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Ian Rapoport
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The #Jaguars are expected to hire former #Vikings OC John DeFilippo as their new offensive coordinator, sources say. Doug Marrone took his time with such a key hire, but when the deal gets done, he’ll have his guy.

And the Jags offense will sputter a plenty under Flips Expert tutelage

That offense will progress only if they get a QB that is competent.

I was high on the Flip hire. My opinion of him hasn't changed.

How is that possible.
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This team was a horror show getting blown out in buffalo under defilipo
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He sucked.
Period.

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Ian Rapoport
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The #Jaguars are expected to hire former #Vikings OC John DeFilippo as their new offensive coordinator, sources say. Doug Marrone took his time with such a key hire, but when the deal gets done, he’ll have his guy.

And the Jags offense will sputter a plenty under Flips Expert tutelage

That offense will progress only if they get a QB that is competent.

I was high on the Flip hire. My opinion of him hasn't changed.

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Ian Rapoport
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1h1 hour ago

The #Jaguars are expected to hire former #Vikings OC John DeFilippo as their new offensive coordinator, sources say. Doug Marrone took his time with such a key hire, but when the deal gets done, he’ll have his guy.

And the Jags offense will sputter a plenty under Flips Expert tutelage

That offense will progress only if they get a QB that is competent.

I was high on the Flip hire. My opinion of him hasn't changed.

Eagles did well because Doug Pederson is a good coach and Frank Reich was the OC. Foles sucked shit at first and then got better.

Pederson got more out of Foles this year and Foles is probably going to cash in as a result. Eagles made the playoffs and won a game
Reich went on to be Head coach of the Colts and they went from recent doormat to wild card team also winning a game in the playoffs.
Flip came to Minnesota and turned a NFCCG offense into a sputtering mess. Given a decent QB, RB, WRs and albeit a shitty Oline he did nothing to improve that unit and ignored the HC and did his own thing despite its weekly failures and his inability to adapt.

I'm sorry, Flip was NOT the reason for Foles success in Philadelphia last year. That was Pederson and Reich.


Flip road their coattails.

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Ian Rapoport
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The #Jaguars are expected to hire former #Vikings OC John DeFilippo as their new offensive coordinator, sources say. Doug Marrone took his time with such a key hire, but when the deal gets done, he’ll have his guy.

And the Jags offense will sputter a plenty under Flips Expert tutelage

That offense will progress only if they get a QB that is competent.

I was high on the Flip hire. My opinion of him hasn't changed.

Eagles did well because Doug Pederson is a good coach and Frank Reich was the OC. Foles sucked shit at first and then got better.

Pederson got more out of Foles this year and Foles is probably going to cash in as a result. Eagles made the playoffs and won a game
Reich went on to be Head coach of the Colts and they went from recent doormat to wild card team also winning a game in the playoffs.
Flip came to Minnesota and turned a NFCCG offense into a sputtering mess. Given a decent QB, RB, WRs and albeit a shitty Oline he did nothing to improve that unit and ignored the HC and did his own thing despite its weekly failures and his inability to adapt.

I'm sorry, Flip was NOT the reason for Foles success in Philadelphia last year. That was Pederson and Reich.


Flip road their coattails.

See my post above.

I never gave him credit for any of those things. But you do forget to mention that Wentz took a HUGE step back this year. Flip was in charge of the Eagles redzone offense, and they were excellent.

Time will tell. The ball don't lie.

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Ian Rapoport
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The #Jaguars are expected to hire former #Vikings OC John DeFilippo as their new offensive coordinator, sources say. Doug Marrone took his time with such a key hire, but when the deal gets done, he’ll have his guy.

And the Jags offense will sputter a plenty under Flips Expert tutelage

That offense will progress only if they get a QB that is competent.

I was high on the Flip hire. My opinion of him hasn't changed.

Eagles did well because Doug Pederson is a good coach and Frank Reich was the OC. Foles sucked shit at first and then got better.

Pederson got more out of Foles this year and Foles is probably going to cash in as a result. Eagles made the playoffs and won a game
Reich went on to be Head coach of the Colts and they went from recent doormat to wild card team also winning a game in the playoffs.
Flip came to Minnesota and turned a NFCCG offense into a sputtering mess. Given a decent QB, RB, WRs and albeit a shitty Oline he did nothing to improve that unit and ignored the HC and did his own thing despite its weekly failures and his inability to adapt.

I'm sorry, Flip was NOT the reason for Foles success in Philadelphia last year. That was Pederson and Reich.


Flip road their coattails.

See my post above.

I never gave him credit for any of those things. But you do forget to mention that Wentz took a HUGE step back this year. Flip was in charge of the Eagles redzone offense, and they were excellent.

Time will tell. The ball don't lie.

Frank Reich was the OC and moved to The Colts who took a big step forward this year.

Coincidence? I think not.

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The QB coach is Klint Kubiak, who has all of six games NFL experience in that role.

Kubiak for a guy that isn’t going to be a coordinator, it sure as hell sounds like he’s getting his guys to coordinate and install an offense.

I wonder what Stefanski is thinking...

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Ian Rapoport
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The #Jaguars are expected to hire former #Vikings OC John DeFilippo as their new offensive coordinator, sources say. Doug Marrone took his time with such a key hire, but when the deal gets done, he’ll have his guy.

And the Jags offense will sputter a plenty under Flips Expert tutelage

That offense will progress only if they get a QB that is competent.

I was high on the Flip hire. My opinion of him hasn't changed.

Eagles did well because Doug Pederson is a good coach and Frank Reich was the OC. Foles sucked shit at first and then got better.

Pederson got more out of Foles this year and Foles is probably going to cash in as a result. Eagles made the playoffs and won a game
Reich went on to be Head coach of the Colts and they went from recent doormat to wild card team also winning a game in the playoffs.
Flip came to Minnesota and turned a NFCCG offense into a sputtering mess. Given a decent QB, RB, WRs and albeit a shitty Oline he did nothing to improve that unit and ignored the HC and did his own thing despite its weekly failures and his inability to adapt.

I'm sorry, Flip was NOT the reason for Foles success in Philadelphia last year. That was Pederson and Reich.


Flip road their coattails.

See my post above.

I never gave him credit for any of those things. But you do forget to mention that Wentz took a HUGE step back this year. Flip was in charge of the Eagles redzone offense, and they were excellent.

Time will tell. The ball don't lie.

Frank Reich was the OC and moved to The Colts who took a big step forward this year.

Coincidence? I think not.

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Ian Rapoport
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The #Jaguars are expected to hire former #Vikings OC John DeFilippo as their new offensive coordinator, sources say. Doug Marrone took his time with such a key hire, but when the deal gets done, he’ll have his guy.

And the Jags offense will sputter a plenty under Flips Expert tutelage

That offense will progress only if they get a QB that is competent.

I was high on the Flip hire. My opinion of him hasn't changed.

Eagles did well because Doug Pederson is a good coach and Frank Reich was the OC. Foles sucked shit at first and then got better.

Pederson got more out of Foles this year and Foles is probably going to cash in as a result. Eagles made the playoffs and won a game
Reich went on to be Head coach of the Colts and they went from recent doormat to wild card team also winning a game in the playoffs.
Flip came to Minnesota and turned a NFCCG offense into a sputtering mess. Given a decent QB, RB, WRs and albeit a shitty Oline he did nothing to improve that unit and ignored the HC and did his own thing despite its weekly failures and his inability to adapt.

I'm sorry, Flip was NOT the reason for Foles success in Philadelphia last year. That was Pederson and Reich.


Flip road their coattails.

See my post above.

I never gave him credit for any of those things. But you do forget to mention that Wentz took a HUGE step back this year. Flip was in charge of the Eagles redzone offense, and they were excellent.

Time will tell. The ball don't lie.

Frank Reich was the OC and moved to The Colts who took a big step forward this year.

Coincidence? I think not.

Imagine that, Luck is better than Brissett.

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So according to Pager and DL

Flip is a better coach that Frank Reich.

Sure. Ok. Got it.

Makes perfect sense to me.

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So according to Pager and DL

Flip is a better coach that Frank Reich.

Sure. Ok. Got it.

Makes perfect sense to me.

That's what I said

If you think Flip is the reason our offense tanked, or is a bad coach, I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong. You could be right.

My opinion at this point is different.

No big deal.

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I've posted my praises of Reich. Loved him going for the 2 to win (I woulda played for the tie, but I loved the aggression and how he stood by it).

I think Reich is a fantastic coach. That is not mutually exclusive to Flip being a good coach.

The investment in the oline and Luck being healthy, and a huge step forward by their D, including their DROY LB kinda helped with their improvement too.

I liked Reich when they were 1-5. Same coach, different results at the point.

But whatever.

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So according to Pager and DL

Flip is a better coach that Frank Reich.

Sure. Ok. Got it.

Makes perfect sense to me.

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The QB coach is Klint Kubiak, who has all of six games NFL experience in that role.

Kubiak for a guy that isn’t going to be a coordinator, it sure as hell sounds like he’s getting his guys to coordinate and install an offense.

I wonder what Stefanski is thinking...

That is what I have read too and that Stefanski may have been heading to Denver too. Gary Kubiak wanted a role in Denver offensive selecting the offensive players, but was denied that by Elway and that's his reason for leaving. I never knew that cutting back on work is related in any way to a stroke. I can see that if you have had a bunch of mini strokes, it might effect your decision making. I think he will do well here. He might not want to do the grind of coaching, but will be involved in selecting the players, developing technique, plan games and strategies and coaching the coaches.

I thought I heard that young Kubiak worked here for the Vikings before and that he and Stefanski are tight.

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Flip can't be judged fully because of the OL and possibly the QB, who himself can't be judged fully because of the OL and possibly Flip. Flip's tenure here raised an eyebrow on both him and Zimmer, but there are too many variables to say definitively that Flip sucks.

YMMV, but IDGAF.

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Flip came to Minnesota and turned a NFCCG offense into a sputtering mess. Given a decent QB, RB, WRs and albeit a shitty Oline [nice of you to throw that in there as you speed on by] he did nothing to improve that unit and ignored the HC and did his own thing despite its weekly failures and his inability to adapt.

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Too many posts to read back on since the Kubiak thing so forgive me if I’m not covering new ground here. But here’s hw I see it working.

Kubiak’s hiring is basically Zimmer checking out of the offense process completely. Zimmer as head coach obviously retains sort of ‘Football CEO’ status. But on a daily operational level, he doesn’t want anything to do with offense any more. That’s where Kubiak comes in. Kubiak will be sort of head coach of offense. In other words, what would normally be the relationship between head coach and OC will instead be OC and Kubiak, with Zimmer saying “Leave me the hell out of it”.

So while a normal org chart would have head coach on top with two lines forked down to the coordinators, it will now be Zimmer, with a line down to DC, and sort of a dotted horizontal line to Kubiak, and Kubiak will have a line down to OC.

Is that about it?

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Too many posts to read back on since the Kubiak thing so forgive me if I’m not covering new ground here. But here’s hw I see it working.

Kubiak’s hiring is basically Zimmer checking out of the offense process completely. Zimmer as head coach obviously retains sort of ‘Football CEO’ status. But on a daily operational level, he doesn’t want anything to do with offense any more. That’s where Kubiak comes in. Kubiak will be sort of head coach of offense. In other words, what would normally be the relationship between head coach and OC will instead be OC and Kubiak, with Zimmer saying “Leave me the hell out of it”.

So while a normal org chart would have head coach on top with two lines forked down to the coordinators, it will now be Zimmer, with a line down to DC, and sort of a dotted horizontal line to Kubiak, and Kubiak will have a line down to OC.

Is that about it?