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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

One thing is for sure, we need to show up at the beginning of games if we are going to have a successful season. We drop behind 21-zip in the first 16 minutes of the game, alful tough to instill hope when you have to score four times against any NFL team, much less GB in their place. So, this is another glaring flaw in this team and it needs to be corrected. It has been brought up over the past couple of years, so it's not new, but what to do about it is apparently a mystery. I'm thinking there needs to be better analysis done to get to the cause of these starts, there must be something common between them, but there have been too many to ignore and slough it off to a bad game.

This is another serious issue that needs to be fixed, just to get us on an even playing field at the start of important games, and lets face it, any given Sunday you can get beat by an inferior team.

It feels like Zimmer comes into the game with a 'let's see what they do' gameplan. How about instead you ANTICIPATE what they might be looking to do. Better yet, come up with three or four likely gameplan scenarios for what the opponent is likely to come out with and have answers for each. Last week, one of those likely scenarios could have been 'Devante Adams is their best player so maybe they'll be trying to go to him early and often - if so - DOUBLE HIM'.

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

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ORIGINAL: drviking

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Well on Sirius NFL yesterday a caller-in asked Bob Papa and Charlie Wiess to compare the body language of Minshew to Kirk Cousins. It's pretty standard on Sirius NFL to never disparage a GM, coach, or player yet Coach Wiess went into detail on what he doesn't like about Cousins' attitude when things go wrong. He also cited Cousins' record against winning teams and his record in prime time.

I was all for the signing of Cousins. I thought he was a great QB and certainly good enough to win a Super Bowl with the defense we already have in place. It's really starting to look like I was incorrect and that we bought a lemon.

starting to look that way,

we KNEW case was fool's gold, so KFC was the correct move at the time, but it just doesnt look like it is going to work, just like Favre, it was worth a shot....Favre was way more fun


IF Teddy does well, maybe we can rent Brees for one year

I do believe that Cousins was the correct move at the time, although I was a skeptic at the time. I truly believe he has solid arm talent, but after that, he's got a couple flaws that are very hard, if not impossible, to fix. He can be taught to move his feet and shuffle, but he cant be taught to "feel" the pressure. You either have that ability or you don't. The other, and even more important in my view, is his mental strength. His body language when things are going wrong says a lot about his mental makeup.

I get it, we have him for the next two years, but we need to find his replacement and start grooming that guy to be our next QB. I am sure the Viking brass was just like a lot of us when evaluating Cousins. I think they thought with a different team, a better team and hopefully better coaching, they could work with Cousins to make him serviceable and maybe they will, but so far, 18 games in to this, it isn't visible to the naked eye. Lets just let this thing run it's course, we have no other options, he will be part of a few wins this year and maybe we can get past his gaffs and pull out a couple too!

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Rags always quite compelling. Everything comes down to KFC.....

I'd like to visit a parallel universe sit called TalkRagnarok where Kirk Cousins drones on and on about how RagnaFuckingRoc goes about his daily life, job, relationships, etc. Probably some room to find fault.

Rags re: KFC = Dog re: squirrels

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ORIGINAL: JT2

Defensively, we're stacked. We have top-notch personnel at every level. Yet, we were looking at Fitzpatrick and Ramsey?
Are you kidding me? Maybe we do need an All-Pro at every defensive position. Seems like a defensive mastermind should be able to do more with less.

We don't have a legit #3 WR. Our love for Rudolph keeps us in yesterday.

Criticism over. We destroy the Raiders Sunday.

I hope that when we are up by 24 in the second half, we realize that is a good time to open up the dusty playbook and work on our weakness.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
The #Patriots gave Antonio Brown a $9M signing bonus on his 1-year deal — but it wasn’t all due at signing, and there’s usually forfeiture language. As one NFL exec told me: “I don’t think he has any money yet so at least they can hold it while they fight about it.”

I'm sure he'll get a game check or 2, that's probably it.

in oakland....

Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
Other league execs think it’s a weak forfeiture case. Regardless, AB has earned two $62,500 game checks plus a $33,333 46-man bonus, and the rest of his $1M base salary was guaranteed (another possible fight). And a potential grievance awaits vs. #Raiders over voided guarantees.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2019/09/for-cousins-to-improve-vikings-must-fix-pass-protection-struggles/

Good breakdown of our pass pro struggles. Practically jail break stuff. Add in the fact that Stefanski kept going back to plays that didn't work is mind numbing.

We may be running the ball well but Kubiak/Stefanski have a lot to clean up.

Edit: Chi interior dline is going to crush us.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2019/09/for-cousins-to-improve-vikings-must-fix-pass-protection-struggles/

Good breakdown of our pass pro struggles. Practically jail break stuff. Add in the fact that Stefanski kept going back to plays that didn't work is mind numbing.

We may be running the ball well but Kubiak/Stefanski have a lot to clean up.

Edit: Chi interior dline is going to crush us.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
The #Patriots gave Antonio Brown a $9M signing bonus on his 1-year deal — but it wasn’t all due at signing, and there’s usually forfeiture language. As one NFL exec told me: “I don’t think he has any money yet so at least they can hold it while they fight about it.”

I'm sure he'll get a game check or 2, that's probably it.

in oakland....

Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
Other league execs think it’s a weak forfeiture case. Regardless, AB has earned two $62,500 game checks plus a $33,333 46-man bonus, and the rest of his $1M base salary was guaranteed (another possible fight). And a potential grievance awaits vs. #Raiders over voided guarantees.

I read the language says ~ anything to disparage the team, players, coaches, etc, etc.

AB won't get that $9M.

He has a habit of tweeting about how little $ these woman at his house make. I hope turnabout is fair play if he blows his money and gets tweeted about.

Hope the league does their secret handshake and bans him.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

One thing is for sure, we need to show up at the beginning of games if we are going to have a successful season. We drop behind 21-zip in the first 16 minutes of the game, alful tough to instill hope when you have to score four times against any NFL team, much less GB in their place. So, this is another glaring flaw in this team and it needs to be corrected. It has been brought up over the past couple of years, so it's not new, but what to do about it is apparently a mystery. I'm thinking there needs to be better analysis done to get to the cause of these starts, there must be something common between them, but there have been too many to ignore and slough it off to a bad game.

This is another serious issue that needs to be fixed, just to get us on an even playing field at the start of important games, and lets face it, any given Sunday you can get beat by an inferior team.

It feels like Zimmer comes into the game with a 'let's see what they do' gameplan. How about instead you ANTICIPATE what they might be looking to do. Better yet, come up with three or four likely gameplan scenarios for what the opponent is likely to come out with and have answers for each. Last week, one of those likely scenarios could have been 'Devante Adams is their best player so maybe they'll be trying to go to him early and often - if so - DOUBLE HIM'.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Rags always quite compelling. Everything comes down to KFC.....

I'd like to visit a parallel universe sit called TalkRagnarok where Kirk Cousins drones on and on about how RagnaFuckingRoc goes about his daily life, job, relationships, etc. Probably some room to find fault.

Rags re: KFC = Dog re: squirrels

Guess Ragass still at it. Sadly, it's not about Cousins as much as it is him needing attention, even negative strokes.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

You would think that if Zim is so good at developing corners we wouldn't have to bring one in from another team at a high price.

With regard to Rhodes, I believe that the days are over that we let him shadow the opposition's best receiver without giving him some help.

I know that "all the teams have their injury issues", but it was quite a big deal to be down three cornerbacks (I edited my last comment above) going into Lambeau vs. Rodgers. You all realize we had a seventh rounder rookie and an undrafted rookie playing significant snaps last week. I do believe that it will get better as the season progresses and some of these key players return. Hopefully Hughes will play at a high level when he does return, but I am concerned about that.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

You would think that if Zim is so good at developing corners we wouldn't have to bring one in from another team at a high price.

With regard to Rhodes, I believe that the days are over that we let him shadow the opposition's best receiver without giving him some help.

I know that "all the teams have their injury issues", but it was quite a big deal to be down three cornerbacks (I edited my last comment above) going into Lambeau vs. Rodgers. You all realize we had a seventh rounder rookie and an undrafted rookie playing significant snaps last week. I do believe that it will get better as the season progresses and some of these key players return. Hopefully Hughes will play at a high level when he does return, but I am concerned about that.

Didn't we do exactly that against Atlanta/Julio Jones less than 2 weeks ago?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Cousins currently has the slowest snap-to-release in the NFL at 3.15 seconds.

Cousins needs to work more deliberately. He's seen so much pressure yet he continues to be surprised by it every time he drops back.

It seems like that "oh shit" moment happens a whole second elapses before he realizes he better do something.