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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

Look, no true fan should want Cousins or any QB to fail

Trust me, I was as happy as anyone that we got Cousins
Thought he was the best option at the time
Doesn’t prevent me from calling what I see
As much as he should be praised for his effort vs the Saints, he should bear the criticism when he plays very average to poor. And that’s what he’s done a lot of the time here
He got paid 84 mil to make plays, not crumble at the first sign of pressure
The reality is this team is no better than before he got here
You pay someone that kind of money to improve things, not just play to others level
Listen to Zimmer yesterday where he talks about the ball not coming out
Sometimes a QB creates his own pressure

The Vikings realized that the Superbowl window was open, so they rolled the dice on Cousins hoping that he would get them to the top. Can't really fault them for it, but it didn't happen. Now at almost $5 mil over the cap, the window has definitely closed. So the question is, are the Vikings going to grasp at straws trying to fill in the pieces around aging studs, or are they going to accept the fact that they need to go into full rebuilding mode next year? If they were smart, they'd jettison Griffin, Rudolph, Waynes, Rhodes and Reiff, and try to trade Cook, Barr, and Kendricks. Cousins and his $28 mil salary will be off the books after next year as well. Go get our QBOTF in the first round of the draft and look towards 2021 to start being competitive again.

What the???

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

Look, no true fan should want Cousins or any QB to fail

Trust me, I was as happy as anyone that we got Cousins
Thought he was the best option at the time
Doesn’t prevent me from calling what I see
As much as he should be praised for his effort vs the Saints, he should bear the criticism when he plays very average to poor. And that’s what he’s done a lot of the time here
He got paid 84 mil to make plays, not crumble at the first sign of pressure
The reality is this team is no better than before he got here
You pay someone that kind of money to improve things, not just play to others level
Listen to Zimmer yesterday where he talks about the ball not coming out
Sometimes a QB creates his own pressure

The Vikings realized that the Superbowl window was open, so they rolled the dice on Cousins hoping that he would get them to the top. Can't really fault them for it, but it didn't happen. Now at almost $5 mil over the cap, the window has definitely closed. So the question is, are the Vikings going to grasp at straws trying to fill in the pieces around aging studs, or are they going to accept the fact that they need to go into full rebuilding mode next year? If they were smart, they'd jettison Griffin, Rudolph, Waynes, Rhodes and Reiff, and try to trade Cook, Barr, and Kendricks. Cousins and his $28 mil salary will be off the books after next year as well. Go get our QBOTF in the first round of the draft and look towards 2021 to start being competitive again.

What the???

Rebuild. This team is going nowhere next year. Dump overpriced salaries now, and trade what few valuable assets we have while they’re at their most valuable.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Let Spielman and Zimmer earn extensions by doing better next year. Spielman has spent a bunch of draft capital on CBs, and we were bad at CB this year, and minimal draft capital on the OL, which ended our season and is a glaring problem going back years. He's also done some good things, but he seems to have us stuck at mediocre. Seems like a good guy, just like Zimmer, but neither should get extensions unless the team can improve next year, specifically at CB and OL.

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

Look, no true fan should want Cousins or any QB to fail

Trust me, I was as happy as anyone that we got Cousins
Thought he was the best option at the time
Doesn’t prevent me from calling what I see
As much as he should be praised for his effort vs the Saints, he should bear the criticism when he plays very average to poor. And that’s what he’s done a lot of the time here
He got paid 84 mil to make plays, not crumble at the first sign of pressure
The reality is this team is no better than before he got here
You pay someone that kind of money to improve things, not just play to others level
Listen to Zimmer yesterday where he talks about the ball not coming out
Sometimes a QB creates his own pressure

The Vikings realized that the Superbowl window was open, so they rolled the dice on Cousins hoping that he would get them to the top. Can't really fault them for it, but it didn't happen. Now at almost $5 mil over the cap, the window has definitely closed. So the question is, are the Vikings going to grasp at straws trying to fill in the pieces around aging studs, or are they going to accept the fact that they need to go into full rebuilding mode next year? If they were smart, they'd jettison Griffin, Rudolph, Waynes, Rhodes and Reiff, and try to trade Cook, Barr, and Kendricks. Cousins and his $28 mil salary will be off the books after next year as well. Go get our QBOTF in the first round of the draft and look towards 2021 to start being competitive again.

What the???

Rebuild. This team is going nowhere next year. Dump overpriced salaries now, and trade what few valuable assets we have while they’re at their most valuable.

If we're doing that we need Zimmer and Spielman gone today. I don't want either around for a rebuild when they could never assemble an offensive line for their throwback offense.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

He was, but he started to drift with steady ranting about Teddy. If he went away and got more bitter, this could be him.

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

Look, no true fan should want Cousins or any QB to fail

Trust me, I was as happy as anyone that we got Cousins
Thought he was the best option at the time
Doesn’t prevent me from calling what I see
As much as he should be praised for his effort vs the Saints, he should bear the criticism when he plays very average to poor. And that’s what he’s done a lot of the time here
He got paid 84 mil to make plays, not crumble at the first sign of pressure
The reality is this team is no better than before he got here
You pay someone that kind of money to improve things, not just play to others level
Listen to Zimmer yesterday where he talks about the ball not coming out
Sometimes a QB creates his own pressure

The Vikings realized that the Superbowl window was open, so they rolled the dice on Cousins hoping that he would get them to the top. Can't really fault them for it, but it didn't happen. Now at almost $5 mil over the cap, the window has definitely closed. So the question is, are the Vikings going to grasp at straws trying to fill in the pieces around aging studs, or are they going to accept the fact that they need to go into full rebuilding mode next year? If they were smart, they'd jettison Griffin, Rudolph, Waynes, Rhodes and Reiff, and try to trade Cook, Barr, and Kendricks. Cousins and his $28 mil salary will be off the books after next year as well. Go get our QBOTF in the first round of the draft and look towards 2021 to start being competitive again.

What the???

Rebuild. This team is going nowhere next year. Dump overpriced salaries now, and trade what few valuable assets we have while they’re at their most valuable.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

If next year starts bad pulling a Miami would be the smart move.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

Look, no true fan should want Cousins or any QB to fail

Trust me, I was as happy as anyone that we got Cousins
Thought he was the best option at the time
Doesn’t prevent me from calling what I see
As much as he should be praised for his effort vs the Saints, he should bear the criticism when he plays very average to poor. And that’s what he’s done a lot of the time here
He got paid 84 mil to make plays, not crumble at the first sign of pressure
The reality is this team is no better than before he got here
You pay someone that kind of money to improve things, not just play to others level
Listen to Zimmer yesterday where he talks about the ball not coming out
Sometimes a QB creates his own pressure

The Vikings realized that the Superbowl window was open, so they rolled the dice on Cousins hoping that he would get them to the top. Can't really fault them for it, but it didn't happen. Now at almost $5 mil over the cap, the window has definitely closed. So the question is, are the Vikings going to grasp at straws trying to fill in the pieces around aging studs, or are they going to accept the fact that they need to go into full rebuilding mode next year? If they were smart, they'd jettison Griffin, Rudolph, Waynes, Rhodes and Reiff, and try to trade Cook, Barr, and Kendricks. Cousins and his $28 mil salary will be off the books after next year as well. Go get our QBOTF in the first round of the draft and look towards 2021 to start being competitive again.

What the???

Rebuild. This team is going nowhere next year. Dump overpriced salaries now, and trade what few valuable assets we have while they’re at their most valuable.

Never worked for Calvin Griffith.

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

It's hard to know exactly who had how much control of what happened on offense. Between Zimmer, Kubiak, and Stefanski it's a 3 headed monster and I have a feeling Zimmer probably kept Stef from getting too creative. However, if Stef was primarily responsible this season and yesterday, I won't miss him. On the other hand, if he's the genius that many people say he is and we kept Zimmer while letting him walk, we are a stupid franchise.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

Look, no true fan should want Cousins or any QB to fail

Trust me, I was as happy as anyone that we got Cousins
Thought he was the best option at the time
Doesn’t prevent me from calling what I see
As much as he should be praised for his effort vs the Saints, he should bear the criticism when he plays very average to poor. And that’s what he’s done a lot of the time here
He got paid 84 mil to make plays, not crumble at the first sign of pressure
The reality is this team is no better than before he got here
You pay someone that kind of money to improve things, not just play to others level
Listen to Zimmer yesterday where he talks about the ball not coming out
Sometimes a QB creates his own pressure

The Vikings realized that the Superbowl window was open, so they rolled the dice on Cousins hoping that he would get them to the top. Can't really fault them for it, but it didn't happen. Now at almost $5 mil over the cap, the window has definitely closed. So the question is, are the Vikings going to grasp at straws trying to fill in the pieces around aging studs, or are they going to accept the fact that they need to go into full rebuilding mode next year? If they were smart, they'd jettison Griffin, Rudolph, Waynes, Rhodes and Reiff, and try to trade Cook, Barr, and Kendricks. Cousins and his $28 mil salary will be off the books after next year as well. Go get our QBOTF in the first round of the draft and look towards 2021 to start being competitive again.

What the???

Rebuild. This team is going nowhere next year. Dump overpriced salaries now, and trade what few valuable assets we have while they’re at their most valuable.

Never worked for Calvin Griffith.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

Look, no true fan should want Cousins or any QB to fail

Trust me, I was as happy as anyone that we got Cousins
Thought he was the best option at the time
Doesn’t prevent me from calling what I see
As much as he should be praised for his effort vs the Saints, he should bear the criticism when he plays very average to poor. And that’s what he’s done a lot of the time here
He got paid 84 mil to make plays, not crumble at the first sign of pressure
The reality is this team is no better than before he got here
You pay someone that kind of money to improve things, not just play to others level
Listen to Zimmer yesterday where he talks about the ball not coming out
Sometimes a QB creates his own pressure

The Vikings realized that the Superbowl window was open, so they rolled the dice on Cousins hoping that he would get them to the top. Can't really fault them for it, but it didn't happen. Now at almost $5 mil over the cap, the window has definitely closed. So the question is, are the Vikings going to grasp at straws trying to fill in the pieces around aging studs, or are they going to accept the fact that they need to go into full rebuilding mode next year? If they were smart, they'd jettison Griffin, Rudolph, Waynes, Rhodes and Reiff, and try to trade Cook, Barr, and Kendricks. Cousins and his $28 mil salary will be off the books after next year as well. Go get our QBOTF in the first round of the draft and look towards 2021 to start being competitive again.

What the???

Rebuild. This team is going nowhere next year. Dump overpriced salaries now, and trade what few valuable assets we have while they’re at their most valuable.

Never worked for Calvin Griffith.

You seem to be implying that there was an overpaid player while Calvin Griffith was owner.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Pretty good article. Sums up my feelings pretty well
In a silo Cousins a “good” QB
Team has worse record comparing last 2 years vs 2 years prior
Signing a guy like that impacts your ability to improve in other areas
The online got worse as the game went on, but 1st half was very good. Just missed throws
Even Zimmer said yesterday he wasn’t sure why the ball didnt come out
About half the sacks yesterday were on the QB

http://www.startribune.com/kirk-cousins-the-playmaker-was-left-behind-in-new-orleans/566916312/

O-Line was horrible throughout. When was Cousins supposed to get rid of it when guys were on him as he reached the peak of his drop. Your narrative is tired.

BTW, you've never addressed where you came from or why 95% of your posts consist of bleating about Cousins and Zimmer. Are you Andy Lowe?

Andy Lowe was a solid poster, wasn't he?

Look, no true fan should want Cousins or any QB to fail

Trust me, I was as happy as anyone that we got Cousins
Thought he was the best option at the time
Doesn’t prevent me from calling what I see
As much as he should be praised for his effort vs the Saints, he should bear the criticism when he plays very average to poor. And that’s what he’s done a lot of the time here
He got paid 84 mil to make plays, not crumble at the first sign of pressure
The reality is this team is no better than before he got here
You pay someone that kind of money to improve things, not just play to others level
Listen to Zimmer yesterday where he talks about the ball not coming out
Sometimes a QB creates his own pressure

The Vikings realized that the Superbowl window was open, so they rolled the dice on Cousins hoping that he would get them to the top. Can't really fault them for it, but it didn't happen. Now at almost $5 mil over the cap, the window has definitely closed. So the question is, are the Vikings going to grasp at straws trying to fill in the pieces around aging studs, or are they going to accept the fact that they need to go into full rebuilding mode next year? If they were smart, they'd jettison Griffin, Rudolph, Waynes, Rhodes and Reiff, and try to trade Cook, Barr, and Kendricks. Cousins and his $28 mil salary will be off the books after next year as well. Go get our QBOTF in the first round of the draft and look towards 2021 to start being competitive again.

What the???

Rebuild. This team is going nowhere next year. Dump overpriced salaries now, and trade what few valuable assets we have while they’re at their most valuable.

Never worked for Calvin Griffith.

One of the worst moments of my life was bumping into Calvin in the lockerroom at a golf course where I worked. Literally running into him while he stepped around a corner as he was leaving the shower area. Naked. Ran into Calvin Griffith, frontally, while he was naked and wet. I'm descending back into PTSD as I type this.....

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Do you think Kubiak will accept the offensive coordinator job? He seemed happy with his role last year. Maybe he prefers to mentor the next young buck. I don't know.

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/12/george-edwards-isnt-returning-to-the-vikings/


No OC

No DC

Zimmer gets clean slate to do it his way next year? Guess it was all Georges fault our defense sucked and Zimm had to let him go... When will Zimm stop running off coordinators and look in the mirror himself ?

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Draft order finalized. I thought it might have been #26, so we lucked there.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/1/12/21063220/nfl-draft-order-vikings-spot-finalized

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Draft order finalized. I thought it might have been #26, so we lucked there.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/1/12/21063220/nfl-draft-order-vikings-spot-finalized

First order of business is trading down to collect some more 4th rounders......