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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

All this talk about the cap and all I can think about is how we have the NFLs greatest capological genius in our front office.

I have no doubt in my mind that Brez has a plan for the 2020 cap in place already. and in Brez I trust.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

All this talk about the cap and all I can think about is how we have the NFLs greatest capological genius in our front office.

I have no doubt in my mind that Brez has a plan for the 2020 cap in place already. and in Brez I trust.

For sure.

Although I do worry about how the team building strategy has changed during Zimmer's tenure. It used to be 4-5 big ($7M+) contracts a year, now its 11-12.

I doubt that is directly Zimmer-caused and more about how Spielman has evolved /adapted to Zimmer.

Brez is a magician but we are definitely heading towards a bottleneck.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Via Ben Goessling of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, the Vikings have $211.638 million in cap charges for 2020. Unless the salary cap skyrockets from $188.2 million this year by more than $23 million next year, the Vikings will have to trim layers of fat.

Meaning Griffin is gone. Is that counting Waynes? Is he FA and do they count FA? We let him walk and take the comp pick. We probably have to draft a LT and move on from Reiff. Would those moves would do it.

FA's have no salary figure so no they are not included.

Waynes is not on the books for next season unless they re-sign him.

both waynes and alexander are not signed for next season...those are two solid starters that we could very possibly lose in 2020...i think letting them both walk would be a big mistake....

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ORIGINAL: Terry Stoneberg

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Good article.

The definitive breakdown of the Vikings’ Long Snapper battle https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/6/17/18682779/kevin-mcdermott-austin-cutting-long-snapper-battle-minnesota-vikings

Having been a long-snapper in my youth a couple of generations ago. I read when Cutting was drafted that he had the thing down to a science such that even the laces are in the right place when the ball reaches the holder's hands. Never heard of such a thing but watching these highlights is really, REALLY impressive on PAT/FG attempts. The holder never takes time to spin the ball so that the laces face the goal posts yet with only one exception that I saw, that's where they always naturally ended up. That and extreme accuracy meant that the kicks occurred lightning quick, almost impossible to block. One time the right defensive player jumped the snap (had to be an off-side penalty) and without being blocked at all still could not get there in time.

I can appreciate the fact that Cutting appears to be unblockable on punts and often seemed to match or even exceed the gunners' speed at getting to the returner. But to me the laces/accuracy on PATs is even more impressive. I hope the AF will let him play for us this year.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

All this talk about the cap and all I can think about is how we have the NFLs greatest capological genius in our front office.

I have no doubt in my mind that Brez has a plan for the 2020 cap in place already. and in Brez I trust.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

All this talk about the cap and all I can think about is how we have the NFLs greatest capological genius in our front office.

I have no doubt in my mind that Brez has a plan for the 2020 cap in place already. and in Brez I trust.

I don't get the love for Brez in here.

Accountant's are a dime a dozen.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

PA saying that Everson stood out at practices and that he looks better than he has in a while really excites me. If Griff is Griff again that is huge for this team!

(Vikings Spin on Twitter)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

PA saying that Everson stood out at practices and that he looks better than he has in a while really excites me. If Griff is Griff again that is huge for this team!

(Vikings Spin on Twitter)

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

It might be a long time before we have it better than we do right now. Top tier talent and depth, world class facilities, great team chemistry. A lot of guys with their eye on the prize from coaching to scouting.

What don't we have?

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

He will have to be a good blocker to get a roster spot, but he could be a transcendent player. You know what we have now with our fullback CJ Ham- if we need a yard he will get us a yard; if we need three yards he will give us a yard.

Moss was a transcendent player. Lawrence Taylor. Gale Sayers.

I'm not suggesting that he be a player at that level. Maybe transcendent was not the right word, but what I was trying to say was that he could be more than a "niche" player confined to utilizing one narrow strength. Perhaps impact player may be a better choice of words.

Edit: I did find this definition of transcendent, though. It seems to fit.

surpassing the ordinary; exceptional.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

It might be a long time before we have it better than we do right now. Top tier talent and depth, world class facilities, great team chemistry. A lot of guys with their eye on the prize from coaching to scouting.

What don't we have?

I think the best we can hope for with the O Line is that they become average. That might be enough for us to win it all.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

It might be a long time before we have it better than we do right now. Top tier talent and depth, world class facilities, great team chemistry. A lot of guys with their eye on the prize from coaching to scouting.

What don't we have?

I think the best we can hope for with the O Line is that they become average. That might be enough for us to win it all.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

PA saying that Everson stood out at practices and that he looks better than he has in a while really excites me. If Griff is Griff again that is huge for this team!

(Vikings Spin on Twitter)

Practices are one thing. Games are another. Yes him being an all pro type again would be huge.

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

It might be a long time before we have it better than we do right now. Top tier talent and depth, world class facilities, great team chemistry. A lot of guys with their eye on the prize from coaching to scouting.

What don't we have?

I think the best we can hope for with the O Line is that they become average. That might be enough for us to win it all.

Funny thing about "hope" is that it has no limitations, now "expect" there can be limitations there.

There were a lot of dynamics last year for the offensive line to absorb. The passing of their well respected coach, new offensive scheme, players changing positions they have never played, talent not being equal across the board, new QB, lost of stuff.

Now this years group will have some of the same, but Elf has played guard at a high level, at least that is what is being said. O'Neal has an off season of conditioning coming off a pretty good start, Kline has a history of good play in his resume, where Compton did not. Rieff is steady and Bradbury looks the part. I "expect" these guys to be a much improved unit for a few reasons, coaching, talent and competition. I "hope" they are top 10, because I can see the potential to be there, I really can, but we have to wait and see. It's going to be a very interesting camp this year, many questions need to be answered.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

It might be a long time before we have it better than we do right now. Top tier talent and depth, world class facilities, great team chemistry. A lot of guys with their eye on the prize from coaching to scouting.

What don't we have?

I think the best we can hope for with the O Line is that they become average. That might be enough for us to win it all.

I would say that would be the basement expectation.

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

It might be a long time before we have it better than we do right now. Top tier talent and depth, world class facilities, great team chemistry. A lot of guys with their eye on the prize from coaching to scouting.

What don't we have?

I think the best we can hope for with the O Line is that they become average. That might be enough for us to win it all.

Funny thing about "hope" is that it has no limitations, now "expect" there can be limitations there.

There were a lot of dynamics last year for the offensive line to absorb. The passing of their well respected coach, new offensive scheme, players changing positions they have never played, talent not being equal across the board, new QB, lost of stuff.

Now this years group will have some of the same, but Elf has played guard at a high level, at least that is what is being said. O'Neal has an off season of conditioning coming off a pretty good start, Kline has a history of good play in his resume, where Compton did not. Rieff is steady and Bradbury looks the part. I "expect" these guys to be a much improved unit for a few reasons, coaching, talent and competition. I "hope" they are top 10, because I can see the potential to be there, I really can, but we have to wait and see. It's going to be a very interesting camp this year, many questions need to be answered.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Bradbury, O'Neill, and coaching should all = better.

Reiff, we know what we are getting = wash.

Elk and Kline are the two unknowns. Maybe Samia surprises. Still, better than Easton to IR, Compton. Kline v Remmers.

Depth TBD but should be better.

Equates to better than last year.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

It might be a long time before we have it better than we do right now. Top tier talent and depth, world class facilities, great team chemistry. A lot of guys with their eye on the prize from coaching to scouting.

What don't we have?

I think the best we can hope for with the O Line is that they become average. That might be enough for us to win it all.

I would say that would be the basement expectation.

Basement expectation is quite a bit lower. Elflein is a big question mark. Kline coming off a poor year. Average expectations for Reiff. Questionable depth. New coaches.

On the flip side, I'm optimistic about Bradbury and O'Neil and hoping they follow through with more play action to keep the defense guessing.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Bradbury, O'Neill, and coaching should all = better.

Reiff, we know what we are getting = wash.

Elk and Kline are the two unknowns. Maybe Samia surprises. Still, better than Easton to IR, Compton. Kline v Remmers.

Depth TBD but should be better.

Equates to better than last year.

we've got solid o-line players and the coaches and scheme to make them better...we've got the perfect runningbacks for our new zone blocking scheme...we've got the best play-action quarterback in the league and we're going to play to his strengths...we've got a top five wide receiver tandem...we've got a two tight ends that each bring something different to the game and will complement each other....

we've got chad beebe, who defies coverage by any human being or alien on this planet or any other....

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

All this talk about the cap and all I can think about is how we have the NFLs greatest capological genius in our front office.

I have no doubt in my mind that Brez has a plan for the 2020 cap in place already. and in Brez I trust.

I don't get the love for Brez in here.

Accountant's are a dime a dozen.