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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Totally not seeing what the Browns are seeing in Stefanski.

Not a great play caller but perhaps he's been around long enough to delegate authority as a HC.

If he plans to have a defacto OC and call plays Things could sideways in a hurry.

browns problem now.

Another thing I don't get is not letting their new GM hire whom he chooses as HC.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

The OL was getting killed in the running game as well. Thielen said the interception was on him.

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

The OL was getting killed in the running game as well. Thielen said the interception was on him.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

The OL was getting killed in the running game as well. Thielen said the interception was on him.

Sherman in the post game interview was acting like he made such an awesome game changing int. Cousins threw it right to him about the only credit he deserves is for not dropping it.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

Look, no true fan should want Cousins or any QB to fail

Trust me, I was as happy as anyone that we got Cousins
Thought he was the best option at the time
Doesn’t prevent me from calling what I see
As much as he should be praised for his effort vs the Saints, he should bear the criticism when he plays very average to poor. And that’s what he’s done a lot of the time here
He got paid 84 mil to make plays, not crumble at the first sign of pressure
The reality is this team is no better than before he got here
You pay someone that kind of money to improve things, not just play to others level
Listen to Zimmer yesterday where he talks about the ball not coming out
Sometimes a QB creates his own pressure

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

In total, the Steelers limited the Vikings to Super Bowl record lows of nine first downs, 119 total offensive yards, 17 rushing yards, and no offensive scores....

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

Look, no true fan should want Cousins or any QB to fail

Trust me, I was as happy as anyone that we got Cousins
Thought he was the best option at the time
Doesn’t prevent me from calling what I see
As much as he should be praised for his effort vs the Saints, he should bear the criticism when he plays very average to poor. And that’s what he’s done a lot of the time here
He got paid 84 mil to make plays, not crumble at the first sign of pressure
The reality is this team is no better than before he got here
You pay someone that kind of money to improve things, not just play to others level
Listen to Zimmer yesterday where he talks about the ball not coming out
Sometimes a QB creates his own pressure

The Vikings realized that the Superbowl window was open, so they rolled the dice on Cousins hoping that he would get them to the top. Can't really fault them for it, but it didn't happen. Now at almost $5 mil over the cap, the window has definitely closed. So the question is, are the Vikings going to grasp at straws trying to fill in the pieces around aging studs, or are they going to accept the fact that they need to go into full rebuilding mode next year? If they were smart, they'd jettison Griffin, Rudolph, Waynes, Rhodes and Reiff, and try to trade Cook, Barr, and Kendricks. Cousins and his $28 mil salary will be off the books after next year as well. Go get our QBOTF in the first round of the draft and look towards 2021 to start being competitive again.

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ORIGINAL: MDK

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

In total, the Steelers limited the Vikings to Super Bowl record lows of nine first downs, 119 total offensive yards, 17 rushing yards, and no offensive scores....

Never forget the cover of SI after the game.......the entire defensive line with arms raised making descending on Fran making it impossible to pass.

Thank you Bill for reopening that painful wound and pouring salt into it.

Still can't forget our SB game against the Raiders......We stop them and force them to punt. We block the first punt in Ray Guy's career and recover inside the 5 yard line. On the second play, Brent McClanahan fumbled, the Raiders drove down the field and scored and crushed the Vikings in their worst SB defeat.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

Look, no true fan should want Cousins or any QB to fail

Trust me, I was as happy as anyone that we got Cousins
Thought he was the best option at the time
Doesn’t prevent me from calling what I see
As much as he should be praised for his effort vs the Saints, he should bear the criticism when he plays very average to poor. And that’s what he’s done a lot of the time here
He got paid 84 mil to make plays, not crumble at the first sign of pressure
The reality is this team is no better than before he got here
You pay someone that kind of money to improve things, not just play to others level
Listen to Zimmer yesterday where he talks about the ball not coming out
Sometimes a QB creates his own pressure

The Vikings realized that the Superbowl window was open, so they rolled the dice on Cousins hoping that he would get them to the top. Can't really fault them for it, but it didn't happen. Now at almost $5 mil over the cap, the window has definitely closed. So the question is, are the Vikings going to grasp at straws trying to fill in the pieces around aging studs, or are they going to accept the fact that they need to go into full rebuilding mode next year? If they were smart, they'd jettison Griffin, Rudolph, Waynes, Rhodes and Reiff, and try to trade Cook, Barr, and Kendricks. Cousins and his $28 mil salary will be off the books after next year as well. Go get our QBOTF in the first round of the draft and look towards 2021 to start being competitive again.

What the???

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

Look, no true fan should want Cousins or any QB to fail

Trust me, I was as happy as anyone that we got Cousins
Thought he was the best option at the time
Doesn’t prevent me from calling what I see
As much as he should be praised for his effort vs the Saints, he should bear the criticism when he plays very average to poor. And that’s what he’s done a lot of the time here
He got paid 84 mil to make plays, not crumble at the first sign of pressure
The reality is this team is no better than before he got here
You pay someone that kind of money to improve things, not just play to others level
Listen to Zimmer yesterday where he talks about the ball not coming out
Sometimes a QB creates his own pressure

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

It's hard to know exactly who had how much control of what happened on offense. Between Zimmer, Kubiak, and Stefanski it's a 3 headed monster and I have a feeling Zimmer probably kept Stef from getting too creative. However, if Stef was primarily responsible this season and yesterday, I won't miss him. On the other hand, if he's the genius that many people say he is and we kept Zimmer while letting him walk, we are a stupid franchise.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

No doubt losing Teddy hurt, but the primary way was not having an adequate backup and then going all-in on Bradford. That first rounder, which would probably have been higher if we'd just accepted our fate instead of trading so much for an overrated QB, would have put us in a position to get Mahomes or Watson, either directly with a worse record or via trade. Another blown first-rounder by Spielman.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

No doubt losing Teddy hurt, but the primary way was not having an adequate backup and then going all-in on Bradford. That first rounder, which would probably have been higher if we'd just accepted our fate instead of trading so much for an overrated QB, would have put us in a position to get Mahomes or Watson, either directly with a worse record or via trade. Another blown first-rounder by Spielman.

I agree. As a GM, I suppose it's the mindset that the window is now, can't wait on an uncertain rookie QB. Plus, I'm guessing NFL draft prospect Mahomes (or Watson) isn't the prototype of what Zimmer looks for in a QB, which gets back to what some have criticized about Zimmer and his old school ways.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

It's hard to know exactly who had how much control of what happened on offense. Between Zimmer, Kubiak, and Stefanski it's a 3 headed monster and I have a feeling Zimmer probably kept Stef from getting too creative. However, if Stef was primarily responsible this season and yesterday, I won't miss him. On the other hand, if he's the genius that many people say he is and we kept Zimmer while letting him walk, we are a stupid franchise.

We did it before with Chilly and Mike Tomlin.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

It's hard to know exactly who had how much control of what happened on offense. Between Zimmer, Kubiak, and Stefanski it's a 3 headed monster and I have a feeling Zimmer probably kept Stef from getting too creative. However, if Stef was primarily responsible this season and yesterday, I won't miss him. On the other hand, if he's the genius that many people say he is and we kept Zimmer while letting him walk, we are a stupid franchise.

We did it before with Chilly and Mike Tomlin.

Green and Dungy?