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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/3/2020 3:25:15 PM   
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Jordan Fehr bench presses 415 lbs., has a 40.5" vertical leap and raaccn a 4.45 40. Not bad for a middle linebacker, but his most impressive feat may be that he was on of the best football scholars in the nation. He had turned down a scholarship at Harvard and was a semi finalist for the nation's top football player scholar award.

Something is not quite right. First, if true, he would have to be the first person ever to turn down a Harvard scholarship to go to Appalachian State. Second, Harvard doesn't offer scholarships -- might be confusing a scholarship with financial aid, which is something that a significant fraction of students get these days at expensive universities.

I thought Harvard offered academic scholarships. Just not sports scholarships.

No, they do not. No ambiguity. Did Fehr turn down an admittance offer from Harvard? He says so.


I am now his Twitter friend. I'll ask him.

Wait. I just checked online and Harvard offers no scholarships even for football players. However, they do provide financial help based on need. Just like you said.

< Message edited by Bruce Johnson -- 5/3/2020 3:33:22 PM >


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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/3/2020 3:29:19 PM   
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Jordan Fehr bench presses 415 lbs., has a 40.5" vertical leap and raaccn a 4.45 40. Not bad for a middle linebacker, but his most impressive feat may be that he was on of the best football scholars in the nation. He had turned down a scholarship at Harvard and was a semi finalist for the nation's top football player scholar award.

Something is not quite right. First, if true, he would have to be the first person ever to turn down a Harvard scholarship to go to Appalachian State. Second, Harvard doesn't offer scholarships -- might be confusing a scholarship with financial aid, which is something that a significant fraction of students get these days at expensive universities.

I thought Harvard offered academic scholarships. Just not sports scholarships.

No, they do not. No ambiguity. Did Fehr turn down an admittance offer from Harvard? He says so.


I am now his Twitter friend. I'll ask him.


Maybe ask him about his 40 time and vertical as well. I am surprised he was not drafted if those numbers were anything even semi-official.
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/3/2020 3:44:08 PM   
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Jordan Fehr bench presses 415 lbs., has a 40.5" vertical leap and raaccn a 4.45 40. Not bad for a middle linebacker, but his most impressive feat may be that he was on of the best football scholars in the nation. He had turned down a scholarship at Harvard and was a semi finalist for the nation's top football player scholar award.

Something is not quite right. First, if true, he would have to be the first person ever to turn down a Harvard scholarship to go to Appalachian State. Second, Harvard doesn't offer scholarships -- might be confusing a scholarship with financial aid, which is something that a significant fraction of students get these days at expensive universities.

I thought Harvard offered academic scholarships. Just not sports scholarships.

No, they do not. No ambiguity. Did Fehr turn down an admittance offer from Harvard? He says so.


I am now his Twitter friend. I'll ask him.


Maybe ask him about his 40 time and vertical as well. I am surprised he was not drafted if those numbers were anything even semi-official.

The 40 times here are quite a bit slower:

http://www.draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1027865&DraftYear=2020

Outside chance to be the next Edmond Robinson.
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/3/2020 5:19:14 PM   
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/3/2020 5:28:59 PM   
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Jordan Fehr bench presses 415 lbs., has a 40.5" vertical leap and raaccn a 4.45 40. Not bad for a middle linebacker, but his most impressive feat may be that he was on of the best football scholars in the nation. He had turned down a scholarship at Harvard and was a semi finalist for the nation's top football player scholar award.

Something is not quite right. First, if true, he would have to be the first person ever to turn down a Harvard scholarship to go to Appalachian State. Second, Harvard doesn't offer scholarships -- might be confusing a scholarship with financial aid, which is something that a significant fraction of students get these days at expensive universities.

I thought Harvard offered academic scholarships. Just not sports scholarships.

No, they do not. No ambiguity. Did Fehr turn down an admittance offer from Harvard? He says so.


I am now his Twitter friend. I'll ask him.

Wait. I just checked online and Harvard offers no scholarships even for football players. However, they do provide financial help based on need. Just like you said.

A friend of mine Paul Cameron played on three straight state tournament teams for Little Falls 75-77. One champion and 2 third place finishes. He was runner up to Valedictorian I think that's what is called Salutatorian. He went to Brown another Ivy school on an academic scholarship is the way I recall it. He doubts he would have been offered that academic scholarship if not for his being a top notch athlete as well. That was 43 years ago so things might be different now.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/3/2020 9:56:49 PM   
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Jordan Fehr bench presses 415 lbs., has a 40.5" vertical leap and raaccn a 4.45 40. Not bad for a middle linebacker, but his most impressive feat may be that he was on of the best football scholars in the nation. He had turned down a scholarship at Harvard and was a semi finalist for the nation's top football player scholar award.

Something is not quite right. First, if true, he would have to be the first person ever to turn down a Harvard scholarship to go to Appalachian State. Second, Harvard doesn't offer scholarships -- might be confusing a scholarship with financial aid, which is something that a significant fraction of students get these days at expensive universities.

I thought Harvard offered academic scholarships. Just not sports scholarships.

No, they do not. No ambiguity. Did Fehr turn down an admittance offer from Harvard? He says so.


I am now his Twitter friend. I'll ask him.

Wait. I just checked online and Harvard offers no scholarships even for football players. However, they do provide financial help based on need. Just like you said.

A friend of mine Paul Cameron played on three straight state tournament teams for Little Falls 75-77. One champion and 2 third place finishes. He was runner up to Valedictorian I think that's what is called Salutatorian. He went to Brown another Ivy school on an academic scholarship is the way I recall it. He doubts he would have been offered that academic scholarship if not for his being a top notch athlete as well. That was 43 years ago so things might be different now.


http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=does+harvard+offer+scholarships
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/3/2020 9:59:56 PM   
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https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2020/04/28/behind-the-scenes-of-minnesota-vikings-virtual-draft?__twitter_impression=true

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/3/2020 11:49:41 PM   
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Jordan Fehr bench presses 415 lbs., has a 40.5" vertical leap and raaccn a 4.45 40. Not bad for a middle linebacker, but his most impressive feat may be that he was on of the best football scholars in the nation. He had turned down a scholarship at Harvard and was a semi finalist for the nation's top football player scholar award.

Something is not quite right. First, if true, he would have to be the first person ever to turn down a Harvard scholarship to go to Appalachian State. Second, Harvard doesn't offer scholarships -- might be confusing a scholarship with financial aid, which is something that a significant fraction of students get these days at expensive universities.

I thought Harvard offered academic scholarships. Just not sports scholarships.

No, they do not. No ambiguity. Did Fehr turn down an admittance offer from Harvard? He says so.


I am now his Twitter friend. I'll ask him.

Wait. I just checked online and Harvard offers no scholarships even for football players. However, they do provide financial help based on need. Just like you said.

A friend of mine Paul Cameron played on three straight state tournament teams for Little Falls 75-77. One champion and 2 third place finishes. He was runner up to Valedictorian I think that's what is called Salutatorian. He went to Brown another Ivy school on an academic scholarship is the way I recall it. He doubts he would have been offered that academic scholarship if not for his being a top notch athlete as well. That was 43 years ago so things might be different now.


http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=does+harvard+offer+scholarships

I never said Harvard or Brown were giving academic scholarships now. I thought they may have 43 years ago, but that seems unlikely. Just sharing what I remembered. Maybe I misunderstood. Maybe he was saying he wouldn't have been accepted on his academics alone and needed the athletics as another acceptance factor.
Now I'm curious about how much Financial Aid these schools might give. Can any poor person who is accepted go Ivy for free?

< Message edited by kgdabom -- 5/4/2020 12:29:24 AM >


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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/4/2020 1:09:43 AM   
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/4/2020 7:54:08 AM   
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@ArifHasanNFL Just did a bit of digging - the fastest 3-cone for an offensive lineman from the last 3 combines: 2018 - Brian O'Neill (7.14), 2019 - Garrett Bradbury (7.41), 2020 - Ezra Cleveland (7.26).



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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/4/2020 8:14:47 AM   
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Jordan Fehr bench presses 415 lbs., has a 40.5" vertical leap and raaccn a 4.45 40. Not bad for a middle linebacker, but his most impressive feat may be that he was on of the best football scholars in the nation. He had turned down a scholarship at Harvard and was a semi finalist for the nation's top football player scholar award.

Something is not quite right. First, if true, he would have to be the first person ever to turn down a Harvard scholarship to go to Appalachian State. Second, Harvard doesn't offer scholarships -- might be confusing a scholarship with financial aid, which is something that a significant fraction of students get these days at expensive universities.

I thought Harvard offered academic scholarships. Just not sports scholarships.

No, they do not. No ambiguity. Did Fehr turn down an admittance offer from Harvard? He says so.


I am now his Twitter friend. I'll ask him.

Wait. I just checked online and Harvard offers no scholarships even for football players. However, they do provide financial help based on need. Just like you said.

A friend of mine Paul Cameron played on three straight state tournament teams for Little Falls 75-77. One champion and 2 third place finishes. He was runner up to Valedictorian I think that's what is called Salutatorian. He went to Brown another Ivy school on an academic scholarship is the way I recall it. He doubts he would have been offered that academic scholarship if not for his being a top notch athlete as well. That was 43 years ago so things might be different now.


http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=does+harvard+offer+scholarships

I never said Harvard or Brown were giving academic scholarships now. I thought they may have 43 years ago, but that seems unlikely. Just sharing what I remembered. Maybe I misunderstood. Maybe he was saying he wouldn't have been accepted on his academics alone and needed the athletics as another acceptance factor.
Now I'm curious about how much Financial Aid these schools might give. Can any poor person who is accepted go Ivy for free?

They claim they are "need blind". If a student gets accepted, they'll provide sufficient financial aid. In reality, student applications provide sufficient information that a school can make an educated guess how much a particular applicant can afford to pay. Let's just say they're not going to accept too many students that can't pay.
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/4/2020 8:20:12 AM   
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@ArifHasanNFL Just did a bit of digging - the fastest 3-cone for an offensive lineman from the last 3 combines: 2018 - Brian O'Neill (7.14), 2019 - Garrett Bradbury (7.41), 2020 - Ezra Cleveland (7.26).

(Christopher Wiley on Twitter)

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/4/2020 8:51:45 AM   
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Jordan Fehr bench presses 415 lbs., has a 40.5" vertical leap and raaccn a 4.45 40. Not bad for a middle linebacker, but his most impressive feat may be that he was on of the best football scholars in the nation. He had turned down a scholarship at Harvard and was a semi finalist for the nation's top football player scholar award.

Something is not quite right. First, if true, he would have to be the first person ever to turn down a Harvard scholarship to go to Appalachian State. Second, Harvard doesn't offer scholarships -- might be confusing a scholarship with financial aid, which is something that a significant fraction of students get these days at expensive universities.

I thought Harvard offered academic scholarships. Just not sports scholarships.

No, they do not. No ambiguity. Did Fehr turn down an admittance offer from Harvard? He says so.


I am now his Twitter friend. I'll ask him.

Wait. I just checked online and Harvard offers no scholarships even for football players. However, they do provide financial help based on need. Just like you said.

A friend of mine Paul Cameron played on three straight state tournament teams for Little Falls 75-77. One champion and 2 third place finishes. He was runner up to Valedictorian I think that's what is called Salutatorian. He went to Brown another Ivy school on an academic scholarship is the way I recall it. He doubts he would have been offered that academic scholarship if not for his being a top notch athlete as well. That was 43 years ago so things might be different now.


http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=does+harvard+offer+scholarships

I never said Harvard or Brown were giving academic scholarships now. I thought they may have 43 years ago, but that seems unlikely. Just sharing what I remembered. Maybe I misunderstood. Maybe he was saying he wouldn't have been accepted on his academics alone and needed the athletics as another acceptance factor.
Now I'm curious about how much Financial Aid these schools might give. Can any poor person who is accepted go Ivy for free?

They claim they are "need blind". If a student gets accepted, they'll provide sufficient financial aid. In reality, student applications provide sufficient information that a school can make an educated guess how much a particular applicant can afford to pay. Let's just say they're not going to accept too many students that can't pay.

Also they admit/accept students based on things other than academics if Risky Business can be believed.
I think they look at participation in student council and athletics that kind of stuff.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/5/2020 8:18:15 AM   
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https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/5/5/21238989/breaking-down-cameron-dantzler?utm_campaign=wludford&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/5/2020 9:02:01 AM   
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https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/5/5/21238989/breaking-down-cameron-dantzler?utm_campaign=wludford&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter


Let's see what he, and say Lynch are doing as we go along vs either of the G's that were taken ahead of us in the 3rd. It would/could have lost the chance at the 2 of them for one of the G's. Assuming we had a trade partner. Which people must assume we did.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/5/2020 9:10:27 AM   
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https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/5/5/21238989/breaking-down-cameron-dantzler?utm_campaign=wludford&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter


Let's see what he, and say Lynch are doing as we go along vs either of the G's that were taken ahead of us in the 3rd. It would/could have lost the chance at the 2 of them for one of the G's. Assuming we had a trade partner. Which people must assume we did.

Yeah people clamoring for the trade up have to be willing to accept the lost opportunities later. I prefer Lynch to all the round 3 DTs and Dantzler is IMO a steal at 89. I don't even know who we would have picked at G if we had traded up.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/5/2020 9:20:03 AM   
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Dantzler is going to be on KFAN in a few minutes.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/5/2020 9:21:59 AM   
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Dantzler is going to be on KFAN in a few minutes.

Is he the skinniest player in the NFL (once he signs)? If not who?

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/5/2020 10:36:40 AM   
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Dantzler is going to be on KFAN in a few minutes.

I streamed it. He sounded like a bright young man. The interviewer didn't.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/5/2020 3:56:58 PM   
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Dantzler is going to be on KFAN in a few minutes.

Is he the skinniest player in the NFL (once he signs)? If not who?


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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/5/2020 3:59:37 PM   
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https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/5/5/21238989/breaking-down-cameron-dantzler?utm_campaign=wludford&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter


Let's see what he, and say Lynch are doing as we go along vs either of the G's that were taken ahead of us in the 3rd. It would/could have lost the chance at the 2 of them for one of the G's. Assuming we had a trade partner. Which people must assume we did.


Not so much assuming we did, more of never giving it a thought.
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/5/2020 10:45:09 PM   
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I'll have to listen to this later. Looks good.

https://amp.kstp.com/articles/jeremy-modkins-tcu-jeff-gladney-vikings-analysis-5721027.html?__twitter_impression=true

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/6/2020 8:17:10 AM   
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More on Gladney.

https://wp.me/p7aESs-916

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/6/2020 10:15:51 AM   
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More on our first pick. It says he will be good beating the press and catches everything.

https://climbingthepocket.com/2020/05/06/scouting-report-justin-jefferson/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 5/6/2020 12:50:35 PM   
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More on our first pick. It says he will be good beating the press and catches everything.

https://climbingthepocket.com/2020/05/06/scouting-report-justin-jefferson/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Bruce thank you for sharing all this information on the draft!
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