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http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/story/_/id/25507705/2019-nfl-draft-nuggets-all-32-teams-need-know#min

Minnesota Vikings (6-6-1)
Projected pick: No. 22

It goes without saying that the Vikings need to dedicate a heavy dose of draft capital to fixing the offensive line. It was an issue that wasn't addressed until the second round in 2018, and rookie right tackle Brian O'Neill is playing much earlier than anyone expected. Upgrading their interior spots is imperative, given how overmatched Tom Compton has been at left guard, though the Vikings hope they'll get Nick Easton back in 2019 after neck surgery ended his season in training camp. Minnesota could elect to move on from Mike Remmers, who was paid well to be the Vikings' right tackle before moving inside to right guard where he has struggled. With the potential for departures and a need to improve across the board, it's crucial for the Vikings to attempt to do something in free agency -- even though their current cap structure will limit paying big bucks for a marquee offensive lineman -- and most certainly in the draft. -- Courtney Cronin

Not sure what Courtney is talking about. Once we dump Remmers, Barr, Treadwell and Sendejo, and gain the Floyd money we'll have $27 million to play with. Throw in Rudolph and we're close to $35 million and that's without restructures and shedding more dead weight. No reason we can't sign top FA guards. For example:

out:
Remmers....$4.5m
Barr....$0...no '19 contract
Treadwell...$0 - his money is guaranteed
Sendejo....$5.5m
Rudolph....$7.6m

in:
(FA) Rodger Saffold (G) ($12.5 mil)
(FA) Ben Garland (G) ($6 mil)
(FA) Nick Easton (vet minimum deal)

(FA) Jared Cook (TE) ($7 mil)

draft (rounds 1-3):
Dalton Risner (T)
Beau Benzschawel (G)
Caleb Wilson (TE)

Win Superbowl!

your 'out' money....$17.6m

your 'in' money....($25.5m)

'19 draft pool....($5m)

existing '19 cap space....$9.1m

your present balance of '19 cap space....($3.8m)

you need to save more money

what about:
grifffen....$10.7 - or restructure
waynes....$9m - or extend


things to consider:
linebacker - we need a starting linebacker to replace barr - wilson?
what about sheldon richardson?

While Barr may be a FA next year, we still realize a "savings" of $10MM+ by not having to pay him next year. Like I said, there's more dead weight and restructured deals to be done, but my point was that by just dumping a handful of players we can address our offensive line issues once and for all. In a perfect world, we're able to do it while still retaining a guy like Richardson, but if its a choice between putting together a good to great oline, versus signing Richardson or Tom Johnson, I'm taking the oline.

According to Sportrac, we only have about 9 million under the cap next year. That includes the project increase of the cap, and doesn't include our own FA's like Barr, Richardson, Harris, Murray, Johnson, Easton, our P, our K, etc... Not signing Barr doesn't give us an extra $10 mil toward that total of 9 mil that we already have. So everyone who is signed plus dead cap money is already 181 million and the cap is project at 190. We have the 3rd least amount of cap space for next year. Philadelphia and Jacksonville are over the cap by 12 and 13 million respectively.

We do have candidates to free up cap space.
Sendejo is a no-brainer. 5.5 million.
Rudolph a great guy but too expensive for what he does 7.625
Waynes melon issues 9
Griffen should be negotiated down or cut, up to 10.7
Remmers 4.5
Cutting Treadwell doesn't save any money, just opens a roster spot.


If we cut those 5, we save 37.325 million roughly. I'd be OK with keeping Rudolph and Griff and a reduced price tag for 1 more year.

Of our own FA's I'd like to keep Richardson and Harris if possible, Johnson wouldn't be bad either if reasonable. Barr and Murray can walk.

We do have some cap issues to deal with, time for Rob Brzezinski to work some magic.

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http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/story/_/id/25507705/2019-nfl-draft-nuggets-all-32-teams-need-know#min

Minnesota Vikings (6-6-1)
Projected pick: No. 22

It goes without saying that the Vikings need to dedicate a heavy dose of draft capital to fixing the offensive line. It was an issue that wasn't addressed until the second round in 2018, and rookie right tackle Brian O'Neill is playing much earlier than anyone expected. Upgrading their interior spots is imperative, given how overmatched Tom Compton has been at left guard, though the Vikings hope they'll get Nick Easton back in 2019 after neck surgery ended his season in training camp. Minnesota could elect to move on from Mike Remmers, who was paid well to be the Vikings' right tackle before moving inside to right guard where he has struggled. With the potential for departures and a need to improve across the board, it's crucial for the Vikings to attempt to do something in free agency -- even though their current cap structure will limit paying big bucks for a marquee offensive lineman -- and most certainly in the draft. -- Courtney Cronin

Not sure what Courtney is talking about. Once we dump Remmers, Barr, Treadwell and Sendejo, and gain the Floyd money we'll have $27 million to play with. Throw in Rudolph and we're close to $35 million and that's without restructures and shedding more dead weight. No reason we can't sign top FA guards. For example:

out:
Remmers....$4.5m
Barr....$0...no '19 contract
Treadwell...$0 - his money is guaranteed
Sendejo....$5.5m
Rudolph....$7.6m

in:
(FA) Rodger Saffold (G) ($12.5 mil)
(FA) Ben Garland (G) ($6 mil)
(FA) Nick Easton (vet minimum deal)

(FA) Jared Cook (TE) ($7 mil)

draft (rounds 1-3):
Dalton Risner (T)
Beau Benzschawel (G)
Caleb Wilson (TE)

Win Superbowl!

your 'out' money....$17.6m

your 'in' money....($25.5m)

'19 draft pool....($5m)

existing '19 cap space....$9.1m

your present balance of '19 cap space....($3.8m)

you need to save more money

what about:
grifffen....$10.7 - or restructure
waynes....$9m - or extend


things to consider:
linebacker - we need a starting linebacker to replace barr - wilson?
what about sheldon richardson?

While Barr may be a FA next year, we still realize a "savings" of $10MM+ by not having to pay him next year. Like I said, there's more dead weight and restructured deals to be done, but my point was that by just dumping a handful of players we can address our offensive line issues once and for all. In a perfect world, we're able to do it while still retaining a guy like Richardson, but if its a choice between putting together a good to great oline, versus signing Richardson or Tom Johnson, I'm taking the oline.

According to Sportrac, we only have about 9 million under the cap next year. That includes the project increase of the cap, and doesn't include our own FA's like Barr, Richardson, Harris, Murray, Johnson, Easton, our P, our K, etc... Not signing Barr doesn't give us an extra $10 mil toward that total of 9 mil that we already have. So everyone who is signed plus dead cap money is already 181 million and the cap is project at 190. We have the 3rd least amount of cap space for next year. Philadelphia and Jacksonville are over the cap by 12 and 13 million respectively.

We do have candidates to free up cap space.
Sendejo is a no-brainer. 5.5 million.
Rudolph a great guy but too expensive for what he does 7.625
Waynes melon issues 9
Griffen should be negotiated down or cut, up to 10.7
Remmers 4.5
Cutting Treadwell doesn't save any money, just opens a roster spot.


If we cut those 5, we save 37.325 million roughly. I'd be OK with keeping Rudolph and Griff and a reduced price tag for 1 more year.

Of our own FA's I'd like to keep Richardson and Harris if possible, Johnson wouldn't be bad either if reasonable. Barr and Murray can walk.

We do have some cap issues to deal with, time for Rob Brzezinski to work some magic.

Harris is a RFA, similar to Easton last yr. We can keep him or would get a good return on him (ie 2nd round tender).

I agree with the rest (who to try and let go and keep) except Waynes. Hughes would have to be 100% and we are confident Hill can take another step forward. 9M is not expensive for a starting QB, imo.

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Good news.. defilipo gone, better news from my POV.. no more reading purple embarrassment avatar dudes
POS ts..

enough is enough

See ya, never gonna read ya...



Oh. Btw Todd M .. that feeling you are experiencing is called the ageing process of a true Vikings fan...

kinda like a good single malt whiskey..

We bleed purple, we wear our colors even after getting embarrassed in any game at any time of the season, we always think we are gonna win easily at kickoff.. we lash out in anger at stupid plays and turnovers and missed opportunities to score or stick the dagger in and twist it..

You will come to terms with it..

It is like the blood lust a vampire feels amongst the human fodder..

Only one way to quench it and many, many of us, have and will, probably meet their final destination without that quenching satisfaction of the one real victory.

It weighs on you but it also anchors you, knowing you are not alone on that longship, breaking your back against the oars when the winds are in your face and the goal and glory is upwind all the way...

SKOL!

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Good news.. defilipo gone, better news from my POV.. no more reading purple embarrassment avatar dudes
POS ts..

enough is enough

See ya, never gonna read ya...



Oh. Btw Todd M .. that feeling you are experiencing is called the ageing process of a true Vikings fan...

kinda like a good single malt whiskey..

We bleed purple, we wear our colors even after getting embarrassed in any game at any time of the season, we always think we are gonna win easily at kickoff.. we lash out in anger at stupid plays and turnovers and missed opportunities to score or stick the dagger in and twist it..

You will come to terms with it..

It is like the blood lust a vampire feels amongst the human fodder..

Only one way to quench it and many, many of us, have and will, probably meet their final destination without that quenching satisfaction of the one real victory.

It weighs on you but it also anchors you, knowing you are not alone on that longship, breaking your back against the oars when the winds are in your face and the goal and glory is upwind all the way...

SKOL!

+1, Dan. I'm in it until it's over, either for the team or for me!

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Viking.com videos

Question: Do you expect to see more runs?

Matt Birk: ... maybe a couple more but you are who you are. This team is at it's best when you throw to set up the run.

Zim's coaching record with running (I'm sure many of you have seen it but here it is anyway):

20+ runs a game, record is 45-14
-20 runs a game, 0-16-1

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Viking.com videos

Question: Do you expect to see more runs?

Matt Birk: ... maybe a couple more but you are who you are. This team is at it's best when you throw to set up the run.

Zim's coaching record with running (I'm sure many of you have seen it but here it is anyway):

20+ runs a game, record is 45-14
-20 runs a game, 0-16-1

The old "why run and try to win 13-10 in this new age NFL?" will come up.

When actually if we run well we can play action and get medium to deep shots with passing game.

Vikes 41 Dolphins 17

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Viking.com videos

Question: Do you expect to see more runs?

Matt Birk: ... maybe a couple more but you are who you are. This team is at it's best when you throw to set up the run.

Zim's coaching record with running (I'm sure many of you have seen it but here it is anyway):

20+ runs a game, record is 45-14
-20 runs a game, 0-16-1

The old "why run and try to win 13-10 in this new age NFL?" will come up.

When actually if we run well we can play action and get medium to deep shots with passing game.

Vikes 41 Dolphins 17

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Viking.com videos

Question: Do you expect to see more runs?

Matt Birk: ... maybe a couple more but you are who you are. This team is at it's best when you throw to set up the run.

Zim's coaching record with running (I'm sure many of you have seen it but here it is anyway):

20+ runs a game, record is 45-14
-20 runs a game, 0-16-1

The old "why run and try to win 13-10 in this new age NFL?" will come up.

When actually if we run well we can play action and get medium to deep shots with passing game.

Vikes 41 Dolphins 17

Wow! Don't make foolish forecasts like this just to attempt to prove you're a bigger Vikings fan than another. This is as close to insane as you possibly be.

Vikings 23 Dolphins 20

And this is a stretch predicting a Vikings victory.

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Viking.com videos

Question: Do you expect to see more runs?

Matt Birk: ... maybe a couple more but you are who you are. This team is at it's best when you throw to set up the run.

Zim's coaching record with running (I'm sure many of you have seen it but here it is anyway):

20+ runs a game, record is 45-14
-20 runs a game, 0-16-1

The old "why run and try to win 13-10 in this new age NFL?" will come up.

When actually if we run well we can play action and get medium to deep shots with passing game.

Vikes 41 Dolphins 17

Wow! Don't make foolish forecasts like this just to attempt to prove you're a bigger Vikings fan than another. This is as close to insane as you possibly be.

Vikings 23 Dolphins 20

And this is a stretch predicting a Vikings victory.

Who hurt you?

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Viking.com videos

Question: Do you expect to see more runs?

Matt Birk: ... maybe a couple more but you are who you are. This team is at it's best when you throw to set up the run.

Zim's coaching record with running (I'm sure many of you have seen it but here it is anyway):

20+ runs a game, record is 45-14
-20 runs a game, 0-16-1

The old "why run and try to win 13-10 in this new age NFL?" will come up.

When actually if we run well we can play action and get medium to deep shots with passing game.

Vikes 41 Dolphins 17

Wow! Don't make foolish forecasts like this just to attempt to prove you're a bigger Vikings fan than another. This is as close to insane as you possibly be.

Vikings 23 Dolphins 20

And this is a stretch predicting a Vikings victory.

Who hurt you?

The Vikings have scored exactly 41 points in their last three games including a victory vs. GB. Let's at least keep things in perspective. I suppose you could predict that Kirk Cousins will run for over 100 yards vs. Miami and score three TD rushing in doing so. And that would not be any more ridiculous.

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Viking.com videos

Question: Do you expect to see more runs?

Matt Birk: ... maybe a couple more but you are who you are. This team is at it's best when you throw to set up the run.

Zim's coaching record with running (I'm sure many of you have seen it but here it is anyway):

20+ runs a game, record is 45-14
-20 runs a game, 0-16-1

The old "why run and try to win 13-10 in this new age NFL?" will come up.

When actually if we run well we can play action and get medium to deep shots with passing game.

Vikes 41 Dolphins 17

Wow! Don't make foolish forecasts like this just to attempt to prove you're a bigger Vikings fan than another. This is as close to insane as you possibly be.

Vikings 23 Dolphins 20

And this is a stretch predicting a Vikings victory.

Who hurt you?

The Vikings have scored exactly 41 points in their last three games including a victory vs. GB. Let's at least keep things in perspective. I suppose you could predict that Kirk Cousins will run for over 100 yards vs. Miami and score three TD rushing in doing so. And that would not be any more ridiculous.

Like I'm only talking about this isolated post...

Mark, I've been posting with you for a long time (decades?), and the only time your posts aren't full of anger and bile is when you're talking about shooting tons of parakeets...

Do you enjoy sports at all? Ever?

If a team doesn't play an absolutely perfect game, do you only see the negatives?

It seems like a horrible way to be a "fan". What's the point?

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Nick Olson@NicholasJOlson
Stefon Diggs currently has 88 catches without a single drop.

That is the most catches without a drop in a single season that Pro Football Focus has ever recorded.

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Nick Olson@NicholasJOlson
Stefon Diggs currently has 88 catches without a single drop.

That is the most catches without a drop in a single season that Pro Football Focus has ever recorded.

Now that is impressive. What is the rating factor? Where do they draw the line for a "catch-able" ball? That has to be somewhat subjective. IOW, a ball that touches the hands could be considered a catch-able ball. However, what if the player leaps off the ground in order to reach the ball and it goes off his finger tips? Or similarly, what if the player catches that same difficult throw that most would say is NOT considered a catch-able ball? Does that catch get added to the total? Probably. But if the player were to not catch that throw, does that stop the streak?

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My 1 cent. (not worth 2).

When Turner left, and Shurmer took over, it was a breath of fresh air because I could no longer guess what the next play would be with any certainty, and neither could opposing defenses.

Then Shurmer went to NY and we got Flip. I hoped maybe we would see some of the creativity that Philly had last year. But after 1 half of the first game I thought, Turner is back at the helm. Not because Flip called the game like Turner, but because, like the Turner era, I was beginning to successfully guess what the next play call would be no matter what the situation. At the beginning of the season I thought perhaps Flip was just getting used to the tools at his disposal. I also didn't mind so much because we won more than we lost. But I got the horrible feeling that when we did well on offense it was because of the truly breathtaking skills of Theilen and Diggs and even Cook and Cousins to some extent, not to an OC creatively exploiting the strengths of all his players.

I'm going to be watching the Stefanski era with great interest because I'm hoping for a return to the unpredictability of the Shurmer era. After all, Shurmer wanted him as the Giants OC (very good sign to me).

FWIW, it seemed to me that Flip was unwilling or unable to bend his scheme to the skills of our players. I'm an old O-Line guy and unlike most of you I see a fair amount of skill in that group that has never been used as well as it was during the Shurmer era, especially in the running game. It's as though the way to get better is to strengthen the things at which you are weakest instead of perfecting the things that you do well. If you are not good at zone blocking don't use the game to practice your zone skills. (In fact don't even use the weekly practices to improve your weaknesses. Do that only in training camp.) If you've got a quy who excels in down blocking but is weak in handling a strong speed rusher in pass protection, don't put him on an island against Kalil Mack with a straight drop back.

I watched the Chiefs game last night with a couple of friends who are Chiefs fans and I couldn't help but notice, I believe there are a lot of weakness on that offense, but Andy Reid simply never calls any of the plays that would expose any of them. That Chief's offense is dynamite, but their defense will do them in...shades of the 98 Vikings.

Anyway if Stefanski turns it around, I won't be surprised. I'll be very, very happy.

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I know that we all plan on seeing more rushes this Sunday, but with the Dolphin's best corner out, it could be better going through the air. I see Morgan is still questionable. Whenever he is back and 100% I expect the running game to take off.

So my prediction is that the Vikings will throw the ball downfield more than in the past and will do well at home. I predict a one sided affair as the Dolphins are basking in their Miami Miracle. We all remember what happened after the Minnesota Miracle.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2018/12/14/18141537/miami-dolphins-minnesota-vikings-final-injury-reports