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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 2/10/2022 2:29:40 PM

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Does it bother anyone else that Simmons was really vilified for his stance to not play for the Sixers, but owned it; while Harden basically played like crap and feigned an injury to force a trade, but refused to acknowledge his obvious displeasure with the Nets?

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 2/15/2022 8:58:07 PM

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Celtics suddenly on fire!
Beat Philly 135-87!!

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 2/19/2022 6:30:57 PM

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Lakers looking to trade Anthony Davis and a box of steel pins/rods/screws for a 5th rounder in 2043.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 2/21/2022 12:36:42 PM

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Is Anthony Davis just not a good fit for them or does he just have nothing left?

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 2/21/2022 1:42:50 PM

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Is Anthony Davis just not a good fit for them or does he just have nothing left?

He's held together with spit and baling wire at this point.

But LeBron is already hinting at moving on from LA anyways. The latest is he's willing to rejoin Cleveland again (now that they have a really good team...)

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 2/21/2022 1:46:37 PM

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Is Anthony Davis just not a good fit for them or does he just have nothing left?

He's held together with spit and baling wire at this point.

But LeBron is already hinting at moving on from LA anyways. The latest is he's willing to rejoin Cleveland again (now that they have a really good team...)

AD being hurt all the time is nothing new....I said that when he was 24-25.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 2/22/2022 11:42:38 AM

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Is Anthony Davis just not a good fit for them or does he just have nothing left?

He's held together with spit and baling wire at this point.

But LeBron is already hinting at moving on from LA anyways. The latest is he's willing to rejoin Cleveland again (now that they have a really good team...)

Hopefully he lets them move on from him before his contract is up. Waiving no trade clause.

Lakers got a title from him and AD. Time to move on.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 2/22/2022 11:45:07 AM 1 votes

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AD for Beasley, Prince and McDaniels

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 2/22/2022 11:52:36 AM

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Is Anthony Davis just not a good fit for them or does he just have nothing left?

He's held together with spit and baling wire at this point.

But LeBron is already hinting at moving on from LA anyways. The latest is he's willing to rejoin Cleveland again (now that they have a really good team...)

Hopefully he lets them move on from him before his contract is up. Waiving no trade clause.

Lakers got a title from him and AD. Time to move on.

LeBron does not have a no trade clause. In fact no player in the league currently has one.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 2/22/2022 11:54:29 AM

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Is Anthony Davis just not a good fit for them or does he just have nothing left?

He's held together with spit and baling wire at this point.

But LeBron is already hinting at moving on from LA anyways. The latest is he's willing to rejoin Cleveland again (now that they have a really good team...)

Hopefully he lets them move on from him before his contract is up. Waiving no trade clause.

Lakers got a title from him and AD. Time to move on.

LeBron does not have a no trade clause. In fact no player in the league currently has one.

That's great news. But, they will probably choose the make money route and keep him around. Adding one more year of mediocrity.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/6/2022 4:31:11 PM

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Lebron went off for 56 points in last night’s win over GS. He took 31 of the team’s 89 shots and 13 of their 21 free throws.

The old man has obviously decided the only hope for their sinking season is to put the team on his back. Sadly, this is a 100% accurate assessment.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/7/2022 4:17:10 AM

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Lebron went off for 56 points in last night’s win over GS. He took 31 of the team’s 89 shots and 13 of their 21 free throws.

The old man has obviously decided the only hope for their sinking season is to put the team on his back. Sadly, this is a 100% accurate assessment.

True enough. It underscores the problem the Wolves face being in the play-in tournament. The last team anyone wants to face in that situation is the Lakers, specifically because LeBron will LeBron and the NBA will not permit the Lakers to miss the field of eight.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/7/2022 7:44:13 AM

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Lebron went off for 56 points in last night’s win over GS. He took 31 of the team’s 89 shots and 13 of their 21 free throws.

The old man has obviously decided the only hope for their sinking season is to put the team on his back. Sadly, this is a 100% accurate assessment.

True enough. It underscores the problem the Wolves face being in the play-in tournament. The last team anyone wants to face in that situation is the Lakers, specifically because LeBron will LeBron and the NBA will not permit the Lakers to miss the field of eight.

I’d prefer not to face Lakers or Clippers. As it sits right now we’d get Portland or New Orleans who are battling for the last spot. It would still be nice to get into that 6 spot and avoid play in altogether. That’s seeming less likely but still not impossible.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/7/2022 11:44:58 AM

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Lebron went off for 56 points in last night’s win over GS. He took 31 of the team’s 89 shots and 13 of their 21 free throws.

The old man has obviously decided the only hope for their sinking season is to put the team on his back. Sadly, this is a 100% accurate assessment.

True enough. It underscores the problem the Wolves face being in the play-in tournament. The last team anyone wants to face in that situation is the Lakers, specifically because LeBron will LeBron and the NBA will not permit the Lakers to miss the field of eight.

I’d prefer not to face Lakers or Clippers. As it sits right now we’d get Portland or New Orleans who are battling for the last spot. It would still be nice to get into that 6 spot and avoid play in altogether. That’s seeming less likely but still not impossible.

Nope. We'd get the Clippers in the opening match-up. 7 plays 8. 9 plays 10. And the loser of 7/8 plays the winner of 9/10.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/7/2022 4:29:45 PM

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Lebron went off for 56 points in last night’s win over GS. He took 31 of the team’s 89 shots and 13 of their 21 free throws.

The old man has obviously decided the only hope for their sinking season is to put the team on his back. Sadly, this is a 100% accurate assessment.

True enough. It underscores the problem the Wolves face being in the play-in tournament. The last team anyone wants to face in that situation is the Lakers, specifically because LeBron will LeBron and the NBA will not permit the Lakers to miss the field of eight.

I’d prefer not to face Lakers or Clippers. As it sits right now we’d get Portland or New Orleans who are battling for the last spot. It would still be nice to get into that 6 spot and avoid play in altogether. That’s seeming less likely but still not impossible.

Nope. We'd get the Clippers in the opening match-up. 7 plays 8. 9 plays 10. And the loser of 7/8 plays the winner of 9/10.

Oh I forgot how it worked. I’m so unversed in NBA playoffs lately. So weird to have to pay attention to it again. I thought it was a straight 7 vs 10, 8 vs 9 seeding

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/7/2022 4:54:11 PM

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Yeah. I think it's a little counterintuitive, but it's weighted to favor 7/8, making it double elimination for those teams.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/7/2022 5:28:55 PM

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Yeah. I think it's a little counterintuitive, but it's weighted to favor 7/8, making it double elimination for those teams.

Right. A little clunky, but actually a very fair system that rewards the higher seeds.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/8/2022 5:22:44 AM

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The wolves are 8-2 in their last 10. But the two teams we are immediately trying to catch are 8-2 and 9-1. Looks like still stuck at 7 will be the final outcome.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/8/2022 10:27:29 AM

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The wolves are 8-2 in their last 10. But the two teams we are immediately trying to catch are 8-2 and 9-1. Looks like still stuck at 7 will be the final outcome.

Also the team behind us has gone 7-3 over their past 10.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/8/2022 8:17:00 PM

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Lebron went off for 56 points in last night’s win over GS. He took 31 of the team’s 89 shots and 13 of their 21 free throws.

The old man has obviously decided the only hope for their sinking season is to put the team on his back. Sadly, this is a 100% accurate assessment.

True enough. It underscores the problem the Wolves face being in the play-in tournament. The last team anyone wants to face in that situation is the Lakers, specifically because LeBron will LeBron and the NBA will not permit the Lakers to miss the field of eight.

Really? Cause the NBA doesn't seem to care so far.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/9/2022 5:46:34 AM

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Lebron went off for 56 points in last night’s win over GS. He took 31 of the team’s 89 shots and 13 of their 21 free throws.

The old man has obviously decided the only hope for their sinking season is to put the team on his back. Sadly, this is a 100% accurate assessment.

True enough. It underscores the problem the Wolves face being in the play-in tournament. The last team anyone wants to face in that situation is the Lakers, specifically because LeBron will LeBron and the NBA will not permit the Lakers to miss the field of eight.

Really? Cause the NBA doesn't seem to care so far.

Please elaborate. I'm inferring from your comment that you feel the NBA is somehow making it harder for the Lakers to win.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/9/2022 6:32:30 PM

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Lebron went off for 56 points in last night’s win over GS. He took 31 of the team’s 89 shots and 13 of their 21 free throws.

The old man has obviously decided the only hope for their sinking season is to put the team on his back. Sadly, this is a 100% accurate assessment.

True enough. It underscores the problem the Wolves face being in the play-in tournament. The last team anyone wants to face in that situation is the Lakers, specifically because LeBron will LeBron and the NBA will not permit the Lakers to miss the field of eight.

Really? Cause the NBA doesn't seem to care so far.

Please elaborate. I'm inferring from your comment that you feel the NBA is somehow making it harder for the Lakers to win.

Follow along, it's pretty easy. You say the NBA ~ will ensure the Lakers make the field of eight. I'm saying the results of the NBAs effort are not there since the Lakers have gone 2-8 in their last 10.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/10/2022 6:26:07 AM

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Lebron went off for 56 points in last night’s win over GS. He took 31 of the team’s 89 shots and 13 of their 21 free throws.

The old man has obviously decided the only hope for their sinking season is to put the team on his back. Sadly, this is a 100% accurate assessment.

True enough. It underscores the problem the Wolves face being in the play-in tournament. The last team anyone wants to face in that situation is the Lakers, specifically because LeBron will LeBron and the NBA will not permit the Lakers to miss the field of eight.

Really? Cause the NBA doesn't seem to care so far.

Please elaborate. I'm inferring from your comment that you feel the NBA is somehow making it harder for the Lakers to win.

Follow along, it's pretty easy. You say the NBA ~ will ensure the Lakers make the field of eight. I'm saying the results of the NBAs effort are not there since the Lakers have gone 2-8 in their last 10.

The Lakers still control their own destiny, meaning they're still positioned for the play-in. During the play-in games, they'll get the calls they need to advance. If they happen to slip out of the top 10, I think those favorable calls will come sooner.

Thanks for the condescending answer, though.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/11/2022 12:44:52 PM

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The 28-37 Lakers are 19-16 at home (54%) and 9-21 (30%) on the road. They have 6 games left at home and 11 left on the road. Of those 17 games, only one of them is against a team that currently has a worse record than them (OKC). They have a pair of games against both the Pels and Wiz are somewhat winnable but the rest of their games are tough.

The 25-41 Spurs OTOH have 9 games left at home vs 7 on the road. They play the nosediving Blazers 3x and have one game each against OKC, HOU, and IND. They also play the Pels 2x. The rest of their games are tough.

The Lakers only have 1 more inter-conference win than the Spurs. The Lakers have 10 left against the West to the Spurs 15.

If the Spurs can win three more games out of their last 16 than the Lakers win in their last 17, the Lakers will almost certainly not be in the playoffs this year.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 3/11/2022 4:11:49 PM

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Lakers are in a super weird position for the next year or two.

They have 4 players alone that bring them near the luxury tax next season in LeBron, AD, Westbrook and THT.

Something called "Auston Reaves" is the only other guaranteed contract for next year. Nunn has a 5.2M Player option, Stanley Johnson has a 2.3M Team option. Mason Jones has a QO. That's the roster.

Technically Westbrook has a player option for next year, but I don't see him turning down 47M.

They have no 1st round picks. If they draw 1-10 it goes to NOLA, 11-30 it goes to Memphis. NOLA also has the option to swap picks in 2023. And then NOLA has their choice of the Lakers 2024 or 2025 pick (no protections).

Because of that 2024/2025 option, the earliest 1st rounder the Lakers can trade is 2027.

Can they dump AD who still has 3 years and 120M owed to him?

They could probably find a taker for Westbrook if they're willing to take back worse (ie: longer) deals. But without 1st round picks to attach to him, it'll be tough. And I doubt they want to muck up their future cap because in 2023/24, AD and THT are the only contracts currently on their books.

Best thing they can do, I guess, is just hold tight and punt next year, and hope to attract 2-3 high end players with their cap room in 2 years.

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