff.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 11:20:39 PM

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Bring on the playoff! I'm pretty pumped too.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/31/2014 11:22:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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The best part about yet another SEC loss is not hearing the crowd chant
SEC
SEC
SEC

kind of shoots down JT2 and his theory that nobody cares what conference they're in. I don't care but those guys in the SEC must.

My theory is that nobody should care.

Fair enough. But why do they though?

I don't know. I'm not a spokesperson for the SEC. I didn't go to a SEC school (none of them recruited me), but I lived in SEC country for a while.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/1/2015 8:42:51 AM

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I'm so pleased we finally have an on-field solution that should remove all doubt about who the best team is.

Agreed!

I'm not sure TCU would agree with you guys today. Who would I take out if they got in? No idea. I think all 4 are deserving but I'm not so sure TCU couldn't beat any one of the final four on a neutral field. They have been damn impressive.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/1/2015 11:09:07 AM

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Ya, I was wrong on the "4 best teams" this year but it's still laughable to think that the SEC isn't the best conference top to bottom. Funny how no mentions were made of the Arkansas game or the Texas A&M game. Or South Carolina. Or Georgia. And I'm sure none will be made if Auburn/Alabama win. The conference still has a very good chance to win the title this year and they had 4 other top 10-15 teams. No conference is close to that.

I also think it's laughable to paint the conference as "Alabama only". Yes, Alabama's been the game's gold standard/dynasty for a while now, but it's not like the conference is lacking in other success. Auburn won a title within the last few years and were also about as close as you could come last year. LSU has won recently. Florida has won recently. What other conference can claim anything even close to that for title contention? How many titles have Stanford, Arizona, or even Oregon won in the last 10 years? How about Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan State? It's a rather weak argument. Though I do agree with Pete that conference shouldn't matter in the end.

And the QB listing shows just how weak some of these arguments are. The QB is looked at as the "weak" position from the SEC in the NFL, and look at that list. The SEC group is about as good as any other conference top to bottom. While no conference is dominant. Matt Cassell? Really? Now go do the same thing for defensive stars in the NFL, at just about any position.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/1/2015 11:09:48 AM

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I'm so pleased we finally have an on-field solution that should remove all doubt about who the best team is.

Should, yes. Though it'll be a lot better when we add a round and knock off a couple weeks from the layoff time IMO.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/1/2015 11:18:38 AM

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I'm so pleased we finally have an on-field solution that should remove all doubt about who the best team is.

Should, yes. Though it'll be a lot better when we add a round and knock off a couple weeks from the layoff time IMO.

I think everyone should agree with this. An 8 team playoff would be perfect. As long as they didn't put 5 SEC teams in it every year.

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