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ORIGINAL: Brad H

At some point the little guy stands up and fights. Nothing is more American than that. I will join them in taking a knee, because it is the most American thing to do. If you were a true patriot for mankind, you'd do the same.

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

At some point the little guy stands up and fights. Nothing is more American than that. I will join them in taking a knee, because it is the most American thing to do. If you were a true patriot for mankind, you'd do the same.

What Colin Kaepernick said in 2016: "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color"

In just 4 short years, Hoiseth, and others, have manage to complete reinvent kneeling for the National Anthem into what any true patriot would do. ????

But the kneeling clearly, and unambiguously, started as a protest against showing pride in a country that Kaepernick has no pride for. And his lack of pride/patriotism is not my opinion, but his plainly spoken opinion.

How did kneeling for the National Anthem get to be anything even remotely positive about one's feelings toward the country when it started as the complete opposite and still means that to many, many Americans?

If anyone has ever spent any time in a red state, they would know that no matter how much spin someone tries to put on kneeling for the Anthem, most people in those areas will never see it as anything but unpatriotic and an insult to what they hold most dear.

Now, if you want to insult patriotic people, I guess you have found a great way to do it. Just do not pretend kneeling for the anthem will doing anything other than increase the divide in the nation because that is reality whether you want to believe it or not.

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

At some point the little guy stands up and fights. Nothing is more American than that. I will join them in taking a knee, because it is the most American thing to do. If you were a true patriot for mankind, you'd do the same.

What Colin Kaepernick said in 2016: "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color"

In just 4 short years, Hoiseth, and others, have manage to complete reinvent kneeling for the National Anthem into what any true patriot would do. ????

But the kneeling clearly, and unambiguously, started as a protest against showing pride in a country that Kaepernick has no pride for. And his lack of pride/patriotism is not my opinion, but his plainly spoken opinion.

How did kneeling for the National Anthem get to be anything even remotely positive about one's feelings toward the country when it started as the complete opposite and still means that to many, many Americans?

If anyone has ever spent any time in a red state, they would know that no matter how much spin someone tries to put on kneeling for the Anthem, most people in those areas will never see it as anything but unpatriotic and an insult to what they hold most dear.

Now, if you want to insult patriotic people, I guess you have found a great way to do it. Just do not pretend kneeling for the anthem will doing anything other than increase the divide in the nation because that is reality whether you want to believe it or not.

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

At some point the little guy stands up and fights. Nothing is more American than that. I will join them in taking a knee, because it is the most American thing to do. If you were a true patriot for mankind, you'd do the same.

What Colin Kaepernick said in 2016: "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color"

In just 4 short years, Hoiseth, and others, have manage to complete reinvent kneeling for the National Anthem into what any true patriot would do. ????

But the kneeling clearly, and unambiguously, started as a protest against showing pride in a country that Kaepernick has no pride for. And his lack of pride/patriotism is not my opinion, but his plainly spoken opinion.

How did kneeling for the National Anthem get to be anything even remotely positive about one's feelings toward the country when it started as the complete opposite and still means that to many, many Americans?

If anyone has ever spent any time in a red state, they would know that no matter how much spin someone tries to put on kneeling for the Anthem, most people in those areas will never see it as anything but unpatriotic and an insult to what they hold most dear.

Now, if you want to insult patriotic people, I guess you have found a great way to do it. Just do not pretend kneeling for the anthem will doing anything other than increase the divide in the nation because that is reality whether you want to believe it or not.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

At some point the little guy stands up and fights. Nothing is more American than that. I will join them in taking a knee, because it is the most American thing to do. If you were a true patriot for mankind, you'd do the same.

What Colin Kaepernick said in 2016: "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color"

In just 4 short years, Hoiseth, and others, have manage to complete reinvent kneeling for the National Anthem into what any true patriot would do. ????

But the kneeling clearly, and unambiguously, started as a protest against showing pride in a country that Kaepernick has no pride for. And his lack of pride/patriotism is not my opinion, but his plainly spoken opinion.

How did kneeling for the National Anthem get to be anything even remotely positive about one's feelings toward the country when it started as the complete opposite and still means that to many, many Americans?

If anyone has ever spent any time in a red state, they would know that no matter how much spin someone tries to put on kneeling for the Anthem, most people in those areas will never see it as anything but unpatriotic and an insult to what they hold most dear.

Now, if you want to insult patriotic people, I guess you have found a great way to do it. Just do not pretend kneeling for the anthem will doing anything other than increase the divide in the nation because that is reality whether you want to believe it or not.

How very MAGA of you to stop the bold and underlining where you did...

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

At some point the little guy stands up and fights. Nothing is more American than that. I will join them in taking a knee, because it is the most American thing to do. If you were a true patriot for mankind, you'd do the same.

What Colin Kaepernick said in 2016: "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color"

In just 4 short years, Hoiseth, and others, have manage to complete reinvent kneeling for the National Anthem into what any true patriot would do. ????

But the kneeling clearly, and unambiguously, started as a protest against showing pride in a country that Kaepernick has no pride for. And his lack of pride/patriotism is not my opinion, but his plainly spoken opinion. How did kneeling for the National Anthem get to be anything even remotely positive about one's feelings toward the country when it started as the complete opposite and still means that to many, many Americans?

If anyone has ever spent any time in a red state, they would know that no matter how much spin someone tries to put on kneeling for the Anthem, most people in those areas will never see it as anything but unpatriotic and an insult to what they hold most dear.

Now, if you want to insult patriotic people, I guess you have found a great way to do it. Just do not pretend kneeling for the anthem will be doing anything other than increase the divide in the nation because that is reality whether you want to believe it or not.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

From Thomas Jefferson: When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.

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ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

At some point the little guy stands up and fights. Nothing is more American than that. I will join them in taking a knee, because it is the most American thing to do. If you were a true patriot for mankind, you'd do the same.

What Colin Kaepernick said in 2016: "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color"

In just 4 short years, Hoiseth, and others, have manage to complete reinvent kneeling for the National Anthem into what any true patriot would do. ????

But the kneeling clearly, and unambiguously, started as a protest against showing pride in a country that Kaepernick has no pride for. And his lack of pride/patriotism is not my opinion, but his plainly spoken opinion.

How did kneeling for the National Anthem get to be anything even remotely positive about one's feelings toward the country when it started as the complete opposite and still means that to many, many Americans?

If anyone has ever spent any time in a red state, they would know that no matter how much spin someone tries to put on kneeling for the Anthem, most people in those areas will never see it as anything but unpatriotic and an insult to what they hold most dear.

Now, if you want to insult patriotic people, I guess you have found a great way to do it. Just do not pretend kneeling for the anthem will doing anything other than increase the divide in the nation because that is reality whether you want to believe it or not.

Are you ****in kidding me?! You highlighted the part of his quote that you find offensive, but omitted the part of WHY HE IS DOING IT, which is immediately after the last word you highlighted. Stop it.

The kneeling has never been about being unpatriotic. Its about shining a light on all of the shit that has happened and has been happening since he last played a game.

He was protesting for George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, long before their incidents actually occurred. Dude was waaaaay out in front on this issue, long before anyone else.

I dont know what bubble or bed and breakfast some of you are living in, but you need to wake the **** up and come outside from your bullshit reality and see how the rest of this country is living.. and suffering.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

IF DIVIDE is what is needed to overturn systematic racism then we should be divided.

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

At some point the little guy stands up and fights. Nothing is more American than that. I will join them in taking a knee, because it is the most American thing to do. If you were a true patriot for mankind, you'd do the same.

What Colin Kaepernick said in 2016: "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color"

In just 4 short years, Hoiseth, and others, have manage to complete reinvent kneeling for the National Anthem into what any true patriot would do. ????

But the kneeling clearly, and unambiguously, started as a protest against showing pride in a country that Kaepernick has no pride for. And his lack of pride/patriotism is not my opinion, but his plainly spoken opinion.

How did kneeling for the National Anthem get to be anything even remotely positive about one's feelings toward the country when it started as the complete opposite and still means that to many, many Americans?

If anyone has ever spent any time in a red state, they would know that no matter how much spin someone tries to put on kneeling for the Anthem, most people in those areas will never see it as anything but unpatriotic and an insult to what they hold most dear.

Now, if you want to insult patriotic people, I guess you have found a great way to do it. Just do not pretend kneeling for the anthem will doing anything other than increase the divide in the nation because that is reality whether you want to believe it or not.

Are you ****in kidding me?! You highlighted the part of his quote that you find offensive, but omitted the part of WHY HE IS DOING IT, which is immediately after the last word you highlighted. Stop it.

The kneeling has never been about being unpatriotic. Its about shining a light on all of the shit that has happened and has been happening since he last played a game.

He was protesting for George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, long before their incidents actually occurred. Dude was waaaaay out in front on this issue, long before anyone else.

I dont know what bubble or bed and breakfast some of you are living in, but you need to wake the **** up and come outside from your bullshit reality and see how the rest of this country is living.. and suffering.

No, I am not kidding you.

I could have stopped his quote at the end of bolded, but I did include the whole quote. Why would I have included the whole quote if I was trying to misrepresent his words?

I do not not live in a bubble, but I think some of you guys do.

Kneeling for the Anthem will do NOTHING to help racism, systemic or otherwise. If you think it will make anything better at all then you have not talked to thee people that feel insulted by it.

Please, someone explain how insulting the patriotism that many feel towards this country will help make the country or race relations better? I am not saying that you, or anyone has to be patriotic, but how kneeling for the Anthem will help make things better?

Some protests make things better and some don't. This is one that will not. Protesting racism is a great idea, but this is a crappy way to do it.

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

At some point the little guy stands up and fights. Nothing is more American than that. I will join them in taking a knee, because it is the most American thing to do. If you were a true patriot for mankind, you'd do the same.

What Colin Kaepernick said in 2016: "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color"

In just 4 short years, Hoiseth, and others, have manage to complete reinvent kneeling for the National Anthem into what any true patriot would do. ????

But the kneeling clearly, and unambiguously, started as a protest against showing pride in a country that Kaepernick has no pride for. And his lack of pride/patriotism is not my opinion, but his plainly spoken opinion.

How did kneeling for the National Anthem get to be anything even remotely positive about one's feelings toward the country when it started as the complete opposite and still means that to many, many Americans?

If anyone has ever spent any time in a red state, they would know that no matter how much spin someone tries to put on kneeling for the Anthem, most people in those areas will never see it as anything but unpatriotic and an insult to what they hold most dear.

Now, if you want to insult patriotic people, I guess you have found a great way to do it. Just do not pretend kneeling for the anthem will doing anything other than increase the divide in the nation because that is reality whether you want to believe it or not.

How very MAGA of you to stop the bold and underlining where you did...

See, this is what I mean by increasing the divide in the country.

I did not edit it out the reason why Kaepernick has no pride for this country. Yes, Kaepernick kneeled because he refuses to show pride for a country that he thinks oppresses people of color.

I do not like Trump or support him, but calling someone that is against an anti-patriotic display a Trump supporter is a good way to create more Trump supporters. The majority of the independents that will decide this election will NOT be big fans of kneeling for the Anthem, so if this is an issue that Democrats want to push to the forefront, then it is a big mistake on their part.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

From Thomas Jefferson: When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

If it looks like a duck....

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

If it looks like a duck....

Are people really that binary in your mind?

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Pager

From Thomas Jefferson: When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.

Looking at the massive civil rights progress over the last 70 years and I would say that resistance worked great.

If you think keeling for the National Anthem, or rioting or looting like Hoiseth believes, will help injustice then I think you are sadly mistaken.

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Pager

From Thomas Jefferson: When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.

Looking at the massive civil rights progress over the last 70 years and I would say that resistance worked great.

If you think keeling for the National Anthem, or rioting or looting like Hoiseth believes, will help injustice then I think you are sadly mistaken.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
If you don't think it will help anything, you haven't been paying much attention over the past two months.

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
If you don't think it will help anything, you haven't been paying much attention over the past two months.

So you thinks things have gotten better over the past two months?

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

At some point the little guy stands up and fights. Nothing is more American than that. I will join them in taking a knee, because it is the most American thing to do. If you were a true patriot for mankind, you'd do the same.

What Colin Kaepernick said in 2016: "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color"

In just 4 short years, Hoiseth, and others, have manage to complete reinvent kneeling for the National Anthem into what any true patriot would do. ????

But the kneeling clearly, and unambiguously, started as a protest against showing pride in a country that Kaepernick has no pride for. And his lack of pride/patriotism is not my opinion, but his plainly spoken opinion.

How did kneeling for the National Anthem get to be anything even remotely positive about one's feelings toward the country when it started as the complete opposite and still means that to many, many Americans?

If anyone has ever spent any time in a red state, they would know that no matter how much spin someone tries to put on kneeling for the Anthem, most people in those areas will never see it as anything but unpatriotic and an insult to what they hold most dear.

Now, if you want to insult patriotic people, I guess you have found a great way to do it. Just do not pretend kneeling for the anthem will doing anything other than increase the divide in the nation because that is reality whether you want to believe it or not.

How very MAGA of you to stop the bold and underlining where you did...

See, this is what I mean by increasing the divide in the country.

I did not edit it out the reason why Kaepernick has no pride for this country. Yes, Kaepernick kneeled because he refuses to show pride for a country that he thinks oppresses people of color.

I do not like Trump or support him, but calling someone that is against an anti-patriotic display a Trump supporter is a good way to create more Trump supporters. The majority of the independents that will decide this election will NOT be big fans of kneeling for the Anthem, so if this is an issue that Democrats want to push to the forefront, then it is a big mistake on their part.

If it looks like a duck....

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ORIGINAL: Pager

IF DIVIDE is what is needed to overturn systematic racism then we should be divided.

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Pager

IF DIVIDE is what is needed to overturn systematic racism then we should be divided.

Please explain how kneeling for the National Anthem will accomplish this. No more lame vagueness. Explain how that will do anything at all to help end systemic racism.