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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 10:31:26 AM

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I missed the part where someone got hurt.
Except their butt maybe.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 10:51:56 AM

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You reap what you sow
That applies to Manfred
And the Asterisks

I was sad to hear Roy Boy defending the suspension on the Twins broadcast.

Agreed
I cringed
One of the few times he took the easy route

The suspension wasn't long enough. It's never OK to throw a hard object at another human being and this psychopath macho man went for his head. Fuk the baseball tradition. Throwing at players has to stop.

He didn’t throw at anyone. Nobody got hit. What he did was give them something to think about and make them feel uncomfortable at the plate. That is a pitcher’s job. Poor babies couldn’t handle it.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 11:50:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

You reap what you sow
That applies to Manfred
And the Asterisks

I was sad to hear Roy Boy defending the suspension on the Twins broadcast.

Agreed
I cringed
One of the few times he took the easy route

The suspension wasn't long enough. It's never OK to throw a hard object at another human being and this psychopath macho man went for his head. Fuk the baseball tradition. Throwing at players has to stop.

He didn’t throw at anyone. Nobody got hit. What he did was give them something to think about and make them feel uncomfortable at the plate. That is a pitcher’s job. Poor babies couldn’t handle it.

Bullshit. He threw at him. So what if nobody got hit. This manly/macho tradition of throwing at your competitors (which is actually cowardice) has been allowed to exist for far too long. It should be prosecuted just the same as if it had happened on the streets.

< Message edited by kgdabom -- 7/30/2020 11:55:34 AM >

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 11:53:05 AM

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I missed the part where someone got hurt.
Except their butt maybe.

To you it's OK because he missed. What if he hadn't missed. Is it OK with you if Bregman had been killed so a message could be sent. What about not killed just maimed. Would that make it OK. It's not OK. It's assault with a deadly weapon.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 12:20:22 PM

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I missed the part where someone got hurt.
Except their butt maybe.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 12:33:43 PM

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I missed the part where someone got hurt.
Except their butt maybe.

Whatever. You be all manly and macho while defending cowardice and criminal behavior. You know I'm right.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 12:37:21 PM

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Since this will go on and on forever with no real end …
(except more moral lectures) ...
Here's my last thought (to you) on it

Yes, throwing at a batter’s head is incredibly dangerous. It’s also worth noting, though, that there’s a small but definitive danger to a pitcher serving up a fastball to a batter who knows what’s coming. You need only look back to July 4, when the Yankees’ Giancarlo Stanton snapped a liner off the head of teammate Masahiro Tanaka in an intrasquad game. Tanaka ended up being OK, but it took him two weeks to face live batters again. Even now, the sight of him collapsing to the mound in a heap after getting drilled is one every baseball fan dreads.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 12:41:23 PM

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Still, you know the best way MLB could have avoided this kind of Wild West scenario? If it had brought the hammer down on individual Astros, or at least attempted to do so, before opposing pitchers ever began warming up. The opportunity was there, but MLB let it pass through a combination of offered immunity and unwillingness to challenge the players’ union over punishment. So now, the pitchers have the ball … and you never know where it might end up.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 12:43:29 PM

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Let's all just hold hands, sing a campfire song, and forgive those poor Astros for cheating their way to a title, with ZERO consequences to the players who participated in it.

That's what we're all about. forgive. forget. Be nice to each other.

No thanks. They tainted baseball like no other. Cheating then off the hook by an idiot commissioner who only took it out on executives of a team because he needed the players to snitch vs lying through their teeth.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 12:45:26 PM

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And the SAWX are equally as bad. They've gotten off the hook too.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 12:59:29 PM

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And the Skankeroos.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 1:04:55 PM

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Let's all just hold hands, sing a campfire song, and forgive those poor Astros for cheating their way to a title, with ZERO consequences to the players who participated in it.

That's what we're all about. forgive. forget. Be nice to each other.

No thanks. They tainted baseball like no other. Cheating then off the hook by an idiot commissioner who only took it out on executives of a team because he needed the players to snitch vs lying through their teeth.

The consequences shouldn't include being subject to assault with a deadly weapon. Plea deals are arranged in criminal court all the time. Immunity to the underlings who rat out the boss is commonplace. What was done in baseball is no different than what goes on in criminal court.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 1:05:43 PM

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And the Skankeroos.

Don't you mean the Skankees?

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 1:11:57 PM

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Ball in Philly is off

The Philadelphia Phillies have canceled all activities at Citizens Bank Park, including a weekend series against the Blue Jays, after a member of the coaching staff and a member of the home clubhouse staff tested positive for the coronavirus, the team announced Thursday.

The Phillies said no players have tested positive.

They should have added

so far

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 1:13:01 PM

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And my apologies to the more self righteous posters in here, but I just can't bring myself to get worked up about the abuse the Astros players are taking. It's not criminal behavior as there are no statutes in the law governing bean balls in baseball. Can't really say that it is cowardly, since history has shown batters who have been intentionally beaned have shown a propensity to charge the mound. The pitcher knows this.

Backing a hitter off the plate, beaning him, knocking him down, brushing back, low bridging, etc., for any number of reasons has been part of the game since its inception.

It's baseball.

Play ball.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 1:15:56 PM

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And my apologies to the more self righteous posters in here, but I just can't bring myself to get worked up about the abuse the Astros players are taking. It's not criminal behavior as there are no statutes in the law governing bean balls in baseball. Can't really say that it is cowardly, since history has shown batters who have been intentionally beaned have shown a propensity to charge the mound. The pitcher knows this.

Backing a hitter off the plate, beaning him, knocking him down, brushing back, low bridging, etc., for any number of reasons has been part of the game since its inception.

It's baseball.

Play ball.

Maybe we can start prosecuting NFL players when they injure someone?

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 1:21:27 PM

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And my apologies to the more self righteous posters in here, but I just can't bring myself to get worked up about the abuse the Astros players are taking. It's not criminal behavior as there are no statutes in the law governing bean balls in baseball. Can't really say that it is cowardly, since history has shown batters who have been intentionally beaned have shown a propensity to charge the mound. The pitcher knows this.

Backing a hitter off the plate, beaning him, knocking him down, brushing back, low bridging, etc., for any number of reasons has been part of the game since its inception.

It's baseball.

Play ball.

Maybe we can start prosecuting NFL players when they injure someone?

It's coming.

Civil lawsuits for concussions/permanent injuries caused by a player's hit.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 1:40:37 PM

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And my apologies to the more self righteous posters in here, but I just can't bring myself to get worked up about the abuse the Astros players are taking. It's not criminal behavior as there are no statutes in the law governing bean balls in baseball. Can't really say that it is cowardly, since history has shown batters who have been intentionally beaned have shown a propensity to charge the mound. The pitcher knows this.

Backing a hitter off the plate, beaning him, knocking him down, brushing back, low bridging, etc., for any number of reasons has been part of the game since its inception.

It's baseball.

Play ball.

Intentionally throwing at the batter is a part of baseball that can be fixed. It's a part of baseball that should be fixed. It is criminal behavior. The statute is assault with a deadly weapon. Just apply the same penalties as doing it anywhere else.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 1:43:32 PM

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And my apologies to the more self righteous posters in here, but I just can't bring myself to get worked up about the abuse the Astros players are taking. It's not criminal behavior as there are no statutes in the law governing bean balls in baseball. Can't really say that it is cowardly, since history has shown batters who have been intentionally beaned have shown a propensity to charge the mound. The pitcher knows this.

Backing a hitter off the plate, beaning him, knocking him down, brushing back, low bridging, etc., for any number of reasons has been part of the game since its inception.

It's baseball.

Play ball.

Maybe we can start prosecuting NFL players when they injure someone?

Not if the injury happens within the rules of the game. If Myles Garrett had significantly injured Mason Rudolph last year by clubbing him with a helmet I would have had no problem with him being prosecuted for that despite the fact that Mason was being a dick and kind of asking for it.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 1:44:40 PM

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Some days you just let it write itself …….

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 1:45:52 PM

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Some days you just let it write itself …….

Must...not...go....there.....

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 1:47:11 PM

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Some days you just let it write itself …….

I just don't get why people continue to bang their heads against this particular wall.

We all know the famous quote about insanity...

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 1:55:23 PM

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Some days you just let it write itself …….

Almost as good as Ricky J's "Can't wait to see what a body of a 70 year old feels like."

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 4:30:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

You reap what you sow
That applies to Manfred
And the Asterisks

I was sad to hear Roy Boy defending the suspension on the Twins broadcast.

Agreed
I cringed
One of the few times he took the easy route

The suspension wasn't long enough. It's never OK to throw a hard object at another human being and this psychopath macho man went for his head. Fuk the baseball tradition. Throwing at players has to stop.

He didn’t throw at anyone. Nobody got hit. What he did was give them something to think about and make them feel uncomfortable at the plate. That is a pitcher’s job. Poor babies couldn’t handle it.

Bullshit. He threw at him. So what if nobody got hit. This manly/macho tradition of throwing at your competitors (which is actually cowardice) has been allowed to exist for far too long. It should be prosecuted just the same as if it had happened on the streets.

Nope. He threw behind the batter’s head. If he wanted to plunk him in the head he surely could have. Throwing behind the head is a scare tactic. It’s a message. Because it gives the batter that same feeling of terror that a fastball is coming at him.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/30/2020 6:22:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

You reap what you sow
That applies to Manfred
And the Asterisks

I was sad to hear Roy Boy defending the suspension on the Twins broadcast.

Agreed
I cringed
One of the few times he took the easy route

The suspension wasn't long enough. It's never OK to throw a hard object at another human being and this psychopath macho man went for his head. Fuk the baseball tradition. Throwing at players has to stop.

He didn’t throw at anyone. Nobody got hit. What he did was give them something to think about and make them feel uncomfortable at the plate. That is a pitcher’s job. Poor babies couldn’t handle it.

Bullshit. He threw at him. So what if nobody got hit. This manly/macho tradition of throwing at your competitors (which is actually cowardice) has been allowed to exist for far too long. It should be prosecuted just the same as if it had happened on the streets.

Nope. He threw behind the batter’s head. If he wanted to plunk him in the head he surely could have. Throwing behind the head is a scare tactic. It’s a message. Because it gives the batter that same feeling of terror that a fastball is coming at him.

Even if you're right it's an asshole move. If he has a problem with the batter then go after him with his fists.

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