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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Just a terrible weekend of football. Both locals laid an absolute egg and didn't even show up. Wow.

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

I heard the Bills are +1500. Almost unheard of in the NFL. Anything can happen in the NFL. A good value bet would be $100 on the Bills to win today. I would make that bet just for fun if I was in Vegas

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

The Kyle Rudolph comments are concerning. In other words, the Vikings don't seem to care some weeks.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Something is going to give here soon. This isn't a fluke. I don't know what but something happened in that NO game. The defense went from top 5 to bottom 5 at that halftime and it looks like it's in their heads.

Yesterday Ivory would get hit at the line head on and still mow through 4 guys to pick 4-7 yards. It was EVERY time. Kendricks is nowhere to be found, Barr is and it's ugly as hell. No way should Hughes be out there. He looks like he doesn't even understand the playbook yet.

I'm not even starting on the OLine. I knew they would be terrible. Same with ST's (even though I didn't think this terrible). The D is the one I can't figure out. It's not 3 yards and a cloud of dust stuff. There are massive plays being given up. Even in the SF game. Sure, we had a bunch of TO's and that was awesome, but the middle of the field and the flats were wide open all game long.

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Something is going to give here soon. This isn't a fluke. I don't know what but something happened in that NO game. The defense went from top 5 to bottom 5 at that halftime and it looks like it's in their heads.

Yesterday Ivory would get hit at the line head on and still mow through 4 guys to pick 4-7 yards. It was EVERY time. Kendricks is nowhere to be found, Barr is and it's ugly as hell. No way should Hughes be out there. He looks like he doesn't even understand the playbook yet.

I'm not even starting on the OLine. I knew they would be terrible. Same with ST's (even though I didn't think this terrible). The D is the one I can't figure out. It's not 3 yards and a cloud of dust stuff. There are massive plays being given up. Even in the SF game. Sure, we had a bunch of TO's and that was awesome, but the middle of the field and the flats were wide open all game long.

There are players lost out there. No clue where they're supposed to be. No clue on audible calls

That's on the coaches.

Huff and Gruff Head coach needs to stop reading the press clippings, too.

They are not a good football team right now.

Rams
Eagles

Lined up to kick their asses next 2 games.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Something is going to give here soon. This isn't a fluke. I don't know what but something happened in that NO game. The defense went from top 5 to bottom 5 at that halftime and it looks like it's in their heads.

Yesterday Ivory would get hit at the line head on and still mow through 4 guys to pick 4-7 yards. It was EVERY time. Kendricks is nowhere to be found, Barr is and it's ugly as hell. No way should Hughes be out there. He looks like he doesn't even understand the playbook yet.

I'm not even starting on the OLine. I knew they would be terrible. Same with ST's (even though I didn't think this terrible). The D is the one I can't figure out. It's not 3 yards and a cloud of dust stuff. There are massive plays being given up. Even in the SF game. Sure, we had a bunch of TO's and that was awesome, but the middle of the field and the flats were wide open all game long.

There are players lost out there. No clue where they're supposed to be. No clue on audible calls

That's on the coaches.

Huff and Gruff Head coach needs to stop reading the press clippings, too.

They are not a good football team right now.

Rams
Eagles

Lined up to kick their asses next 2 games.

The bottom line is that yesterday a team that hasn't won anything was so arrogant that they thought that all they had to do was show up and they would win. I have rarely seen a team, so thoroughly unprepared to play football. There was not one unit or even one individual that looked focused and ready.
Joseph stupidity begat Barr getting posterized begat a Barr personal foul begat Hughes trying to run out a kickoff to the endzone begat personal foul on return attempt begat horseshit oline play begat a Cousins fumble. And then it got bad after that.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Something is going to give here soon. This isn't a fluke. I don't know what but something happened in that NO game. The defense went from top 5 to bottom 5 at that halftime and it looks like it's in their heads.

Yesterday Ivory would get hit at the line head on and still mow through 4 guys to pick 4-7 yards. It was EVERY time. Kendricks is nowhere to be found, Barr is and it's ugly as hell. No way should Hughes be out there. He looks like he doesn't even understand the playbook yet.

I'm not even starting on the OLine. I knew they would be terrible. Same with ST's (even though I didn't think this terrible). The D is the one I can't figure out. It's not 3 yards and a cloud of dust stuff. There are massive plays being given up. Even in the SF game. Sure, we had a bunch of TO's and that was awesome, but the middle of the field and the flats were wide open all game long.

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Something is going to give here soon. This isn't a fluke. I don't know what but something happened in that NO game. The defense went from top 5 to bottom 5 at that halftime and it looks like it's in their heads.

Yesterday Ivory would get hit at the line head on and still mow through 4 guys to pick 4-7 yards. It was EVERY time. Kendricks is nowhere to be found, Barr is and it's ugly as hell. No way should Hughes be out there. He looks like he doesn't even understand the playbook yet.

I'm not even starting on the OLine. I knew they would be terrible. Same with ST's (even though I didn't think this terrible). The D is the one I can't figure out. It's not 3 yards and a cloud of dust stuff. There are massive plays being given up. Even in the SF game. Sure, we had a bunch of TO's and that was awesome, but the middle of the field and the flats were wide open all game long.

There are players lost out there. No clue where they're supposed to be. No clue on audible calls

That's on the coaches.

Huff and Gruff Head coach needs to stop reading the press clippings, too.

They are not a good football team right now.

Rams
Eagles

Lined up to kick their asses next 2 games.

The bottom line is that yesterday a team that hasn't won anything was so arrogant that they thought that all they had to do was show up and they would win. I have rarely seen a team, so thoroughly unprepared to play football. There was not one unit or even one individual that looked focused and ready.
Joseph stupidity begat Barr getting posterized begat a Barr personal foul begat Hughes trying to run out a kickoff to the endzone begat personal foul on return attempt begat horseshit oline play begat a Cousins fumble. And then it got bad after that.

I heard you had never been so disgusted.

Sports, sports, sports, I guess your whole world is sports. Sad, really.

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Something is going to give here soon. This isn't a fluke. I don't know what but something happened in that NO game. The defense went from top 5 to bottom 5 at that halftime and it looks like it's in their heads.

Yesterday Ivory would get hit at the line head on and still mow through 4 guys to pick 4-7 yards. It was EVERY time. Kendricks is nowhere to be found, Barr is and it's ugly as hell. No way should Hughes be out there. He looks like he doesn't even understand the playbook yet.

I'm not even starting on the OLine. I knew they would be terrible. Same with ST's (even though I didn't think this terrible). The D is the one I can't figure out. It's not 3 yards and a cloud of dust stuff. There are massive plays being given up. Even in the SF game. Sure, we had a bunch of TO's and that was awesome, but the middle of the field and the flats were wide open all game long.

Perfectly said, all of you guys.
Getting GASHED on defense
Never thought I'd see that
This stretch, since that NO game ... is as bad as we have ever seen defensively.
And we just keep hoping the guru straightens it out
All we had yesterday was the pride inside Smith and Sendejo. That's all we had left on D.
Those two were all over the place or it would have been worse.

Can't agree more on the needed OVERALL criticism.
I get that the QB is the first to see flak, but jeezus.
I focused on the Oline until I couldn't watch anymore.
Not sure I've ever seen a unit so thoroughly overmatched. It was embarrassing. They could not even SLOW the rush down once the Bills knew we were in panic mode. Could not even get in the way.
And like you guys ... not meaning to single out any unit or guy. Because they were all awful.
I have been building statues for Thielen since Day One, and even he had at least 4-5 balls that he dropped and they just KILLED any hopes we had of getting our shit straight. Same with Diggs.
You know its bad when Treadwell was probably the most consistent performer.

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ORIGINAL: MDK

I remember hearing something about the Steelers coached by Chuck Noll when they won the four super bowls. The team, over a 6 or 8 year period, went 50-3 against teams that had losing records.

They did not, did not lose to inferior teams. That means they never took their opponent for granted.

Perhaps the Vikings could learn something from that team.

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

The season got a bit weirder


Minnesota Vikings defensive end Everson Griffen reportedly threatened to shoot up a hotel and then broke into a teammate’s home during the weekend, a pair of incidents that led to his brief detention and a hospital evaluation.
Griffen, a three-time Pro Bowler, made threats about “shooting up” the Hotel Ivy in Minneapolis on Saturday, law enforcement sources told FOX9. Griffen was seen pacing around the lobby of the hotel and a dispatcher said the suspect warned he would shoot someone if staff didn’t let him into his room, KSTP-TV reported.

Griffen agreed to leave the hotel after police arrived and no weapon was ever brandished, according to multiple reports.

The 30-year-old Vikings star was later detained for allegedly breaking into a teammate’s home, according to FOX9. It was unclear which teammate was the alleged victim. Griffen was taken to the hospital for an evaluation.
“We are aware of the situation involving Everson Griffen and certainly concerned by what we have heard,” Vikings general manager Rick Spielman said in a statement. “We are currently focused on Everson’s well-being and providing the appropriate support for him and his family.”
Griffen was set to miss Sunday’s game against the Buffalo Bills with an injury, but was presumably supposed to join his teammates on the sideline.
It’s unclear whether Griffen will face any discipline.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Win the next two and the Bills game doesn't really matter.

Lose the next two and IMO Speilman should be fired after the season is over, that likely puts Zim on the clock for 2019.

A split, and they are one of a dozen teams trying to make playoffs.