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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 1:54:13 PM

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What an acquiring team would owe Dalvin Cook:

2023: $10.4M salary, $100K workout bonus, $500K LTBE playing-time incentive, $11M cap hit

2024: $11.9M salary, $100K bonus, $500K incentive, $12.5M cap hit

2025: $13.9M salary, $100K bonus, $500K incentive, $14.5M cap hit
9:52 AM · May 31, 2023

No team is trading for this...

surprised he hasn't been cut already or a reworked contract.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 1:59:21 PM

Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

What an acquiring team would owe Dalvin Cook:

2023: $10.4M salary, $100K workout bonus, $500K LTBE playing-time incentive, $11M cap hit

2024: $11.9M salary, $100K bonus, $500K incentive, $12.5M cap hit

2025: $13.9M salary, $100K bonus, $500K incentive, $14.5M cap hit
9:52 AM · May 31, 2023

No team is trading for this...

surprised he hasn't been cut already or a reworked contract.

They are trying to get someone to pay it; Miami may do it. No rbs make that much. Rumor is that he almost is ready to take a pay cut.

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 6/1/2023 2:00:23 PM >

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 2:46:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

What an acquiring team would owe Dalvin Cook:

2023: $10.4M salary, $100K workout bonus, $500K LTBE playing-time incentive, $11M cap hit

2024: $11.9M salary, $100K bonus, $500K incentive, $12.5M cap hit

2025: $13.9M salary, $100K bonus, $500K incentive, $14.5M cap hit
9:52 AM · May 31, 2023

No team is trading for this...

surprised he hasn't been cut already or a reworked contract.

They are trying to get someone to pay it; Miami may do it. No rbs make that much. Rumor is that he almost is ready to take a pay cut.

at this late date, is it possible for us to convert thielen into a post june 1st cut?....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 2:50:44 PM

ratoppenheimer

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is this real?....

Ian Rappaport🥏@Rapshe3tNy
🚨 breaking the Minnesota #Vikings , have informed pro bowl running back Dalvin Cook he’s being released

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 3:12:31 PM

David Levine

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is this real?....

Ian Rappaport🥏@Rapshe3tNy
🚨 breaking the Minnesota #Vikings , have informed pro bowl running back Dalvin Cook he’s being released

I'm pretty sure the real Ian Rapoport has more than 10 followers...

...And doesn't badly misspell his own last name...

< Message edited by David Levine -- 6/1/2023 3:13:49 PM >

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 3:17:41 PM

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is this real?....

Ian Rappaport🥏@Rapshe3tNy
🚨 breaking the Minnesota #Vikings , have informed pro bowl running back Dalvin Cook he’s being released

I'm pretty sure the real Ian Rapoport has more than 10 followers...

...And doesn't badly misspell his own last name...

I told him to lay off the Port but he doesn't listen.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 4:12:51 PM

Phil Riewer

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Ben Ellefson TE from Hawley announced retirement today due to injuries....only 26.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/6/1/23745884/minnesota-vikings-te-ben-ellefson-announces-his-retirement

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 4:35:47 PM

David Levine

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3 years, 16 games, 4 receptions, 36 yards.

Doubt he was going to make the team.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/1/2023 9:24:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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is this real?....

Ian Rappaport🥏@Rapshe3tNy
🚨 breaking the Minnesota #Vikings , have informed pro bowl running back Dalvin Cook he’s being released

I'm pretty sure the real Ian Rapoport has more than 10 followers...

...And doesn't badly misspell his own last name...

Crazy what some people do for enjoyment

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/2/2023 11:14:30 AM

Phil Riewer

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3 years, 16 games, 4 receptions, 36 yards.

Doubt he was going to make the team.

Likely; but it sounds injury related also.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/2/2023 4:28:25 PM

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this is a nice clip of addison at rookie camp....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nCPRdBdvTg

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/3/2023 3:52:39 AM

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“Regarding a release of Cook on Friday or afterward, here’s the question — why would the Vikings outright release Cook when it could’ve done so at any time in the last four months? Releases can be designated with a post-June-1st designation; it happens frequently in the NFL. Perhaps Minnesota learned early on in The Cook Sweepstakes that he wasn’t a hot commodity on the trade market. He could’ve been tabbed for a post-6/1 cut, and the running back would’ve been free to sign anywhere.

If the Vikings planned to release Cook at an anytime this offseason, they could’ve done it by now. Nothing was holding them back. Trades, on the other hand, cannot be marked with a post-June-1st designation.”…vikingsterritory

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/3/2023 2:51:14 PM

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So you think someone would be willing to trade a conditional future pick?

That’s about all Cook is worth, at this time.

Running back is a throw away position easily filled by a guy with leg strength and hand strength..

Hold onto the fn ball, run…

Rocket surgery it is not.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/3/2023 3:41:00 PM

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Yes, a conditional future pick. Maybe. But something milder than the Zad deal ...

I can't imagine us keeping Cook as is, after paying Mattison. I don't believe I've heard the obligatory but meaningless, 'Dalvin is our RB in 2023'.

Mattison's cap numbers are 2.4 in 2023 and 4.6 in 2024 (Over the Cap). Which is fine but with Cook's ... that's 14.1+4.6 = 18.7 for two RBs this year which is more than anybody else in the league (for two RBs ... Henry gets 16.3M). The Falcons are the only team with two of the top twenty paid RBs, and theirs add up to 9M and change.

Its possible the Vikings wanted to keep him with a big pay cut but that didn't happen.

They didn't want to outright cut him or they would have released him in the last three days or with the June 1 designation earlier.

So we are probably still fishing for a Zad type deal ... Cook reworking his deal to one year so he can be a FA next year, us absorbing some of his cap number to facilitate the move, both teams exchanging lower round picks to save face.

EDIT: Other team gets Cook, we get some cap relief and a very late rd pick, Cook gets FA at the start of the league season next year instead of June (after everybody has shot their wad).

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/3/2023 4:08:03 PM

Tom Sykes

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Which would mean Cook having to approve the deal / destination.

Seems complicated for a $$$ older RB.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/7/2023 1:34:37 PM

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No ones talking so lets go back to the catch.

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So, can anyone identify a better catch? Or even an equal one?

Diggs had almost an equal in the same game.

Not close. That was an 8 WR's out of 10 could have caught one.

Agreed. That was a fine catch, but one that I would be surprised to see Diggs or Jefferson not make.

I think almoat all the 1s & 2s can make the Moss catch as well.
Nice as can be but thats what these guys do. Crazy athleticism is pretty common with WRs

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/7/2023 2:10:51 PM

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Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
From Inside Minicamps LIVE on NFL+: The #Vikings are receiving trade calls centered around star pass-rusher Danielle Hunter, and the interest is real, sources say. A look inside the complex situation.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1666518016857612300

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/7/2023 2:20:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

No ones talking so lets go back to the catch.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

So, can anyone identify a better catch? Or even an equal one?

Diggs had almost an equal in the same game.

Not close. That was an 8 WR's out of 10 could have caught one.

Agreed. That was a fine catch, but one that I would be surprised to see Diggs or Jefferson not make.

I think almoat all the 1s & 2s can make the Moss catch as well.
Nice as can be but thats what these guys do. Crazy athleticism is pretty common with WRs

Sure lets go back to discussing how routine these catches are for these crazy athlestes. That’s interesting. And absurd.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/7/2023 3:28:29 PM

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Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
From Inside Minicamps LIVE on NFL+: The #Vikings are receiving trade calls centered around star pass-rusher Danielle Hunter, and the interest is real, sources say. A look inside the complex situation.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1666518016857612300

I wonder what his trade value would be? I doubt we trade him, though. Flores wants some pieces on the chessboard to build his system around.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/7/2023 3:33:55 PM

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Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
From Inside Minicamps LIVE on NFL+: The #Vikings are receiving trade calls centered around star pass-rusher Danielle Hunter, and the interest is real, sources say. A look inside the complex situation.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1666518016857612300

I wonder what his trade value would be? I doubt we trade him, though. Flores wants some pieces on the chessboard to build his system around.

Really sucks to trade him now, no idea where in the draft the pick would be.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/7/2023 3:40:56 PM

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last season, over the first three quarters, the bills and eagles led the league with a +150 point differential... he vikings were 3rd worst at -87....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/7/2023 7:22:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

No ones talking so lets go back to the catch.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

So, can anyone identify a better catch? Or even an equal one?

Diggs had almost an equal in the same game.

Not close. That was an 8 WR's out of 10 could have caught one.

Agreed. That was a fine catch, but one that I would be surprised to see Diggs or Jefferson not make.

I think almoat all the 1s & 2s can make the Moss catch as well.
Nice as can be but thats what these guys do. Crazy athleticism is pretty common with WRs

Sure lets go back to discussing how routine these catches are for these crazy athlestes. That’s interesting. And absurd.

It's like Jefferson and Diggs are just run of the mill WRs, and we see catches like this all the time.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/7/2023 10:47:09 PM

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last season, over the first three quarters, the bills and eagles led the league with a +150 point differential... he vikings were 3rd worst at -87....

How did vikes do in the fourth quarter?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2023 8:23:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

No ones talking so lets go back to the catch.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

So, can anyone identify a better catch? Or even an equal one?

Diggs had almost an equal in the same game.

Not close. That was an 8 WR's out of 10 could have caught one.

Agreed. That was a fine catch, but one that I would be surprised to see Diggs or Jefferson not make.

I think almoat all the 1s & 2s can make the Moss catch as well.
Nice as can be but thats what these guys do. Crazy athleticism is pretty common with WRs

Sure lets go back to discussing how routine these catches are for these crazy athlestes. That’s interesting. And absurd.

It's like Jefferson and Diggs are just run of the mill WRs, and we see catches like this all the time.

People in here throw the word ‘great’ around for anything … odd that a play that blows a lot of people away - outside of this forum - is called routine in here.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/8/2023 8:26:04 AM

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last season, over the first three quarters, the bills and eagles led the league with a +150 point differential... he vikings were 3rd worst at -87....

How did vikes do in the fourth quarter?