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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/19/2020 10:19:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I will soon be under a ventilator. It's possible that this is my last post.

Fudge no. I'm still praying for you. Get well.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/19/2020 10:30:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I will soon be under a ventilator. It's possible that this is my last post.

Not going to happen. Stay strong. You WILL get through this.No negative thoughts.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/19/2020 10:50:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I will soon be under a ventilator. It's possible that this is my last post.


You're far too stubborn to let a little Corona get you down.

I have all the faith in the world that you've got this.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/19/2020 11:48:26 AM   
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You are in the best place for treatment, Bruce. Soon we will be talking about obscure 6th round picks and how they fit on the roster! We're all thinking about you.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/19/2020 12:18:16 PM   
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You're going to be fine Bruce.

As hard as this gets, you are going to hang in there.

We all are holding good thoughts and pulling hard.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/19/2020 3:20:09 PM   
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I just told my friends over at Vikingsmessageboard.com to pray or send out good vibes to you Bruce.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/19/2020 4:50:07 PM   
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Anyone know which hospital he is in? I have faith he will get through this but would be cool if we could get something together for him and his family. If someone who knows him can come up with something I would appreciate it. Sucks having one of our own in pain.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/19/2020 5:15:51 PM   
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You are in the best place for treatment, Bruce. Soon we will be talking about obscure 6th round picks and how they fit on the roster! We're all thinking about you.



YES!
YES!!
YES!!!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/19/2020 5:23:49 PM   
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Anyone know which hospital he is in? I have faith he will get through this but would be cool if we could get something together for him and his family. If someone who knows him can come up with something I would appreciate it. Sucks having one of our own in pain.

I was thinking along the same lines. I tried clicking his name on the members icon but after several minutes of loading it just goes blank.

I think he lives in western Iowa but not positive.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 11:12:01 AM  2 votes
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Prayers for Bruce and family are being prayed by our Vikings Brethren at Vikingsmessageboard.com.
I also got my old church back in St. Cloud in on this. When it comes to prayer IMO the more the better.
Bruce if you happen to read this get well soon.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 11:14:11 AM   
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Does anybody here know how restrictive being on a ventilator is? Can Bruce watch TV? Talk to people. Surf the internet?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 12:20:29 PM   
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It's good to see all the support for Bruce in here. I hope he's back in here soon! Bruce we miss you buddy!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 12:21:57 PM   
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Does anybody here know how restrictive being on a ventilator is? Can Bruce watch TV? Talk to people. Surf the internet?


Read somewhere patients often (always?) have tubes going into their lungs or thereabouts, and because this is uncomfortable or more they are often sedated.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 12:34:32 PM   
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Does anybody here know how restrictive being on a ventilator is? Can Bruce watch TV? Talk to people. Surf the internet?


Read somewhere patients often (always?) have tubes going into their lungs or thereabouts, and because this is uncomfortable or more they are often sedated.

Thanks Bill. Hopefully he doesn't get to the point of anything more drastic.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 2:02:38 PM   
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Does anybody here know how restrictive being on a ventilator is? Can Bruce watch TV? Talk to people. Surf the internet?


Read somewhere patients often (always?) have tubes going into their lungs or thereabouts, and because this is uncomfortable or more they are often sedated.

At the level of morbidity (illness) that requires a ventilator for a COVID-19 patient, Bruce is almost certainly extremely sedated if not KFO (knocked the fukk out). He may be subjected to a mode of ventilation that's difficult to tolerate, like a longer inspiratory time or extended inflation, or that he's proned (on his stomach) for at least significant portions of the day. His oxygenation problems may be of a severity that they've paralyzed him in order to minimize his oxygen demand, which would require him to be sedated. He may also be getting his blood oxygenated outside of his body (ECMO, or extra-corporeal membrane oxygenation), which would require insertion of tubes into major vessels on both the venous and arterial sides of the circulation. All of that said, it's possible that he's somewhat interactive, but if he's on a vent with this disease he's fighting for his life.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 2:59:33 PM   
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I was thinking going on a ventilator was not a good sign.

Sounds awful the way Bohumm described it.

Prayers to Bruce

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 3:06:12 PM   
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10 Things to Know if Your Loved One is On a Ventilator
For patients who are unable to breathe on their own, mechanical ventilation is used to provide life-sustaining oxygen. Ventilation is a process that requires the diligent care of a medical team and a weaning process.

If you have a family member or loved one on a ventilator, here are some things you should know:

1. What is a Ventilator?

A ventilator is a machine that supports breathing, and is used mainly in a hospital or rehabilitation setting. Medical issues or conditions that make it hard for the patient to breathe necessitate that a ventilator is used to aid the breathing process.

2. How Does a Ventilator Work?

A ventilator helps get oxygen into the lungs of the patient and removes carbon dioxide (a waste gas that can be toxic). It is used for life support, but does not treat disease or medical conditions.

3. Who Needs a Ventilator?

Many conditions, such as pneumonia, COPD, brain injuries, and strokes require the use of a ventilator. If you have a loved one with a disease or condition that impairs their lung function, a ventilator will be employed. The use of a ventilator is also common when someone is under anesthesia during general surgery. A patient may not even know they were connected to a ventilator after the completion of the surgery or medical procedure.

4. Risks of Being on a Ventilator

Patients on ventilators run a higher risk of developing pneumonia because of bacteria that enters through the breathing tube. It can also make it difficult for them to cough and clear airways of irritants that can cause infections.

5. Eating While on a Ventilator

The breathing tube will prevent the patient from eating normally, so a different tube that provides nutrients, may be inserted into their vein. Patients who are on long-term ventilation may require a feeding tube directly inserted into the nose or mouth, or through a hole made in the stomach.

6. When Sedation is Used

Sedation is often used for patients on long-term ventilation, although there’s plenty of debate in medical circles concerning the over-use of sedation. The use of sedation often depends on the patient; a patient who is calm during normal life is usually calm on a ventilator while in an ICU unit. I think it's safe to say that Bruce is a calm guy. Maybe he won't require sedation.

7. A Ventilator Restricts Your Movement

A patient’s activity and movement are significantly limited while on a ventilator. While they may be able to sit up in bed or in a chair, their mobility is otherwise limited.

8. Your Care Will Involve a Team Approach

The medical team that closely monitors patients on a ventilator includes: doctors, nurses, respiratory therapists, X-ray technicians, and more.

9. Will the Ventilator be Painful?

There’s usually little or no pain when on a ventilator.

10. Ventilator Weaning Process

Weaning is the process of taking someone off of a ventilator, so that they may begin to breathe on their own. The process usually begins with a short trial, in which they’re still connected to the ventilator, but allowed to breathe on their own. The ventilator is removed once it’s clear that the patient can breathe on their own.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 3:56:24 PM   
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What they hell is all this Covid Talk in the General Vikings thread?



Move it to where it belongs please.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 4:00:27 PM   
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What they hell is all this Covid Talk in the General Vikings thread?



Move it to where it belongs please.

It's talk about Bruce which in my opinion is OK in the general vikings thread. However, I get that opinions on that will differ. Could a mod make a new thread specifically for Bruce related COVID talk?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 4:01:17 PM   
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What they hell is all this Covid Talk in the General Vikings thread?



Move it to where it belongs please.



How about just the slightest bit of sensitivity dude!

Bruce Johnson is a huge contributor on this site damn near 24 yours a day posting great story after story

We all just want to show support.

So chill the f**k out why don’t ya!!!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 4:03:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

What they hell is all this Covid Talk in the General Vikings thread?



Move it to where it belongs please.


Take it easy. A fellow Viking fan, a huge contributor to most Viking threads and one heck of a nice guy that many know is suffering from it.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 4:09:51 PM   
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I’ve been waiting to see who has the balls to make the first Vikings related post which so far hasn’t happened. There really isn’t much to talk about right now though.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 4:28:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

What they hell is all this Covid Talk in the General Vikings thread?



Move it to where it belongs please.



How about you get out of here. If it pains you so, start another General Vikings thread. You can post to yourself.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 4:38:38 PM   
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How about we don't attack Scott. To some this talk is traumatic. We don't know his experience. Show sensitivity both ways.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/20/2020 4:42:20 PM  1 votes
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How about we don't attack Scott. To some this talk is traumatic. We don't know his experience. Show sensitivity both ways.

How about stfu for once.

Few things have been more deserving of a call out.
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