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Ben Goessling@GoesslingStrib
For what it's worth, Spielman would not discuss whether the Vikings will use their franchise or transition tags before the start of the league year. In previous years, he's sometimes been willing to rule out those options publicly.

Who would they use those tags on, anyway?

Barreiro had a lady on yesterday saying Anthony Barr is somebody that Zimm might push for tagging.

Doesn't sound like a smart football move, given Barr's production.

Agreed. Let him walk, save the salary this year and get an extra 3rd round compensatory pick next year.

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

Rick Spielman’s Press Conference in Indianapolis

Rickspeak...

Q- What do the Vikings need to do to help Kirk Cousins take his game up a level?

“Kirk has a position, and the contract is going to get a lot of blame, but the blame has to be spread throughout. Our season wasn’t good enough for our standards last year, but statistically if you look at what Kirk did, he threw for over 4,000 yards and 30 touchdowns, but we didn’t win enough games. So I think going back to an offense that he is very familiar with and working under that Shanahan/Kubiak tree, and really him playing better but everybody has to play better. We all have to do better at our jobs. But him highlighting what he does well, but that’s any player – do the things that they do well and that’s what I talked about earlier is you have your schemes, but adjust some of the things in your schemes so you put your players in the best position to have enough success.”

What did he just say? love how he touched (NOT) on the O line and direct effect of neglecting such had on 2018???

If there ever was any doubt that Spielman's remarks provide little insight, then there shouldn't be after that answer. Reminds me of his comments regarding QB play during the 2013 season. Insulting, in some respects, to knowledgeable football fans.

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

Rick Spielman’s Press Conference in Indianapolis

Rickspeak...

Q- What do the Vikings need to do to help Kirk Cousins take his game up a level?

“Kirk has a position, and the contract is going to get a lot of blame, but the blame has to be spread throughout. Our season wasn’t good enough for our standards last year, but statistically if you look at what Kirk did, he threw for over 4,000 yards and 30 touchdowns, but we didn’t win enough games. So I think going back to an offense that he is very familiar with and working under that Shanahan/Kubiak tree, and really him playing better but everybody has to play better. We all have to do better at our jobs. But him highlighting what he does well, but that’s any player – do the things that they do well and that’s what I talked about earlier is you have your schemes, but adjust some of the things in your schemes so you put your players in the best position to have enough success.”

What did he just say? love how he touched (NOT) on the O line and direct effect of neglecting such had on 2018???

If there ever was any doubt that Spielman's remarks provide little insight, then there shouldn't be after that answer. Reminds me of his comments regarding QB play during the 2013 season. Insulting, in some respects, to knowledgeable football fans.

I'm sure he has no intention of providing 'insight' to the public domain.

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“Probably too much,” Zimmer said when asked how much he thinks about the kicking game. “You sit there, and you think about we missed a 27-yard field goal [by Blair Walsh] in Seattle in the [2015] playoffs. Then, this happens. Then, you bring a guy in, and he misses an extra point. Then, maybe you’re a little bit more jumpy than maybe you should be, I think. It’s like everything else you might overreact.”

Zimmer has the yips for kickers!

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/28/mike-zimmer-looking-at-hiring-kicking-coach/


Maybe he can also look at adding a clock management coach and challenge flag coach as our season of coaching excesses continues...

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ORIGINAL: Jason Dorn

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

Picking up Zimms one year option is hardly a vote of confidence... It only prevents the feelings of a lame duck coach with a second level of coaching applied under him in the Kubiak crowd being under contract for longer than the HC..

From what I have read its a one year option that carries a buy out clause and no guarantees. Coaching contracts count nothing against cap and can be moved on from easily if need be.

Worth noting that Spiels is also on his final year in 2019...

They have plenty of confidence in Zimmer. Could it be the Wilfs actually respect what Mike Zimmer has done for the organization. He took over a team that was 32nd in defense with M Cassel and Ponder at QB. AD sabotaged his first season which started with a 30-6 win on the road- then AD blew it up. 2016 Teddy dislocated his knee- yeah that happens all the time. Last season well was last season. In between are the season I expect from Coach Zimmer's teams going forward and IMO so does he.

They picked up his option. It means if things go south he is protected. Players are fickle and team dynamics can be complicated.

Winning cures everything and really all he is judged by. Saying he turtles up or is a gutless leader well that is what sites like this are for. An outlet for sports fanatics to voice their concerns of the team. As a lifelong Minnesota sports fan - there are plenty of disappointments and concerns.

Zimmer still has life and opportunity as all the current roster does and frankly its a rare one- Win the whole Fn thing for the first time.

That's why we are here and why we endure. Who knows but this franchise has never won it all despite being a very successful franchise overall. That said- if or when the Vikings do this- I think it will be surreal. Man I hope to drink from that cup of victory. Never Give up! Corny I know but WTF I guess you never know other than death(which you dont know the time) and taxes- (you better get those paid on time).

You sound like Zim's defense attorney

This ext really means nothing as far as their confidence level.

It's more of a move that gives the HC a fighting chance so the players don't tune him out.

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

“Probably too much,” Zimmer said when asked how much he thinks about the kicking game. “You sit there, and you think about we missed a 27-yard field goal [by Blair Walsh] in Seattle in the [2015] playoffs. Then, this happens. Then, you bring a guy in, and he misses an extra point. Then, maybe you’re a little bit more jumpy than maybe you should be, I think. It’s like everything else you might overreact.”

Zimmer has the yips for kickers!

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/28/mike-zimmer-looking-at-hiring-kicking-coach/


Maybe he can also look at adding a clock management coach and challenge flag coach as our season of coaching excesses continues...

Clock management and Challenge Flag should be responsibility of the Quality control coach.

But **** it. Why not hire a couple more coaches? Make sure they are related to somebody on the coaching staff though.

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

“Probably too much,” Zimmer said when asked how much he thinks about the kicking game. “You sit there, and you think about we missed a 27-yard field goal [by Blair Walsh] in Seattle in the [2015] playoffs. Then, this happens. Then, you bring a guy in, and he misses an extra point. Then, maybe you’re a little bit more jumpy than maybe you should be, I think. It’s like everything else you might overreact.”

Zimmer has the yips for kickers!

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/28/mike-zimmer-looking-at-hiring-kicking-coach/


Maybe he can also look at adding a clock management coach and challenge flag coach as our season of coaching excesses continues...

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

Rick Spielman’s Press Conference in Indianapolis

Rickspeak...

Q- What do the Vikings need to do to help Kirk Cousins take his game up a level?

“Kirk has a position, and the contract is going to get a lot of blame, but the blame has to be spread throughout. Our season wasn’t good enough for our standards last year, but statistically if you look at what Kirk did, he threw for over 4,000 yards and 30 touchdowns, but we didn’t win enough games. So I think going back to an offense that he is very familiar with and working under that Shanahan/Kubiak tree, and really him playing better but everybody has to play better. We all have to do better at our jobs. But him highlighting what he does well, but that’s any player – do the things that they do well and that’s what I talked about earlier is you have your schemes, but adjust some of the things in your schemes so you put your players in the best position to have enough success.”

What did he just say? love how he touched (NOT) on the O line and direct effect of neglecting such had on 2018???

If there ever was any doubt that Spielman's remarks provide little insight, then there shouldn't be after that answer. Reminds me of his comments regarding QB play during the 2013 season. Insulting, in some respects, to knowledgeable football fans.

I'm sure he has no intention of providing 'insight' to the public domain.

Not all insight puts the team at a competitive disadvantage.

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https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/2/27/18243957/minnesota-vikings-shopping-trae-waynes-scouting-combine#

Just checked some old articles from Mayock on Waynes. Very high on him.

Waynes for LG Osemele

2019 10.2M cap hit
2020 11.7M cap hit

LT Reiff/Dillard
LG Osemele
C Paradis
RG Elf
RT O'Neill

or

LT O'Neill/Reiff
LG Osemele
C Paradis
RG Elf
RT Cody Ford

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

“Probably too much,” Zimmer said when asked how much he thinks about the kicking game. “You sit there, and you think about we missed a 27-yard field goal [by Blair Walsh] in Seattle in the [2015] playoffs. Then, this happens. Then, you bring a guy in, and he misses an extra point. Then, maybe you’re a little bit more jumpy than maybe you should be, I think. It’s like everything else you might overreact.”

Zimmer has the yips for kickers!

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/28/mike-zimmer-looking-at-hiring-kicking-coach/


Maybe he can also look at adding a clock management coach and challenge flag coach as our season of coaching excesses continues...

Clock management and Challenge Flag should be responsibility of the Quality control coach.

But **** it. Why not hire a couple more coaches? Make sure they are related to somebody on the coaching staff though.

Shouldn't clock management and field position decisions (punt vs. go for it vs. field goal) be 90% based on analytics? Seems like they could usually make the correct decision if they simply looked it up on a computer and went with the percentages.

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

Picking up Zimms one year option is hardly a vote of confidence... It only prevents the feelings of a lame duck coach with a second level of coaching applied under him in the Kubiak crowd being under contract for longer than the HC..

From what I have read its a one year option that carries a buy out clause and no guarantees. Coaching contracts count nothing against cap and can be moved on from easily if need be.

Worth noting that Spiels is also on his final year in 2019...

They have plenty of confidence in Zimmer. Could it be the Wilfs actually respect what Mike Zimmer has done for the organization. He took over a team that was 32nd in defense with M Cassel and Ponder at QB. AD sabotaged his first season which started with a 30-6 win on the road- then AD blew it up. 2016 Teddy dislocated his knee- yeah that happens all the time. Last season well was last season. In between are the season I expect from Coach Zimmer's teams going forward and IMO so does he.

They picked up his option. It means if things go south he is protected. Players are fickle and team dynamics can be complicated.

Winning cures everything and really all he is judged by. Saying he turtles up or is a gutless leader well that is what sites like this are for. An outlet for sports fanatics to voice their concerns of the team. As a lifelong Minnesota sports fan - there are plenty of disappointments and concerns.

Zimmer still has life and opportunity as all the current roster does and frankly its a rare one- Win the whole Fn thing for the first time.

That's why we are here and why we endure. Who knows but this franchise has never won it all despite being a very successful franchise overall. That said- if or when the Vikings do this- I think it will be surreal. Man I hope to drink from that cup of victory. Never Give up! Corny I know but WTF I guess you never know other than death(which you dont know the time) and taxes- (you better get those paid on time).

You sound like Zim's defense attorney

This ext really means nothing as far as their confidence level.

It's more of a move that gives the HC a fighting chance so the players don't tune him out.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/02/28/minnesota-vikings-coddle-mike-zimmer/

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

“Probably too much,” Zimmer said when asked how much he thinks about the kicking game. “You sit there, and you think about we missed a 27-yard field goal [by Blair Walsh] in Seattle in the [2015] playoffs. Then, this happens. Then, you bring a guy in, and he misses an extra point. Then, maybe you’re a little bit more jumpy than maybe you should be, I think. It’s like everything else you might overreact.”

Zimmer has the yips for kickers!

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/28/mike-zimmer-looking-at-hiring-kicking-coach/


Maybe he can also look at adding a clock management coach and challenge flag coach as our season of coaching excesses continues...

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kwheats

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/2/27/18243957/minnesota-vikings-shopping-trae-waynes-scouting-combine#

Just checked some old articles from Mayock on Waynes. Very high on him.

Waynes for LG Osemele

2019 10.2M cap hit
2020 11.7M cap hit

LT Reiff/Dillard
LG Osemele
C Paradis
RG Elf
RT O'Neill

or

LT O'Neill/Reiff
LG Osemele
C Paradis
RG Elf
RT Cody Ford

You don't bench Reiff in favor of 2nd year O'Neill and rookie Ford. Reiff has been solid as a pro at both LT and RT (when healthy), if overpriced. Just because Ford played well in college (Reiff was ranked equally if not slightly higher as the 2nd best OL in his draft) – it won't simply qualify Ford to start over veteran Reiff.

There is no way that we are trotting out 3 new starters on the OL that are not on the team right now. No chance.

In a worst case scenario, the rumors are true and Reiff is starting at one of the G spots. (and I am completely wrong about him being a solid OT)

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kwheats

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/2/27/18243957/minnesota-vikings-shopping-trae-waynes-scouting-combine#

Just checked some old articles from Mayock on Waynes. Very high on him.

Waynes for LG Osemele

2019 10.2M cap hit
2020 11.7M cap hit

LT Reiff/Dillard
LG Osemele
C Paradis
RG Elf
RT O'Neill

or

LT O'Neill/Reiff
LG Osemele
C Paradis
RG Elf
RT Cody Ford

You don't bench Reiff in favor of 2nd year O'Neill and rookie Ford. Reiff has been solid as a pro at both LT and RT (when healthy), if overpriced. Just because Ford played well in college (Reiff was ranked equally if not slightly higher as the 2nd best OL in his draft) – it won't simply qualify Ford to start over veteran Reiff.

There is no way that we are trotting out 3 new starters on the OL that are not on the team right now. No chance.

In a worst case scenario, the rumors are true and Reiff is starting at one of the G spots. (and I am completely wrong about him being a solid OT)

Very solid in 2017. Had his struggles last year.

I wouldn't pass on Dillard or Ford at #18.

Maybe more realistic is Reiff/Ford/Paradis/Elf/O'Neill

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Never heard anything about Barr being shopped last off-season.

Sounds like either the best kept secret in sports or hogwash.

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Ben Goessling@GoesslingStrib
For what it's worth, Spielman would not discuss whether the Vikings will use their franchise or transition tags before the start of the league year. In previous years, he's sometimes been willing to rule out those options publicly.

Who would they use those tags on, anyway?

Barreiro had a lady on yesterday saying Anthony Barr is somebody that Zimm might push for tagging.

Doesn't sound like a smart football move, given Barr's production.

Agreed. Let him walk, save the salary this year and get an extra 3rd round compensatory pick next year.

We sign a FA OL offsets Barrs compensatory.

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Never heard anything about Barr being shopped last off-season.

Sounds like either the best kept secret in sports or hogwash.

Neither are a surprise for me....you trade guys that have a ton of talent and can't stay healthy. By definition Waynes and Barr.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Never heard anything about Barr being shopped last off-season.

Sounds like either the best kept secret in sports or hogwash.