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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/4/2021 5:30:12 PM   
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Fans should be outraged but it actually spurs MORE fan interest in their quest for the mysterious 'spirit of competition'. Yet nary a peep that the NFL rules even allow a 7-9 team to be in the playoffs. Or damn near half make the playoffs. Spirit of competition, elusive you are.

Ah, the masses... so gullible.
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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/4/2021 6:15:39 PM   
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Fans should be outraged but it actually spurs MORE fan interest in their quest for the mysterious 'spirit of competition'. Yet nary a peep that the NFL rules even allow a 7-9 team to be in the playoffs. Or damn near half make the playoffs. Spirit of competition, elusive you are.

Ah, the masses... so gullible.

The record has nothing to do with it. Those are the rules that have governed the game for decades. One or two of those teams that made the playoffs went on to win their first playoff game.

On that note, Wentz came out today and said he is going to ask for a trade. After the debacle on Sunday night, don't be surprised if there is a mass exodus of veterans in Philly. Jalen Mills, Nickell Robey-Coleman and Vinny Curry are all unrestricted free agents. See how many of those guys re-sign.

The players put their bodies and lives on the line every day in practice and in the off-season, working out for an opportunity to win. When the coach opts to make ridiculous decisions that don't afford them that opportunity, there is bound to be a backlash. You could see it on their faces on the sidelines. I guarantee you the GM's phone was ringing off the hook over the past 12 hours.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/4/2021 6:34:43 PM   
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Fans should be outraged but it actually spurs MORE fan interest in their quest for the mysterious 'spirit of competition'. Yet nary a peep that the NFL rules even allow a 7-9 team to be in the playoffs. Or damn near half make the playoffs. Spirit of competition, elusive you are.

Ah, the masses... so gullible.

The record has nothing to do with it. Those are the rules that have governed the game for decades. One or two of those teams that made the playoffs went on to win their first playoff game.

On that note, Wentz came out today and said he is going to ask for a trade. After the debacle on Sunday night, don't be surprised if there is a mass exodus of veterans in Philly.

The players put their bodies and lives on the line every day in practice and in the off-season, working out for an opportunity to win. When the coach opts to make ridiculous decisions that don't afford them that opportunity, there is bound to be a backlash. You could see it on their faces on the sidelines. I guarantee you the GM's phone was ringing off the hook over the past 12 hours.


The Wentz request was the worst kept secret in sports. Stolen opportunities spiraling towards 4-11-1? Really?

If you think winning is paramount sitting at .300 during the pre-game breakfast and above the business aspect of it, then there isn't anything to say.

Rah, rah, go team.
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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/4/2021 6:55:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Fans should be outraged but it actually spurs MORE fan interest in their quest for the mysterious 'spirit of competition'. Yet nary a peep that the NFL rules even allow a 7-9 team to be in the playoffs. Or damn near half make the playoffs. Spirit of competition, elusive you are.

Ah, the masses... so gullible.

The record has nothing to do with it. Those are the rules that have governed the game for decades. One or two of those teams that made the playoffs went on to win their first playoff game.

On that note, Wentz came out today and said he is going to ask for a trade. After the debacle on Sunday night, don't be surprised if there is a mass exodus of veterans in Philly.

The players put their bodies and lives on the line every day in practice and in the off-season, working out for an opportunity to win. When the coach opts to make ridiculous decisions that don't afford them that opportunity, there is bound to be a backlash. You could see it on their faces on the sidelines. I guarantee you the GM's phone was ringing off the hook over the past 12 hours.


The Wentz request was the worst kept secret in sports. Stolen opportunities spiraling towards 4-11-1? Really?

If you think winning is paramount sitting at .300 during the pre-game breakfast and above the business aspect of it, then there isn't anything to say.

Rah, rah, go team.

I have no sympathy for the Eagles. I have no sympathy for the Giants. I have an issue with a coach cashing out his chips before the end of the card game. It's unethical, at-best. They can say what they want about Adam Gase, but he had his guys playing hard until the bitter end. I'd hire him in some capacity over Pederson at this point.

< Message edited by Brad H -- 1/4/2021 6:57:08 PM >


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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/4/2021 10:06:07 PM   
Bill Johanesen


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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Fans should be outraged but it actually spurs MORE fan interest in their quest for the mysterious 'spirit of competition'. Yet nary a peep that the NFL rules even allow a 7-9 team to be in the playoffs. Or damn near half make the playoffs. Spirit of competition, elusive you are.

Ah, the masses... so gullible.

The record has nothing to do with it. Those are the rules that have governed the game for decades. One or two of those teams that made the playoffs went on to win their first playoff game.

On that note, Wentz came out today and said he is going to ask for a trade. After the debacle on Sunday night, don't be surprised if there is a mass exodus of veterans in Philly.

The players put their bodies and lives on the line every day in practice and in the off-season, working out for an opportunity to win. When the coach opts to make ridiculous decisions that don't afford them that opportunity, there is bound to be a backlash. You could see it on their faces on the sidelines. I guarantee you the GM's phone was ringing off the hook over the past 12 hours.


The Wentz request was the worst kept secret in sports. Stolen opportunities spiraling towards 4-11-1? Really?

If you think winning is paramount sitting at .300 during the pre-game breakfast and above the business aspect of it, then there isn't anything to say.

Rah, rah, go team.

I have no sympathy for the Eagles. I have no sympathy for the Giants. I have an issue with a coach cashing out his chips before the end of the card game. It's unethical, at-best. They can say what they want about Adam Gase, but he had his guys playing hard until the bitter end. I'd hire him in some capacity over Pederson at this point.


The NFC East is an embarrassment. I'm glad there is controversy in Philly, glad Wentz wants out.

But the Eagles get the 6th pick instead of the 9th, a good bit of draft capital, which sucks. And when the Eagles are on the clock multitudes of their deplorable fans will be cheering, which also sucks. Too bad the Vikings couldn't have jumped 3 slots if they had lost their meaningless game.
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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/4/2021 10:18:18 PM   
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Wentz trying to save face after his disastrous performance this season.

I saw it mentioned in here, interest in Wentz, why? He's worse than Cousins.

Wentz is the biggest reason the Eagles couldn't win the worst division in modern day NFL.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 7:13:44 AM   
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Wentz trying to save face after his disastrous performance this season.

I saw it mentioned in here, interest in Wentz, why? He's worse than Cousins.

Wentz is the biggest reason the Eagles couldn't win the worst division in modern day NFL.

And Hurts was a reason they still had a chance with two weeks left. He was also the reason they still had a chance to win on Sunday with 18 minutes left in the game. Once he came out, they had no chance. Pederson's spin that they he was doing what was best for winning the game is complete nonsense. It was a lie, and I don't like being blatantly lied to.

The follow up question from the reporters should have been; In retrospect, do you still feel Nate Sudfeld gave you the best chance to win?

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 8:13:14 AM   
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The last 10 Super Bowl winners first pick in the previous draft. Is tanking viable?

Chiefs 2019 - #56
Patriots 2018 - #23
Eagles 2017 - #14
Patriots 2016 - #60
Broncos 2015 - #23
Patriots 2014 - #29
Seahawks 2013 - #62
Ravens 2012 - #35
Giants 2011 - #19
Colts 2010 - #31

Thomas Sullivan on Twitter

The Vikings might as well best the lowly Lion's.

This could be the most meaningless stat of all the meaningless stats you post.

Most teams don't go straight from tanking to the Super Bowl. We aren't likely to either, win or lose, but a loss gives us a chance to pick ahead of some other teams, and that could make a difference down the road, if not immediately next season. Hopefully a loss leads to a new regime, but that's a long shot given the recent extensions.

I'm so glad we didn't lose to the freaking Lions to close the season. I don't care if it cost us 20 positions of draft order.



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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 8:29:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Fans should be outraged but it actually spurs MORE fan interest in their quest for the mysterious 'spirit of competition'. Yet nary a peep that the NFL rules even allow a 7-9 team to be in the playoffs. Or damn near half make the playoffs. Spirit of competition, elusive you are.

Ah, the masses... so gullible.

The record has nothing to do with it. Those are the rules that have governed the game for decades. One or two of those teams that made the playoffs went on to win their first playoff game.

On that note, Wentz came out today and said he is going to ask for a trade. After the debacle on Sunday night, don't be surprised if there is a mass exodus of veterans in Philly.

The players put their bodies and lives on the line every day in practice and in the off-season, working out for an opportunity to win. When the coach opts to make ridiculous decisions that don't afford them that opportunity, there is bound to be a backlash. You could see it on their faces on the sidelines. I guarantee you the GM's phone was ringing off the hook over the past 12 hours.


The Wentz request was the worst kept secret in sports. Stolen opportunities spiraling towards 4-11-1? Really?

If you think winning is paramount sitting at .300 during the pre-game breakfast and above the business aspect of it, then there isn't anything to say.

Rah, rah, go team.

I have no sympathy for the Eagles. I have no sympathy for the Giants. I have an issue with a coach cashing out his chips before the end of the card game. It's unethical, at-best. They can say what they want about Adam Gase, but he had his guys playing hard until the bitter end. I'd hire him in some capacity over Pederson at this point.


The NFC East is an embarrassment. I'm glad there is controversy in Philly, glad Wentz wants out.

But the Eagles get the 6th pick instead of the 9th, a good bit of draft capital, which sucks. And when the Eagles are on the clock multitudes of their deplorable fans will be cheering, which also sucks. Too bad the Vikings couldn't have jumped 3 slots if they had lost their meaningless game.

What did the Eagles do with their draft capital last season? They drafted Jalen Reagor one pick before Justin Jefferson went to the Vikings.

Draft capital means nothing if you pick the wrong guys.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 8:41:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Fans should be outraged but it actually spurs MORE fan interest in their quest for the mysterious 'spirit of competition'. Yet nary a peep that the NFL rules even allow a 7-9 team to be in the playoffs. Or damn near half make the playoffs. Spirit of competition, elusive you are.

Ah, the masses... so gullible.

The record has nothing to do with it. Those are the rules that have governed the game for decades. One or two of those teams that made the playoffs went on to win their first playoff game.

On that note, Wentz came out today and said he is going to ask for a trade. After the debacle on Sunday night, don't be surprised if there is a mass exodus of veterans in Philly.

The players put their bodies and lives on the line every day in practice and in the off-season, working out for an opportunity to win. When the coach opts to make ridiculous decisions that don't afford them that opportunity, there is bound to be a backlash. You could see it on their faces on the sidelines. I guarantee you the GM's phone was ringing off the hook over the past 12 hours.


The Wentz request was the worst kept secret in sports. Stolen opportunities spiraling towards 4-11-1? Really?

If you think winning is paramount sitting at .300 during the pre-game breakfast and above the business aspect of it, then there isn't anything to say.

Rah, rah, go team.

I have no sympathy for the Eagles. I have no sympathy for the Giants. I have an issue with a coach cashing out his chips before the end of the card game. It's unethical, at-best. They can say what they want about Adam Gase, but he had his guys playing hard until the bitter end. I'd hire him in some capacity over Pederson at this point.


The NFC East is an embarrassment. I'm glad there is controversy in Philly, glad Wentz wants out.

But the Eagles get the 6th pick instead of the 9th, a good bit of draft capital, which sucks. And when the Eagles are on the clock multitudes of their deplorable fans will be cheering, which also sucks. Too bad the Vikings couldn't have jumped 3 slots if they had lost their meaningless game.

What did the Eagles do with their draft capital last season? They drafted Jalen Reagor one pick before Justin Jefferson went to the Vikings.

Draft capital means nothing if you pick the wrong guys.


Capital, as in the three place jump is a high 3rd round pick. Probably more as teams tend to overpay near the top of the draft, especially when teams are trying to trade up for QBs.

Call it a 2nd round pick.
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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 8:44:02 AM   
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And let's not hear hysteric and speculative innuendo presented as fact such as the locker room will stage a mutiny unless there are some, well, facts.
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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 8:44:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Fans should be outraged but it actually spurs MORE fan interest in their quest for the mysterious 'spirit of competition'. Yet nary a peep that the NFL rules even allow a 7-9 team to be in the playoffs. Or damn near half make the playoffs. Spirit of competition, elusive you are.

Ah, the masses... so gullible.

The record has nothing to do with it. Those are the rules that have governed the game for decades. One or two of those teams that made the playoffs went on to win their first playoff game.

On that note, Wentz came out today and said he is going to ask for a trade. After the debacle on Sunday night, don't be surprised if there is a mass exodus of veterans in Philly.

The players put their bodies and lives on the line every day in practice and in the off-season, working out for an opportunity to win. When the coach opts to make ridiculous decisions that don't afford them that opportunity, there is bound to be a backlash. You could see it on their faces on the sidelines. I guarantee you the GM's phone was ringing off the hook over the past 12 hours.


The Wentz request was the worst kept secret in sports. Stolen opportunities spiraling towards 4-11-1? Really?

If you think winning is paramount sitting at .300 during the pre-game breakfast and above the business aspect of it, then there isn't anything to say.

Rah, rah, go team.

I have no sympathy for the Eagles. I have no sympathy for the Giants. I have an issue with a coach cashing out his chips before the end of the card game. It's unethical, at-best. They can say what they want about Adam Gase, but he had his guys playing hard until the bitter end. I'd hire him in some capacity over Pederson at this point.


The NFC East is an embarrassment. I'm glad there is controversy in Philly, glad Wentz wants out.

But the Eagles get the 6th pick instead of the 9th, a good bit of draft capital, which sucks. And when the Eagles are on the clock multitudes of their deplorable fans will be cheering, which also sucks. Too bad the Vikings couldn't have jumped 3 slots if they had lost their meaningless game.

What did the Eagles do with their draft capital last season? They drafted Jalen Reagor one pick before Justin Jefferson went to the Vikings.

Draft capital means nothing if you pick the wrong guys.


Capital, as in the three place jump is a high 3rd round pick. Probably more as teams tend to overpay near the top of the draft, especially when teams are trying to trade up for QBs.

Call it a 2nd round pick.

I think you missed my point. They picked Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 8:44:40 AM   
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And let's not hear hysteric and speculative innuendo presented as fact such as the locker room will stage a mutiny unless there are some, well, facts.

Watch and learn. That move didn't sit well, guaranteed.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 8:53:24 AM   
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My prediction: The Eagles draft Justin Fields (provided the Falcons pass on him).

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 9:09:01 AM   
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My prediction: The Eagles draft Justin Fields (provided the Falcons pass on him).

Depends on who the Jets hire.

Jets might go Fields instead of Darnold.
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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 9:11:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Fans should be outraged but it actually spurs MORE fan interest in their quest for the mysterious 'spirit of competition'. Yet nary a peep that the NFL rules even allow a 7-9 team to be in the playoffs. Or damn near half make the playoffs. Spirit of competition, elusive you are.

Ah, the masses... so gullible.

The record has nothing to do with it. Those are the rules that have governed the game for decades. One or two of those teams that made the playoffs went on to win their first playoff game.

On that note, Wentz came out today and said he is going to ask for a trade. After the debacle on Sunday night, don't be surprised if there is a mass exodus of veterans in Philly.

The players put their bodies and lives on the line every day in practice and in the off-season, working out for an opportunity to win. When the coach opts to make ridiculous decisions that don't afford them that opportunity, there is bound to be a backlash. You could see it on their faces on the sidelines. I guarantee you the GM's phone was ringing off the hook over the past 12 hours.


The Wentz request was the worst kept secret in sports. Stolen opportunities spiraling towards 4-11-1? Really?

If you think winning is paramount sitting at .300 during the pre-game breakfast and above the business aspect of it, then there isn't anything to say.

Rah, rah, go team.

I have no sympathy for the Eagles. I have no sympathy for the Giants. I have an issue with a coach cashing out his chips before the end of the card game. It's unethical, at-best. They can say what they want about Adam Gase, but he had his guys playing hard until the bitter end. I'd hire him in some capacity over Pederson at this point.


The NFC East is an embarrassment. I'm glad there is controversy in Philly, glad Wentz wants out.

But the Eagles get the 6th pick instead of the 9th, a good bit of draft capital, which sucks. And when the Eagles are on the clock multitudes of their deplorable fans will be cheering, which also sucks. Too bad the Vikings couldn't have jumped 3 slots if they had lost their meaningless game.

What did the Eagles do with their draft capital last season? They drafted Jalen Reagor one pick before Justin Jefferson went to the Vikings.

Draft capital means nothing if you pick the wrong guys.


Capital, as in the three place jump is a high 3rd round pick. Probably more as teams tend to overpay near the top of the draft, especially when teams are trying to trade up for QBs.

Call it a 2nd round pick.

I think you missed my point. They picked Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson.


No I got your point, except it doesn't mean anything besides being an example of distortion. We got lucky with Jefferson. They have had good picks, mediocre picks, and bad picks just like all teams.

Not they have the de-facto equivalent of an additional 2nd or 3rd to maneuver with.
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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 9:11:37 AM   
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My prediction: The Eagles draft Justin Fields (provided the Falcons pass on him).


Take it to the Eagles thread.
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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 3:13:34 PM   
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Some accounts have Leatherwood, Vera-Tucker, and Slater as G/T. Get one in a trade down.

Cleveland - 1st round pick - Bradbury - FA/Udoh - O'Neill

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 3:37:35 PM   
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Some accounts have Leatherwood and Slater as G/T. Get one in a trade down.

Cleveland - Leatherwood - Bradbury - FA/Udoh - O'Neill


this looks pretty good, but let's get a top tier free agent guard for the other side...i'm tired with 'best of the rest' plug and play....

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 3:39:27 PM   
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Some accounts have Leatherwood and Slater as G/T. Get one in a trade down.

Cleveland - Leatherwood - Bradbury - FA/Udoh - O'Neill


this looks pretty good, but let's get a top tier free agent guard for the other side...i'm tired with 'best of the rest' plug and play....


I don't think we can afford "Top Tier".
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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 4:06:48 PM   
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We have multiple holes

-Both G spots assuming Rieff walks and move Ezra to LT. We can mitigate this to one G if we move O'Neal to LT and put Udoh at RT

-One DE assuming Hunter returns healthy. We simply don't have an every down player opposite Hunter. (Wonnum not ready)

-3T No one currently on the roster has stepped up

-S probably two because we have little to no depth here.

-CB again no depth and could use a starter on the outside opposite Dantsler. Gladney to slot.

-K knowing Rick he'll have multiple 6th rd picks so use one on a kicker barring Zim is to have zero interaction with him.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 4:22:11 PM   
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How do you know on Wonnum (he improved every game he was in)?

I wonder why Hill doesn't get more play....seems like once again he came in and played well....

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 4:57:34 PM   
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How do you know on Wonnum (he improved every game he was in)?

I wonder why Hill doesn't get more play....seems like once again he came in and played well....

I think Wonnum could surprise but he currently is nothing more than a situational pass rusher right now. Needs to work on setting the edge better in run defense. But yes he is promising.

I was wondering about Hill myself. Why wasn't he given an opportunity at LG?

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 5:27:05 PM   
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Vikings pick #14 in the first round.

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RE: NFL Draft 2021 - 1/5/2021 7:37:43 PM   
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We have multiple holes

-Both G spots assuming Rieff walks and move Ezra to LT. We can mitigate this to one G if we move O'Neal to LT and put Udoh at RT

-One DE assuming Hunter returns healthy. We simply don't have an every down player opposite Hunter. (Wonnum not ready)

-3T No one currently on the roster has stepped up

-S probably two because we have little to no depth here.

-CB again no depth and could use a starter on the outside opposite Dantsler. Gladney to slot.

-K knowing Rick he'll have multiple 6th rd picks so use one on a kicker barring Zim is to have zero interaction with him.



Good post.

Or Udoh at a guard and keep Oneil at RT. But at least 1 guard.

Agree on DE. Wonnum has shown some potential but so did Ifeadi. For every Hunter and Griffith that develops, a lot more are going to turn into Weatherly's.

I'm really curious for someone to do a dive on Watts. It seemed to me he was playing NT after playing 3T last year. He doesn't get wiped out like Jaleel Johnson. And at NT has to take on two blockers a lot. I wonder if he would be better at 3T. Second year guy could still take another step forward. But if he's playing NT and rotating with Pierce next year then we def need a 3T.

I would draft a S and try and get Smith to take a pay cut and extension. Add 1 year making it a 2 year 16M deal, add some guarantee money and then off to retirement for him in 2022? Let Harris walk unless there is no market for him and we can get him at a big discount.

Agree on CB. Need a starter and depth.

Also put WR on that list somewhere. We don't have any developmental guys and Thielan is not getting any younger.

We need another 2015 or 2020 draft. We have a 2016 draft and this team will drop off a cliff, imo.

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