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It would be so nice if we could trade Reiff and restructure Harrison right now....


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
Vikings were busy Saturday shoring up their defensive line. Per @AdamSchefter
, the Jaguars are trading DE Yannick Ngakoue to Minnesota for a 2nd and conditional 5th round pick (which could be as high as a 3rd). Ngakoue was franchised by JAX and still has to sign his tender.


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
Ngakoue's franchise tender is $17.8 million but I'd expect that number to drop somewhere in the 12-13 range with a restructure on the one-year deal for the DE. Minnesota will then have the ability to offer Ngakoue a long-term deal in 2021 since he didn't sign his tender by July15.


Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
The Vikings still need to create cap room. I'm hearing LT Riley Reiff could be a prime candidate for a restructure (has a $13.2 million cap hit), but cutting him would be a risky move since 2nd rounder Ezra Cleveland has been at LG throughout camp.


Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
Recapping the trade:

#Jaguars get:

2nd-round pick in 2021
Conditional 5th-round pick in 2022

#Vikings get:

DE Yannick Ngakoue

Ngakoue will rework his 1-year, $17.788 million franchise tender to complete the deal.

It seems like a horrible trade to me. Ngakoue is a good player, but he's a one year rental. There is no guarantee whatsoever that we can sign him to an extension and we lose a 2nd round pick for sure and possibly a 3rd as well? If he was signed to a decent deal great. He's not.

The 5th rounder becomes a 3rd if the Vikings win the Super Bowl. If that happens It will go down as one of the best trades the Vikings ever made.

Is that the 3rd round condition. Funny thing is Ngakoue could play like crap and Wonnum or Lynch explodes and we win the SuperBowl. It would still cost us the pick.

I'd give up 5 consecutive 1st rounders for one SB win.

I’d cut off a finger.

i'd cut off your thumb....

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Ngakoue doesn’t take that pay cut to be here unless an extension is happening y’all. Just wait

(Optimistic Vikings fan on Twitter)

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If we lose Ngakoue next year we probably get a 3rd round pick right? That softens the blow a little, but I still think we paid too much.
Cook, Cleveland, Kendricks, O'Neill, Alexander. Those are our last 5 second round picks right? Rookie contracts are so valuable.

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If we lose Ngakoue next year we probably get a 3rd round pick right? That softens the blow a little, but I still think we paid too much.
Cook, Cleveland, Kendricks, O'Neill, Alexander. Those are our last 5 second round picks right? Rookie contracts are so valuable.

That’s an excellent point. So in theory the one year rental could only cost the Vikings a 5th round pick and a move back from the 2nd round to the 3rd round.

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Ngakoue doesn’t take that pay cut to be here unless an extension is happening y’all. Just wait

(Optimistic Vikings fan on Twitter)

Hopefully, this is the case. The silver lining to Pierce opting out this year is we’ll get to see if Johnson or Watts can become a force at 3T. If one of them can, then next year we’ll have the best dline in football.

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Ngakoue’s 37.5 sacks are 10th most by age 24 (season) since 1982 (when sacks became an official stat).

Hunter through 2018 was tied for 4th on this list, with 40 sacks.

Hunter and Ngakoue are the only players with 35+ sacks by age 24 drafted outside the top of the 1st round.

(Krauser on Twitter)

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Ngakoue’s 37.5 sacks are 10th most by age 24 (season) since 1982 (when sacks became an official stat).

Hunter through 2018 was tied for 4th on this list, with 40 sacks.

Hunter and Ngakoue are the only players with 35+ sacks by age 24 drafted outside the top of the 1st round.

(Krauser on Twitter)

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I hope this move isn't because of an injury to Hunter. That would be bad.

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Yannick will have to sign his tender. I wonder if the rework of the tender (Yannick taking a paycut) will include something to the effect of the Vikings not being able to tag him again next year.

This will also allow Ifeadi to rush more from the inside - which could make the whole line better. Jayln Holmes is probably gone.

What we do next for the cap is probably the most interesting part. Do we do restructures and kick the can down the road into a year where the cap might go down? And risk losing Cook, Harris, Oneil, etc? Or do we offset with a Reiff trade/cut and start the season at LT with Hill and move Ezra back to LT and hope he's ready at some point?

Spielman and Zimmer must think we are closer than a lot of us fans think we are.

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Yannick will have to sign his tender. I wonder if the rework of the tender (Yannick taking a paycut) will include something to the effect of the Vikings not being able to tag him again next year.

This will also allow Ifeadi to rush more from the inside - which could make the whole line better. Jayln Holmes is probably gone.

What we do next for the cap is probably the most interesting part. Do we do restructures and kick the can down the road into a year where the cap might go down? And risk losing Cook, Harris, Oneil, etc? Or do we offset with a Reiff trade/cut and start the season at LT with Hill and move Ezra back to LT and hope he's ready at some point?

Spielman and Zimmer must think we are closer than a lot of us fans think we are.

If I understand things correctly he is already signed and not to the tender. More like our remaining 12.9 million cap space. It was part of the deal to facilitate the trade.

Here's a bit I found on RotoWorld.

YANNICK NGAKOUE
DL, MINNESOTA VIKINGS

Vikings acquired DE Yannick Ngakoue from the Jaguars for a second-round pick and a conditional 2022 fifth-round pick.
The conditional pick can become a fourth-rounder if Ngakoue makes the Pro Bowl. Ngakoue has yet to sign his $17.8 million franchise tender, but he's expected to restructure his deal to help create cap space. The Vikings are getting a star in Ngakoue, who has at least eight sacks in every season. He'll bookend Danielle Hunter to form one of the better pass rushing tandems in the league.

RELATED: Jacksonville Jaguars
SOURCE: ESPN
Aug 30, 2020, 10:15 AM ET

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Yannick will have to sign his tender. I wonder if the rework of the tender (Yannick taking a paycut) will include something to the effect of the Vikings not being able to tag him again next year.

This will also allow Ifeadi to rush more from the inside - which could make the whole line better. Jayln Holmes is probably gone.

What we do next for the cap is probably the most interesting part. Do we do restructures and kick the can down the road into a year where the cap might go down? And risk losing Cook, Harris, Oneil, etc? Or do we offset with a Reiff trade/cut and start the season at LT with Hill and move Ezra back to LT and hope he's ready at some point?

Spielman and Zimmer must think we are closer than a lot of us fans think we are.

If I understand things correctly he is already signed and not to the tender. More like our remaining 12.9 million cap space. It was part of the deal to facilitate the trade.

Here's a bit I found on RotoWorld.

YANNICK NGAKOUE
DL, MINNESOTA VIKINGS

Vikings acquired DE Yannick Ngakoue from the Jaguars for a second-round pick and a conditional 2022 fifth-round pick.
The conditional pick can become a fourth-rounder if Ngakoue makes the Pro Bowl. Ngakoue has yet to sign his $17.8 million franchise tender, but he's expected to restructure his deal to help create cap space. The Vikings are getting a star in Ngakoue, who has at least eight sacks in every season. He'll bookend Danielle Hunter to form one of the better pass rushing tandems in the league.

RELATED: Jacksonville Jaguars
SOURCE: ESPN
Aug 30, 2020, 10:15 AM ET

Jaguars agreed to trade franchise DE Yannick Ngakoue to Minnesota for a second- and conditional fifth-round pick that could go as high a third-round pick, league sources tell ESPN. Ngakoue still has to sign his tender, but trade is in place and Ngakoue is expected to be a Viking.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1300020372197330949


Per usual - your understanding could use some work.

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Camp Winners:

Bisi Johnson
Alexander Hollins
Dakota Dozier
Cam Dantzler
Jaleel Johnson
Holton Hill
Dan Bailey

Camp Losers

Jake Browning
Nate Stanley
Dru Samia
Kris Boyd
Tajae Sharpe
Ezra Cleveland
Dillon Mitchell

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)

I would also add Sean Mannion as a loser, although I really can't qualify that as "Camp" specific.

Mannion, Browning...I just don't get why we're so unwilling to have competent back-up QBs?

Or at least guys with some potential.

Kaepernick is just sitting there.....

I will become a Packers fan if that happens.

You're likely to remain safely purple.

I hope so. I really don't want to root for the Green and Gold. My feelings against Kaepernick are so strong that I was thinking that even if he is a Viking for a minute I will never root for the Vikings again. But really, there must be another team to root for better than the Packers. My daughter lives in Michigan. Maybe I could root for the Lions.

Too bad your near death experience wasnt able to make you s better person.

Really? Any person you don't like? What a horrid person you must be.

I'm comfortable in my own skin. You just worry about which MAGA hat to wear to the next rally. There's no opinion you can hold that will mean a split to me.