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Brad:

Any analysis of T/G Vera Tucker from USC?

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Brad:

Any analysis of T/G Vera Tucker from USC?

The problem with these PAC XX players and Big 12 conferences is they don't play any defense,

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Brad:

Any analysis of T/G Vera Tucker from USC?

Best thing since sliced bread I'm sure, if he's PAC XX.

The problem with these PAC XX players and Big 12 conferences is they don't play any defense, so you don't know how those offensive players who look great collegiately will translate in the pro's. There are many examples, but Dru Samia is one that currently hurts.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Brad:

Any analysis of T/G Vera Tucker from USC?

Best thing since sliced bread I'm sure, if he's PAC XX.

The problem with these PAC XX players and Big 12 conferences is they don't play any defense, so you don't know how those offensive players who look great collegiately will translate in the pro's. There are many examples, but Dru Samia is one that currently hurts.

Samia went to Oklahoma, which is Big XX. Your point is most germane when it comes to offensive skill players who get ballyhooed playing against mostly bad defenses. Defensive players who stand out tend to be very good, though, as Brad pointed out.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Brad:

Any analysis of T/G Vera Tucker from USC?

Best thing since sliced bread I'm sure, if he's PAC XX.

The problem with these PAC XX players and Big 12 conferences is they don't play any defense, so you don't know how those offensive players who look great collegiately will translate in the pro's. There are many examples, but Dru Samia is one that currently hurts.

Samia went to Oklahoma, which is Big XX. Your point is most germane when it comes to offensive skill players who get ballyhooed playing against mostly bad defenses. Defensive players who stand out tend to be very good, though, as Brad pointed out.

Aaron Rodgers (Pac 12) seems to have done pretty well for himself. Patrick Mahomes was Big 12. Rob Gronkowski (Pac 12). Keenan Allen (Pac 12). Justin Herbert (Pac 12). Zach Ertz (Pas 12). Christian McCaffrey (Pac 12). Tyler Lockett (Big 12). Some of the elite weapons in the league.

Almost 1/3rd of the starting quarterbacks in the league right now played at Pac 12 or Big 12 schools. The six from the SEC; Matthew Stafford (inconsistent), Drew Lock (awful), Tua (unproven), Cam Newton (old), Brandon Allen (career backup). Ryan Tannehill (decent player). Joe Burrow should be good when he gets healthy.

The two rookie wide receivers from Alabama this season are major disappointments. Jerry Jeudy and Henry Ruggs can't catch a cold.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Brad:

Any analysis of T/G Vera Tucker from USC?

Best thing since sliced bread I'm sure, if he's PAC XX.

The problem with these PAC XX players and Big 12 conferences is they don't play any defense, so you don't know how those offensive players who look great collegiately will translate in the pro's. There are many examples, but Dru Samia is one that currently hurts.

Samia went to Oklahoma, which is Big XX. Your point is most germane when it comes to offensive skill players who get ballyhooed playing against mostly bad defenses. Defensive players who stand out tend to be very good, though, as Brad pointed out.

Aaron Rodgers (Pac 12) seems to have done pretty well for himself. Patrick Mahomes was Big 12. Rob Gronkowski (Pac 12). Keenan Allen (Pac 12). Justin Herbert (Pac 12). Zach Ertz (Pas 12). Christian McCaffrey (Pac 12). Tyler Lockett (Big 12). Some of the elite weapons in the league.

Almost 1/3rd of the starting quarterbacks in the league right now played at Pac 12 or Big 12 schools. The six from the SEC; Matthew Stafford (inconsistent), Drew Lock (awful), Tua (unproven), Cam Newton (old), Brandon Allen (career backup). Ryan Tannehill (decent player). Joe Burrow should be good when he gets healthy.

The two rookie wide receivers from Alabama this season are major disappointments. Jerry Jeudy and Henry Ruggs can't catch a cold.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Brad:

Any analysis of T/G Vera Tucker from USC?

Best thing since sliced bread I'm sure, if he's PAC XX.

The problem with these PAC XX players and Big 12 conferences is they don't play any defense, so you don't know how those offensive players who look great collegiately will translate in the pro's. There are many examples, but Dru Samia is one that currently hurts.

Samia went to Oklahoma, which is Big XX. Your point is most germane when it comes to offensive skill players who get ballyhooed playing against mostly bad defenses. Defensive players who stand out tend to be very good, though, as Brad pointed out.

Aaron Rodgers (Pac 12) seems to have done pretty well for himself. Patrick Mahomes was Big 12. Rob Gronkowski (Pac 12). Keenan Allen (Pac 12). Justin Herbert (Pac 12). Zach Ertz (Pas 12). Christian McCaffrey (Pac 12). Tyler Lockett (Big 12). Some of the elite weapons in the league.

Almost 1/3rd of the starting quarterbacks in the league right now played at Pac 12 or Big 12 schools. The six from the SEC; Matthew Stafford (inconsistent), Drew Lock (awful), Tua (unproven), Cam Newton (old), Brandon Allen (career backup). Ryan Tannehill (decent player). Joe Burrow should be good when he gets healthy.

The two rookie wide receivers from Alabama this season are major disappointments. Jerry Jeudy and Henry Ruggs can't catch a cold.

Anything on Vera Tucker?

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Brad:

Any analysis of T/G Vera Tucker from USC?

Best thing since sliced bread I'm sure, if he's PAC XX.

The problem with these PAC XX players and Big 12 conferences is they don't play any defense, so you don't know how those offensive players who look great collegiately will translate in the pro's. There are many examples, but Dru Samia is one that currently hurts.

Samia went to Oklahoma, which is Big XX. Your point is most germane when it comes to offensive skill players who get ballyhooed playing against mostly bad defenses. Defensive players who stand out tend to be very good, though, as Brad pointed out.

Aaron Rodgers (Pac 12) seems to have done pretty well for himself. Patrick Mahomes was Big 12. Rob Gronkowski (Pac 12). Keenan Allen (Pac 12). Justin Herbert (Pac 12). Zach Ertz (Pas 12). Christian McCaffrey (Pac 12). Tyler Lockett (Big 12). Some of the elite weapons in the league.

Almost 1/3rd of the starting quarterbacks in the league right now played at Pac 12 or Big 12 schools. The six from the SEC; Matthew Stafford (inconsistent), Drew Lock (awful), Tua (unproven), Cam Newton (old), Brandon Allen (career backup). Ryan Tannehill (decent player). Joe Burrow should be good when he gets healthy.

The two rookie wide receivers from Alabama this season are major disappointments. Jerry Jeudy and Henry Ruggs can't catch a cold.

There's plenty of good players, no doubt. But there have also been loads (more than the good?) who have dramatically underperformed their can't-miss projections. Happens in every conference, but I have learned over the years that what seem to be elite offensive skill players from the Pac 12 and the Big 12/10 need extra scrutiny/skepticism.

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Assuming we don't go QBotF, my 1st 3 picks or DL, G, S assuming value is there for those positions. We need to increase pass rush weather a DE or DT, take the best available with the 1st pick.

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Cousins has a terrible contract to be sure, but he's far from the only one. There are multiple bad contracts killing this team.

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Without a doubt Cousins is grossly over paid. But there were several other moves that have not helped either.

-Asking Rudy to take a pay cut. Instead Rudy walks away with a multi year ext. Nice neg tactics...This after investing a 2nd rder to replace him. The only concession is that it freed up some money now but it still has to be paid.

-Re-signing Barr to like 14ml per. Again freed up money this year but it has to be paid.

-Ext Cousins so we could free up 10ml now but all but crippling our cap the next two seasons.

-Also moved some money around on kendricks contract to free up money now but has to be paid later.

-Reiff was the only move that panned out. But could have been disasterous on the field had he left.

Basically Spielman has been kicking the can down the road the last couple off seasons in an effort to win now when clearly the team needed to be purged and rebuilt. In the end it's the Wilf Bros ultimately responsible for this salary cap mess. Spielman is pulling the strings but he is simply in job preservation mode and will continue to make more crippling moves that are going to set this franchise back for the next regime. Wilf's had an out but blew it and are now married to Spielman's desperate ways unless their willing to eat Spiel's and Zim's extensions.