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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: marty

I am looking forward to next offseason when the Vikings either give Cousins an extension to get some cap relief for next season, or Cousins shows he is a team player and takes a Brady-like cut for the team.

He would have no reason to do any of that. I would love it if he did...but he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that will even talk about restructure. The Vikings have NO leverage on that one. They can't cut him, the hit to the cap would be massive. They would only be able to trade him and where would that leave us?

I have a feeling they draft a guy next year to replace him and let him walk after the 2020 season freeing up a big chunk of cap space.

But we will see.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not a big Rudolph fan but am ok he is in the fold with Smith Jr. Figure out how to use them all. Plus (if a post above is true) the contract gives us cap relief now which would probably be a key item going in.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I love the way this article is written. It made me laugh.

Looking at key positional battles heading towards training camp https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/6/11/18660455/looking-at-key-positional-battles-heading-towards-training-camp

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I love the way this article is written. It made me laugh.

Looking at key positional battles heading towards training camp https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/6/11/18660455/looking-at-key-positional-battles-heading-towards-training-camp

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is the year that the team does all it can to support Cousins. No excuses though if it doesn't work this year. If it works this season, then it makes sense to extend his contract this time next year. If it doesn't, then the Vikings should do all they can to get the best quarterback they can in the 2020 draft.

Question: With the latest change in Rudolph's contract, where are the Vikings sitting with regard to the salary cap in 2019? I bet it's still tight, but maybe a million or two under.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Saw the headline as I was walking into an all day conference. My first thought, what are the contract details? Sounds like Kyle did not give any kind of discount. Good on him, I don't fault him. Also sounds like a two year extension? With flexibility after next year? Good on the team.

Vikings going all in on to give Cousins weapons. Im optimistic about the line (last year not so much), think it can be average with the potential to be above average. If that comes to pass, a third weapon steps up (I'm also optimistic almost anyone will be an upgrade over Treadwell), and Cook stays healthy (now the knee is stronger - expect less soft tissue/hammy issues) this offense could surprise people.

5.1M over the cap by my estimation. Need to stay healthy so we can roll some over to next year. Really hoping some of the young guys surprise, like Collins to take the swing tackle spot so Hill can be traded or cut (save 2M). Need health (as always) and youth to impress.

Next year 21M over the cap, add 9 for Rudolph and we are 30 over the cap. Add in extension for Weatherly, Harris (10M) another 3M for draft picks. 10M cap increase means we gotta shave 35M or so. Griff and Reif likely gone. 25M roughly right there. Rhodes/Joseph/Harrison probably looking at restructures/and/or hard choices.

Better win this year.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Saw the headline as I was walking into an all day conference. My first thought, what are the contract details? Sounds like Kyle did not give any kind of discount. Good on him, I don't fault him. Also sounds like a two year extension? With flexibility after next year? Good on the team.

Vikings going all in on to give Cousins weapons. Im optimistic about the line (last year not so much), think it can be average with the potential to be above average. If that comes to pass, a third weapon steps up (I'm also optimistic almost anyone will be an upgrade over Treadwell), and Cook stays healthy (now the knee is stronger - expect less soft tissue/hammy issues) this offense could surprise people.

5.1M over the cap by my estimation. Need to stay healthy so we can roll some over to next year. Really hoping some of the young guys surprise, like Collins to take the swing tackle spot so Hill can be traded or cut (save 2M). Need health (as always) and youth to impress.

Next year 21M over the cap, add 9 for Rudolph and we are 30 over the cap. Add in extension for Weatherly, Harris (10M) another 3M for draft picks. 10M cap increase means we gotta shave 35M or so. Griff and Reif likely gone. 25M roughly right there. Rhodes/Joseph/Harrison probably looking at restructures/and/or hard choices.

Better win this year.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Hard to dispute these points.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/06/12/minnesota-vikings-extending-rudolph-right/

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Hard to dispute these points.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/06/12/minnesota-vikings-extending-rudolph-right/

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Hard to dispute these points.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/06/12/minnesota-vikings-extending-rudolph-right/

No it isn't hard at all. Here's Rudolph's game logs from last season:

San Fran, 1 catch for 11 yards and a TD
@Green Bay, 7 catches for 72 yards (game went through entire overtime period)
Buffalo, 5 catches for 48 yards and a TD
@Rams, 5 catches for 57 yards
@Philly, 5 catches for 41 yards
Arizona, 4 catches for 37 yards
@Jets, 1 catch for 16 yards
Saints, 4 catches for 39 yards
Detroit, 2 catches for 28 yards
@Chi, 2 catches for 13 yards
Green Bay, 7 catches for 63 yards
@Pats, 3 catches for 38 yards
@Sea, 2 catches for 7 yards
Mia, 3 catches for 23 yards
@Det, 9 catches for 122 yards and 2 TDs
Chi, 4 catches for 19 yards

Where did he go from week 4 through week 14 when he averaged 3 catches for 33 yards and scored ZERO TDs? The team went 5-5 during that stretch. I don't see the value. He had one huge outlier game and the rest was pedestrian at best. He was already overpaid for what we get from him and so we decided to extend him and pay him even more. This is one more reason why this franchise has never won a Super Bowl and won't challenge for one this year either.

To be a championship caliber team you have to make the tough but correct decisions.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Hard to dispute these points.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/06/12/minnesota-vikings-extending-rudolph-right/

No it isn't hard at all. Here's Rudolph's game logs from last season:

San Fran, 1 catch for 11 yards and a TD
@Green Bay, 7 catches for 72 yards (game went through entire overtime period)
Buffalo, 5 catches for 48 yards and a TD
@Rams, 5 catches for 57 yards
@Philly, 5 catches for 41 yards
Arizona, 4 catches for 37 yards
@Jets, 1 catch for 16 yards
Saints, 4 catches for 39 yards
Detroit, 2 catches for 28 yards
@Chi, 2 catches for 13 yards
Green Bay, 7 catches for 63 yards
@Pats, 3 catches for 38 yards
@Sea, 2 catches for 7 yards
Mia, 3 catches for 23 yards
@Det, 9 catches for 122 yards and 2 TDs
Chi, 4 catches for 19 yards

Where did he go from week 4 through week 14 when he averaged 3 catches for 33 yards and scored ZERO TDs? The team went 5-5 during that stretch. I don't see the value. He had one huge outlier game and the rest was pedestrian at best. He was already overpaid for what we get from him and so we decided to extend him and pay him even more. This is one more reason why this franchise has never won a Super Bowl and won't challenge for one this year either.

To be a championship caliber team you have to make the tough but correct decisions.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Hard to dispute these points.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/06/12/minnesota-vikings-extending-rudolph-right/

It does make the case for the extension. The case against is the effect on the cap for the next four years and possibly overpaying a bit.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Hard to dispute these points.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/06/12/minnesota-vikings-extending-rudolph-right/

It does make the case for the extension. The case against is the effect on the cap for the next four years and possibly overpaying a bit.

There were two scenerios...he signs an extension or gets traded/cut....they needed to lower his cap number this year just like they did with Griffin....next year it will be someone else.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: marty

I am looking forward to next offseason when the Vikings either give Cousins an extension to get some cap relief for next season, or Cousins shows he is a team player and takes a Brady-like cut for the team.

He would have no reason to do any of that. I would love it if he did...but he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that will even talk about restructure. The Vikings have NO leverage on that one. They can't cut him, the hit to the cap would be massive. They would only be able to trade him and where would that leave us?

I have a feeling they draft a guy next year to replace him and let him walk after the 2020 season freeing up a big chunk of cap space.

But we will see.

The chances of drafting a QB that will be good after one year on the bench are remote. We really need to have Cousins for another 3 or 4 years even if we draft a QB in the first round next year. Then odds are that QB fails and we have to try for another.