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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 9:37:37 AM   
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Anybody watching Pats/Texans... I was wondering if Pats schedule was making them look better than they are.

Their offense has really struggled... not much separation from receivers and dropped passes and Brady missing.

Could just be one game... but the juggernaut seems to have slowed.


They did begin with a joke a schedule. There's no doubt their receivers can't separate/lacking chemistry with Brady. But they'll be fine, they'll have their home game in December, now rather than getting the Titans or weaker Texans teams of year's past they'll get the Chiefs or this Watson led Texans team instead.

Their defense is legit, and they do seem to have a lull this time of year. They usually have one in September then again in the weeks 11-15 range.

I remember a few years ago when the Pats got off to a bad start with Brady looking old and thinking their time was up. Guess who won the Super Bowl that year? Guess who has won it again since that year? The Pats are not done until they don't make the Super Bowl and Brady retires and not a minute sooner.

Like the Spurs, in many ways. Plus, over time, they seem to get better at this time of year, not worse. They work people and plays in and always seem to peak at the right time. Something to emulate.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 9:41:56 AM   
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Our lack of wr depth is going to rear it's ugly head. We all discussed what a problem this could be if Diggs or AT went down. Diggs hasn't been the model of health throughout his career so hope like hell he doesn't get nicked up too.

Guess we'll get a close up look at Josh Gordon tonight. A guy we probably should have picked up. He's certainly no long term answer with all his off field issues but might have helped during this stretch with AT out.

We've managed thus far w/o AT let's hope Bisi and Treadwell can step up. Might see a lot of Irv tonight as well.

Except you can't even count on Gordon week to week, or even day to day. I hope he's doing better, but a mid-season cut from a tolerant, WR-needy team doesn't portend good things.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 9:43:16 AM   
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Anybody watching Pats/Texans... I was wondering if Pats schedule was making them look better than they are.

Their offense has really struggled... not much separation from receivers and dropped passes and Brady missing.

Could just be one game... but the juggernaut seems to have slowed.


They did begin with a joke a schedule. There's no doubt their receivers can't separate/lacking chemistry with Brady. But they'll be fine, they'll have their home game in December, now rather than getting the Titans or weaker Texans teams of year's past they'll get the Chiefs or this Watson led Texans team instead.

Their defense is legit, and they do seem to have a lull this time of year. They usually have one in September then again in the weeks 11-15 range.

I remember a few years ago when the Pats got off to a bad start with Brady looking old and thinking their time was up. Guess who won the Super Bowl that year? Guess who has won it again since that year? The Pats are not done until they don't make the Super Bowl and Brady retires and not a minute sooner.

Like the Spurs, in many ways. Plus, over time, they seem to get better at this time of year, not worse. They work people and plays in and always seem to peak at the right time. Something to emulate.

Great comparison. The Spurs rebuilt around Duncan about as many times as the Pats rebuilt around Brady. Heading to the finish line, some teams just know how to rise to it, no matter what has happened earlier in the year.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 10:59:15 AM   
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Lose tonight and we likely go on to be the 6th seed in playoffs at best and play first game on road against 3 seed Green Bay...
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 11:00:38 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 11:11:11 AM   
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Lose tonight and we likely go on to be the 6th seed in playoffs at best and play first game on road against 3 seed Green Bay...

Win tonight and you might have to find a new schtick going forward........(at least temporarily)
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 11:20:22 AM   
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Lose tonight and we likely go on to be the 6th seed in playoffs at best and play first game on road against 3 seed Green Bay...

Win tonight and you might have to find a new schtick going forward........(at least temporarily)

Win tonight and I will add another lil block to that Lego house of trust and respect I am building for Kirk Cousins...

Biggest problem being a Viking fan is just when you think you have built a masterpiece someone comes along and knocks the whole damn thing off the table...


Something to ponder... Seahawks are 55-0 when leading by 4+ at halftime
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 11:40:48 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 11:42:41 AM   
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Lose tonight and we likely go on to be the 6th seed in playoffs at best and play first game on road against 3 seed Green Bay...

Win tonight and you might have to find a new schtick going forward........(at least temporarily)

Win tonight and I will add another lil block to that Lego house of trust and respect I am building for Kirk Cousins...

Biggest problem being a Viking fan is just when you think you have built a masterpiece someone comes along and knocks the whole damn thing off the table...


Something to ponder... Seahawks are 55-0 when leading by 4+ at halftime


It is possible the Vikings win this game, but it will take everyone playing at their best. The Seahawks have been winning a lot of close games this year and have lost two at the vaunted "clam shell". I don't know how the weather is going to hold up, but so far it's a nice day here in Seattle. (I've been here a few days, funeral for one of my younger brothers, sad times indeed)

For the Vikings to win, the coaches cant get outcoached, the defense will have to get consistent pressure up the middle and we will need to run the ball over the 100 yard mark. I also feel the TE's will need to combine for 10 or more catches and Cousins will need to stay hot. Its a tough place to play and the Seahawks are the best team we will play on our schedule this year, so there can be no fainted effort as we have seen in the past. These guys either come out ready for the fight, or they will fall behind quick and the crowd will get insane.

I'm not sure anyone had this game marked down as a victory when the schedule came out, but it's not impossible. I fly back to Shanghai in the morning and I'd love to be leaving Seattle with a smile on my face!! Go Vikes, SKOL
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 11:49:36 AM   
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Lose tonight and we likely go on to be the 6th seed in playoffs at best and play first game on road against 3 seed Green Bay...

Win tonight and you might have to find a new schtick going forward........(at least temporarily)

Win tonight and I will add another lil block to that Lego house of trust and respect I am building for Kirk Cousins...

Biggest problem being a Viking fan is just when you think you have built a masterpiece someone comes along and knocks the whole damn thing off the table...


Something to ponder... Seahawks are 55-0 when leading by 4+ at halftime


It is possible the Vikings win this game, but it will take everyone playing at their best. The Seahawks have been winning a lot of close games this year and have lost two at the vaunted "clam shell". I don't know how the weather is going to hold up, but so far it's a nice day here in Seattle. (I've been here a few days, funeral for one of my younger brothers, sad times indeed)

For the Vikings to win, the coaches cant get outcoached, the defense will have to get consistent pressure up the middle and we will need to run the ball over the 100 yard mark. I also feel the TE's will need to combine for 10 or more catches and Cousins will need to stay hot. Its a tough place to play and the Seahawks are the best team we will play on our schedule this year, so there can be no fainted effort as we have seen in the past. These guys either come out ready for the fight, or they will fall behind quick and the crowd will get insane.

I'm not sure anyone had this game marked down as a victory when the schedule came out, but it's not impossible. I fly back to Shanghai in the morning and I'd love to be leaving Seattle with a smile on my face!! Go Vikes, SKOL

Sorry to hear of your loss Dana, hope the Vikes can pull off a win and give you that smile!

Make no mistake this is a playoff game atmosphere with huge implications... Go out and take this game and we all will be smiling Tuesday morning!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 11:55:27 AM   
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Seattle is an easy pick in this one. Seattle 30, Vikings 20

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 12:13:46 PM   
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Seattle is an easy pick in this one. Seattle 30, Vikings 20

Seattle is a tough place to play. I'd like our chances more with Theilen out there. I'm gonna say Seattle 27 Vikings 20. I think we will fight hard but expecting a win here is probably not a good bet. Lose and I agree the 6th seed will be the only landing spot.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 12:13:46 PM   
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Last time we won in Seattle was 2009 with Favre...

Score was 35 to 9 that day...

Would love some of that mojo tonight, but have a real sense that score could as easily be flipped...
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 12:21:46 PM   
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Lose tonight and we likely go on to be the 6th seed in playoffs at best and play first game on road against 3 seed Green Bay...

Win tonight and you might have to find a new schtick going forward........(at least temporarily)

Win tonight and I will add another lil block to that Lego house of trust and respect I am building for Kirk Cousins...

Biggest problem being a Viking fan is just when you think you have built a masterpiece someone comes along and knocks the whole damn thing off the table...


Something to ponder... Seahawks are 55-0 when leading by 4+ at halftime


It is possible the Vikings win this game, but it will take everyone playing at their best. The Seahawks have been winning a lot of close games this year and have lost two at the vaunted "clam shell". I don't know how the weather is going to hold up, but so far it's a nice day here in Seattle. (I've been here a few days, funeral for one of my younger brothers, sad times indeed)

For the Vikings to win, the coaches cant get outcoached, the defense will have to get consistent pressure up the middle and we will need to run the ball over the 100 yard mark. I also feel the TE's will need to combine for 10 or more catches and Cousins will need to stay hot. Its a tough place to play and the Seahawks are the best team we will play on our schedule this year, so there can be no fainted effort as we have seen in the past. These guys either come out ready for the fight, or they will fall behind quick and the crowd will get insane.

I'm not sure anyone had this game marked down as a victory when the schedule came out, but it's not impossible. I fly back to Shanghai in the morning and I'd love to be leaving Seattle with a smile on my face!! Go Vikes, SKOL

So sorry to hear about your brother.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 12:22:06 PM   
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Anybody watching Pats/Texans... I was wondering if Pats schedule was making them look better than they are.

Their offense has really struggled... not much separation from receivers and dropped passes and Brady missing.

Could just be one game... but the juggernaut seems to have slowed.


They did begin with a joke a schedule. There's no doubt their receivers can't separate/lacking chemistry with Brady. But they'll be fine, they'll have their home game in December, now rather than getting the Titans or weaker Texans teams of year's past they'll get the Chiefs or this Watson led Texans team instead.

Their defense is legit, and they do seem to have a lull this time of year. They usually have one in September then again in the weeks 11-15 range.

I remember a few years ago when the Pats got off to a bad start with Brady looking old and thinking their time was up. Guess who won the Super Bowl that year? Guess who has won it again since that year? The Pats are not done until they don't make the Super Bowl and Brady retires and not a minute sooner.

Like the Spurs, in many ways. Plus, over time, they seem to get better at this time of year, not worse. They work people and plays in and always seem to peak at the right time. Something to emulate.


I've come full circle and actually hope for the Pats to make it to the Super Bowl again just to see how long Brady can stave off the inevitable end. There is quite a bit of drama in that, methinks, at this point. Like one figures, eh, Mahomes will surely get there at some point. He has a long career ahead of him. But with Brady, one thinks...hey, maybe I'm not worthless because I'm getting old! Look at Brady still going!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 12:23:57 PM   
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Lose tonight and we likely go on to be the 6th seed in playoffs at best and play first game on road against 3 seed Green Bay...

Win tonight and you might have to find a new schtick going forward........(at least temporarily)

Win tonight and I will add another lil block to that Lego house of trust and respect I am building for Kirk Cousins...

Biggest problem being a Viking fan is just when you think you have built a masterpiece someone comes along and knocks the whole damn thing off the table...


Something to ponder... Seahawks are 55-0 when leading by 4+ at halftime


It is possible the Vikings win this game, but it will take everyone playing at their best. The Seahawks have been winning a lot of close games this year and have lost two at the vaunted "clam shell". I don't know how the weather is going to hold up, but so far it's a nice day here in Seattle. (I've been here a few days, funeral for one of my younger brothers, sad times indeed)

For the Vikings to win, the coaches cant get outcoached, the defense will have to get consistent pressure up the middle and we will need to run the ball over the 100 yard mark. I also feel the TE's will need to combine for 10 or more catches and Cousins will need to stay hot. Its a tough place to play and the Seahawks are the best team we will play on our schedule this year, so there can be no fainted effort as we have seen in the past. These guys either come out ready for the fight, or they will fall behind quick and the crowd will get insane.

I'm not sure anyone had this game marked down as a victory when the schedule came out, but it's not impossible. I fly back to Shanghai in the morning and I'd love to be leaving Seattle with a smile on my face!! Go Vikes, SKOL

I would add that the defensive backfield has to be better. That may include the LBs, so it may be fortuitous that Gedeon is out (don't wish injury on anybody, though, especially not a concussion that lasts over two weeks).
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 12:25:32 PM   
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I'm shocked at the three posters who have recently predicted a loss; never saw it coming from those stalwarts of optimism........
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 12:29:03 PM   
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Seattle is an easy pick in this one. Seattle 30, Vikings 20

Seattle is a tough place to play. I'd like our chances more with Theilen out there. I'm gonna say Seattle 27 Vikings 20. I think we will fight hard but expecting a win here is probably not a good bet. Lose and I agree the 6th seed will be the only landing spot.


I decided to be optimistic and pick the Vikings this game, even though pretty much all of the facts point to a loss. It seems like every year we have a game we should clearly lose that we end up winning, so maybe this will be that game. So basically, I'm just banking on the any-given-Sunday principle.

If we win, I figure we have to get in the neighborhood of 28 points. Our defense is kaput. We also can't get in a habit of being happy with field goals. We need to be aggressive in the red zone and maybe even burn a fourth down or two to try for a TD rather than a FG. Wilson can erase two FGs with one deep throw.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 12:31:29 PM   
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I'm shocked at the three posters who have recently predicted a loss; never saw it coming from those stalwarts of optimism........

I'm trying to call the game honestly. It's a tall order to get a W in Seattle even though they seem a little more vulnerable this season. It's not like I've predicted losses all that much this year. I predicted a loss to the Packers and that's about it. I may have predicted a loss after the Bears game too. So 2 losses tops. Man I'm such a piece of crap I guess. I really hope we get a W tonight. I won't be shocked if we dont.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 12:36:07 PM   
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Seattle is an easy pick in this one. Seattle 30, Vikings 20

Seattle is a tough place to play. I'd like our chances more with Theilen out there. I'm gonna say Seattle 27 Vikings 20. I think we will fight hard but expecting a win here is probably not a good bet. Lose and I agree the 6th seed will be the only landing spot.


I decided to be optimistic and pick the Vikings this game, even though pretty much all of the facts point to a loss. It seems like every year we have a game we should clearly lose that we end up winning, so maybe this will be that game. So basically, I'm just banking on the any-given-Sunday principle.

If we win, I figure we have to get in the neighborhood of 28 points. Our defense is kaput. We also can't get in a habit of being happy with field goals. We need to be aggressive in the red zone and maybe even burn a fourth down or two to try for a TD rather than a FG. Wilson can erase two FGs with one deep throw.

I like this post! I'd love to see us go for TDs if it's close instead of kicking fgs. If our defense can return to form the sky is the limit! Let's hope they figured stuff out on the bye.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 12:39:23 PM   
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We flat out need to show up from the opening KO and punch them in the mouth all night.

This is not a spot we do well in. Zim needs to have this team ready to play.

Game plan needs to be aggressive on both sides of the ball.

Make no mistake about it if we come out sleep walking we will get bitch slapped.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 12:45:27 PM   
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Seattle is an easy pick in this one. Seattle 30, Vikings 20

Seattle is a tough place to play. I'd like our chances more with Theilen out there. I'm gonna say Seattle 27 Vikings 20. I think we will fight hard but expecting a win here is probably not a good bet. Lose and I agree the 6th seed will be the only landing spot.


I decided to be optimistic and pick the Vikings this game, even though pretty much all of the facts point to a loss. It seems like every year we have a game we should clearly lose that we end up winning, so maybe this will be that game. So basically, I'm just banking on the any-given-Sunday principle.

If we win, I figure we have to get in the neighborhood of 28 points. Our defense is kaput. We also can't get in a habit of being happy with field goals. We need to be aggressive in the red zone and maybe even burn a fourth down or two to try for a TD rather than a FG. Wilson can erase two FGs with one deep throw.

I like this post! I'd love to see us go for TDs if it's close instead of kicking fgs. If our defense can return to form the sky is the limit! Let's hope they figured stuff out on the bye.


Zimmer's previous love affair with field goals is one of the first things that turned me off on him. It seemed like when we got into the redzone, our mentality was, okay, we got three points in our pocket. Let's not screw that up.

I remember checking in on the radio with the 2015 playoff game against Seattle because I wasn't at home and thinking...man, all these FGs are going to bite us. Why don't we go for it on fourth down and try for a TD? We have this awesome defense. Seattle is not doing squat. Make them try to go 95 yards if we blow it, but nope...

Sure enough, Wilson then gets a TD and poof...all those lovely FGs didn't mean much. Yeah, the Blair Walsh miss sucked, but I would have liked to see more aggression to ice the game earlier. But, whatever...hindsight.

Point being, offense needs to win the game tonight. We can't play conservative and think the defense is going to come through for us. If we lose, as least go down swinging on offense. Take some shots. If it fails, we are playing with house money anyway. The odds are against us.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 1:24:47 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 1:41:18 PM   
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Mild surprise

Thought it would be Davion Davis or possibly Mitchell

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/2/2019 1:47:28 PM   
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This is the last regular season game the Vikings have that, in theory, could be affected by weather in any meaningful way. According to our friends from WeatherNation, however, it doesn’t appear that’s going to happen. The rain should stop in the early hours of Monday morning, and by the time kickoff rolls around, temperatures will be in the lower 40s with no real winds to speak of.
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