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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Here Zim had his shorts in a bunch regarding Keenum and his "lucky horse shoe"

Cousins turns the ball over way more. At least Keenum could and would (right or wrong) try to make a play when things broke down.

All Cousins would do is soil his diaper and curl into the fetal position.

Keenum had 15 INTs and 22 Fs

Cousins had 10 INTs and 9 Fs

What's with the facts, Jack?!

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Here Zim had his shorts in a bunch regarding Keenum and his "lucky horse shoe"

Cousins turns the ball over way more. At least Keenum could and would (right or wrong) try to make a play when things broke down.

All Cousins would do is soil his diaper and curl into the fetal position.

Keenum had 15 INTs and 22 Fs

Cousins had 10 INTs and 9 Fs

To be correct

Year played with Vikings...

2017 Keenum

7 INT / 1 FUM / 1 LOST

2018 Cousins

10 INT / 9 FUM / 7 LOST


to look at the BIG picture...

Cousins has played 78 games - 65 INT / 48 FUM / 22 LOST

Keenum had his issues with INT and FUM, but we gave Kirk the huge 3 year non voidable contract to be ELITE... He certainly doesnt play with a horse shoe in his pocket, nor does he seem to have big balls... I never witnessed his receivers screaming at Keenum either...

Kirk is a stat monster that seems to have warts in leadership and winning big games...

Keenum is a very average player who when surrounded by talent and aided by a lucky horseshoe can play way over his head, but has never sustained such levels.

Both have major warts, neither will EVER win a Super Bowl?

BUT we have Kirk and must figure out how to win with him...

Hou cn spin however you want .... thr 2017 vikes were. vastly different - all the way around, not just the QBs.

Last year, 2 QBs on new teams.

When comparing why wouldnt you use the common denominator of consecutive years on Vikings teams that other than a few OL changes were very much same. Its what the QB did while on our team in consecutive years, not what they did on another team...

but whatever Keenum Sucked in 2018 on the Broncos, but had an exceptional year prior for us and was one game from the Super Bowl... may never have had that again and we will never know...

Cousins Sucked in 2018 on the Vikings, he has been a stat monster but has always sucked in turn overs, game crushing interceptions, failure to will his team to wins... he has flamed out in his one chance in the play offs and is well documented to have never won a big game, much less nearly any game on a National stage...

But next year Im sure he will lead us to the promise land behind a beefed up OL because that is all that was stopping him from beating Chicago and making the play offs this year...

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I was comparing Cousins 18 season with Keenums 17

I realize Keenum did lousy this season.

Simply put I liked Keenum better. His ability to extend plays really made a huge difference. It also seemed like he was was really well liked and respected by his team mates.

Not sure Cousins was very well liked in Wash. and tiger doesn't change his stripes.

But I will hope for the best...

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I was comparing Cousins 18 season with Keenums 17

I realize Keenum did lousy this season.

Simply put I liked Keenum better. His ability to extend plays really made a huge difference. It also seemed like he was was really well liked and respected by his team mates.

Not sure Cousins was very well liked in Wash. and tiger doesn't change his stripes.

But I will hope for the best...

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I was comparing Cousins 18 season with Keenums 17

I realize Keenum did lousy this season.

Simply put I liked Keenum better. His ability to extend plays really made a huge difference. It also seemed like he was was really well liked and respected by his team mates.

Not sure Cousins was very well liked in Wash. and tiger doesn't change his stripes.

But I will hope for the best...

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I was comparing Cousins 18 season with Keenums 17

I realize Keenum did lousy this season.

Simply put I liked Keenum better. His ability to extend plays really made a huge difference. It also seemed like he was was really well liked and respected by his team mates.

Not sure Cousins was very well liked in Wash. and tiger doesn't change his stripes.

But I will hope for the best...

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/10/stefon-diggs-hopes-vikings-fans-will-be-patient/

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Cousins is the kind of quarterback who needs a solid offensive line- more so than an Aaron Rodgers or Russel Wilson. Brady doesn't get around either, but he gets rid of the ball so quickly plus he has a solid offensive line. I would like to see Cousins have more plays where he passes before the receiver breaks.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I didn't hear about the Packers getting called more for the holding. That's really good news, especially if continues. Rodgers still buys time in the pocket and holds onto the ball longer than most quarterbacks, I'm sure.

I just checked Cousins stats. He averages less than 3 yards per rush for about 8 yards per game and just one TD. Compare that to Rodgers last season: 17 yards per game and 6 yards per rush and surprisingly for me just 2 TD's.

When I review the numbers, I think Rodgers scrambles mostly to keep the play alive and still wants to throw. He has never rushed for more than an average of 24 yards per game in his career.

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In 2018 Treadwell ranked 93rd out of 96 WRs in yard per route run and ranked 113th out of 125 WRs in run blocking via PFF.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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In 2018 Treadwell ranked 93rd out of 96 WRs in yard per route run and ranked 113th out of 125 WRs in run blocking via PFF.

I don't think WR is that big of a need. With what we have and what's available in the mid to later rounds, and 2nd tier guys...all we need is a 3/4/5. AR did more than fine as a #3. We just have to stop giving snaps to Treadwell.

We have an amazing 1/2 punch filling it the rest should not be that difficult a task.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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In 2018 Treadwell ranked 93rd out of 96 WRs in yard per route run and ranked 113th out of 125 WRs in run blocking via PFF.

I don't think WR is that big of a need. With what we have and what's available in the mid to later rounds, and 2nd tier guys...all we need is a 3/4/5. AR did more than fine as a #3. We just have to stop giving snaps to Treadwell.

We have an amazing 1/2 punch filling it the rest should not be that difficult a task.

Thought he was suppose to be a very good blocker.

Guy sux at everything except collecting a pay check.

What a terrible pick

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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In 2018 Treadwell ranked 93rd out of 96 WRs in yard per route run and ranked 113th out of 125 WRs in run blocking via PFF.

I don't think WR is that big of a need. With what we have and what's available in the mid to later rounds, and 2nd tier guys...all we need is a 3/4/5. AR did more than fine as a #3. We just have to stop giving snaps to Treadwell.

We have an amazing 1/2 punch filling it the rest should not be that difficult a task.

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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In 2018 Treadwell ranked 93rd out of 96 WRs in yard per route run and ranked 113th out of 125 WRs in run blocking via PFF.

I don't think WR is that big of a need. With what we have and what's available in the mid to later rounds, and 2nd tier guys...all we need is a 3/4/5. AR did more than fine as a #3. We just have to stop giving snaps to Treadwell.

We have an amazing 1/2 punch filling it the rest should not be that difficult a task.

I disagree that WR isn't a big need. And if not WR, then we need another weapon (fast TE) to open up and stretch the field. Teams stopped blitzing Cousins as much and were double teaming both Thielen and Diggs late in the season. Rudy was too slow to open up the field, and Treadwell just flat out sucked. No other threats downfield. And it showed big time. The Vikings had NO answer.

We need another weapon that can give Cousins another target, instead of being forced to dump off to Rudy for a 2 yard gain when we need 6 on 3rd down.