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Well I sure hope Adam Thielen and Harrison Smith are prepared to wear masks all season. Idiots.

Has the vaccine been made available to all Americans yet?
They're young and healthy. They are probably on the bottom of the priority list for the vaccine.

Since mid-April, it's been open for everyone.





At this point, like twinsfan said, he can choose his manufacturer. And probably get a shot same day.

I'm 62 and have diabetes. I chose to get the vaccine. Mid April was when the vaccine was made available to me. Then the month wait for the second shot. Then the is it 2 weeks for full efficacy?
There appears to be a credible concern regarding the vaccination causing myocarditis in people under 30. If somebody chooses not to get the vaccine I wouldn't call them idiots. However, they have to suffer the consequences of their choice.

Yea, perhaps he's looking at the amount of people who have had adverse reactions. I lost a very close friend who died just hours after taking his second shot. I know that millions of shots have been given, but over 5,000 people have died after getting the shot, so perhaps he wants to do the best research he can before he makes this decision. I know it's not vogue to think for yourself any more, but the way the medical community has vacillated on this issue, people have a right to be cautious and not just blindly follow the crowd. If a person has received the shot, why the f@!# do they care what someone else does?

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I worry about it dividing the team.

It's my only worry with this team.

I don't know how religious Adam and Smith are but I'm guessing they line up with Cousins...the certain type of religious goober that's against vaccination.

Florio laid into them pretty hard this morning on PA's show. Basically called them selfish.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Very funny Tom, but I was talking about getting vaccinated, not wearing masks.

As someone stated, those players not getting vaccinated could lead to division in the team, a schism.

I was wondering about Brady, because he has a tendency to do things right as far as for team chemistry. I also thought he might be one to not vaccinate, since I read somewhere that he was a Trump supporter.

Pretty Sure Trump was Vaccinated; especially after he got the Vids. Getting the shot is a personal preference.....no necessarily a political preference as some want you to think.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Just remember when you specifically pick out 3 players out of over average 40 that don't have the vaccine from each team it looks like you are only attacking the religious on the team, instead of the unvaccinated on the team....that is what I am spelling and pointing out.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: marty

Anyone here know, has Tom Brady been vaccinated ?

Oh good god ... inevitable ...

So far during the pandemic, Brady has only started for the grocery store four times before having to return to his car for his mask.

Cousins has forgotten his mask in the car sixteen times during the pandemic. One of those times he tried to enter the store using a 'prayer shield' (a combination of prayer and shaking a box of Hot Tamales) but was asked to leave.

https://www.nfl.com/news/half-of-nfl-teams-have-51-or-more-players-vaccinated-for-covid-19
Weird we are picking on these three. Almost like some have a problem with a religious QB? Religious WR or Safety? Lets give it a break....

I don't think Tom has a problem with religion. I know I don't. Humor nothing more. Plus he was responding to Marty's eventual inevitable leadership comparison between Cousins and Brady based on vaccine compliance.

Thanks for seeing through the deeply philosophical underpinnings and noticing the shallow 'attempt at humor'. Which it was.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: marty

Anyone here know, has Tom Brady been vaccinated ?

Oh good god ... inevitable ...

So far during the pandemic, Brady has only started for the grocery store four times before having to return to his car for his mask.

Cousins has forgotten his mask in the car sixteen times during the pandemic. One of those times he tried to enter the store using a 'prayer shield' (a combination of prayer and shaking a box of Hot Tamales) but was asked to leave.

https://www.nfl.com/news/half-of-nfl-teams-have-51-or-more-players-vaccinated-for-covid-19
Weird we are picking on these three. Almost like some have a problem with a religious QB? Religious WR or Safety? Lets give it a break....

Its weird we're talking about 3 Vikings?

Two of which were just the subject of a story yesterday about not being vaccinated?

Again...my preference was to get vaccinated...I don't think it is much of story when 50% aren't vaccinated yet. Run with whatever you want. I also don't gawk, nod, kick, or throw stones at anyone that hasn't received the vaccination yet at my workplace. Still their right.

Yes, continue to move the goalposts.

What is weird about this discussion?

Just today the biggest NFL news is the loosening of COVID restrictions for vaccinated players and how it will affect unvaccinated players.

Yesterday Smith and Thielen offered up the fact they aren't vaccinated.

Cousins was introduced into the discussion because he's been the most outspoken member of the team when it comes to being anti-mask and anti-vax.

Should we ignore the current news and talk more about Hunter's contract?

Do whatever you want...only your opinion matters....everyone else is moving goalposts.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Very funny Tom, but I was talking about getting vaccinated, not wearing masks.

As someone stated, those players not getting vaccinated could lead to division in the team, a schism.

I was wondering about Brady, because he has a tendency to do things right as far as for team chemistry. I also thought he might be one to not vaccinate, since I read somewhere that he was a Trump supporter.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Just remember when you specifically pick out 3 players out of over average 40 that don't have the vaccine from each team it looks like you are only attacking the religious on the team, instead of the unvaccinated on the team....that is what I am spelling and pointing out.

You do realize Phil

That its just a matter of time before a new COVID variant produces an outbreak of non-vaccinated religious QB zombies.

Thanks for defending personal choice over the well-being of our species.

Good going.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: marty

Anyone here know, has Tom Brady been vaccinated ?

Oh good god ... inevitable ...

So far during the pandemic, Brady has only started for the grocery store four times before having to return to his car for his mask.

Cousins has forgotten his mask in the car sixteen times during the pandemic. One of those times he tried to enter the store using a 'prayer shield' (a combination of prayer and shaking a box of Hot Tamales) but was asked to leave.

https://www.nfl.com/news/half-of-nfl-teams-have-51-or-more-players-vaccinated-for-covid-19
Weird we are picking on these three. Almost like some have a problem with a religious QB? Religious WR or Safety? Lets give it a break....

I don't think Tom has a problem with religion. I know I don't. Humor nothing more. Plus he was responding to Marty's eventual inevitable leadership comparison between Cousins and Brady based on vaccine compliance.

Thanks for seeing through the deeply philosophical underpinnings and noticing the shallow 'attempt at humor'. Which it was.

I suppose next you'll be drawing cartoons about Islam.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Anyone here know, has Tom Brady been vaccinated ?

Oh good god ... inevitable ...

So far during the pandemic, Brady has only started for the grocery store four times before having to return to his car for his mask.

Cousins has forgotten his mask in the car sixteen times during the pandemic. One of those times he tried to enter the store using a 'prayer shield' (a combination of prayer and shaking a box of Hot Tamales) but was asked to leave.

On the bright side, Cousins was among league leaders at QB in mask wearing in the final two minutes of a half. In these frenetic periods where the masks of players like Mahomes, Brady, and Rodgers were sagging below the nose or completely off, Cousins consistently wore his high and tight.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Very funny Tom, but I was talking about getting vaccinated, not wearing masks.

As someone stated, those players not getting vaccinated could lead to division in the team, a schism.

I was wondering about Brady, because he has a tendency to do things right as far as for team chemistry. I also thought he might be one to not vaccinate, since I read somewhere that he was a Trump supporter.

Pretty Sure Trump was Vaccinated; especially after he got the Vids. Getting the shot is a personal preference.....no necessarily a political preference as some want you to think.

Yeah F society!

I would shed no tears if the virus mutated and wiped out those who had an opportunity to take the vaccine but didn't, although that does not include those who are essentially not cleared health-wise to take the vaccine.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Very funny Tom, but I was talking about getting vaccinated, not wearing masks.

As someone stated, those players not getting vaccinated could lead to division in the team, a schism.

I was wondering about Brady, because he has a tendency to do things right as far as for team chemistry. I also thought he might be one to not vaccinate, since I read somewhere that he was a Trump supporter.

Pretty Sure Trump was Vaccinated; especially after he got the Vids. Getting the shot is a personal preference.....no necessarily a political preference as some want you to think.

Yeah F society!

I would shed no tears if the virus mutated and wiped out those who had an opportunity to take the vaccine but didn't, although that does not include those who are essentially not cleared health-wise to take the vaccine.

That is simply a pathetic thing to say.

No one knows the long term effects of this vaccine. Those nonvaccinated could all get wiped out but I don't see anyone hoping that happens.

Get a grip Bill.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Just remember when you specifically pick out 3 players out of over average 40 that don't have the vaccine from each team it looks like you are only attacking the religious on the team, instead of the unvaccinated on the team....that is what I am spelling and pointing out.

You do realize Phil

That its just a matter of time before a new COVID variant produces an outbreak of non-vaccinated religious QB zombies.

Thanks for defending personal choice over the well-being of our species.

Good going.

If the well being of our species was of primary importance in the U.S., then ivermectin and a few other medications would have been given a fair shake.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Just remember when you specifically pick out 3 players out of over average 40 that don't have the vaccine from each team it looks like you are only attacking the religious on the team, instead of the unvaccinated on the team....that is what I am spelling and pointing out.

You do realize Phil

That its just a matter of time before a new COVID variant produces an outbreak of non-vaccinated religious QB zombies.

Thanks for defending personal choice over the well-being of our species.

Good going.

If the well being of our species was of primary importance in the U.S., then ivermectin and a few other medications would have been given a fair shake.

I promise you if injecting Clorox or internal UVB would have saved lives, healthcare professionals would have done it. Convalescence continued to be used even after research showed it wasn't effective. To suggest that providers/public health policy decision makers (most are doctors) that have taken the Hippocratic Oath let politics, religion, or any other reason interfere with providing the best possible care is insulting.

I volunteered to work in our ED clinically during the first peak. While we were still getting images/news reports of body bags in New York. It was scary AF.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: marty

Anyone here know, has Tom Brady been vaccinated ?

Oh good god ... inevitable ...

So far during the pandemic, Brady has only started for the grocery store four times before having to return to his car for his mask.

Cousins has forgotten his mask in the car sixteen times during the pandemic. One of those times he tried to enter the store using a 'prayer shield' (a combination of prayer and shaking a box of Hot Tamales) but was asked to leave.

https://www.nfl.com/news/half-of-nfl-teams-have-51-or-more-players-vaccinated-for-covid-19
Weird we are picking on these three. Almost like some have a problem with a religious QB? Religious WR or Safety? Lets give it a break....

I don't think Tom has a problem with religion. I know I don't. Humor nothing more. Plus he was responding to Marty's eventual inevitable leadership comparison between Cousins and Brady based on vaccine compliance.

Thanks for seeing through the deeply philosophical underpinnings and noticing the shallow 'attempt at humor'. Which it was.

I suppose next you'll be drawing cartoons about Islam.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Just remember when you specifically pick out 3 players out of over average 40 that don't have the vaccine from each team it looks like you are only attacking the religious on the team, instead of the unvaccinated on the team....that is what I am spelling and pointing out.

You do realize Phil

That its just a matter of time before a new COVID variant produces an outbreak of non-vaccinated religious QB zombies.

Thanks for defending personal choice over the well-being of our species.

Good going.

If the well being of our species was of primary importance in the U.S., then ivermectin and a few other medications would have been given a fair shake.

I promise you if injecting Clorox or internal UVB would have saved lives, healthcare professionals would have done it. Convalescence continued to be used even after research showed it wasn't effective. To suggest that providers/public health policy decision makers (most are doctors) that have taken the Hippocratic Oath let politics, religion, or any other reason interfere with providing the best possible care is insulting.

I volunteered to work in our ED clinically during the first peak. While we were still getting images/news reports of body bags in New York. It was scary AF.

What evidence do you have to suggest that ivermectin was given a fair shake? I can cite plenty of studies that provide very strong clinical evidence that it's effective in the treatment of covid. Here's one:

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-98106/v1

"Results: In total, 585 participants, including 270 females and 305 males, were included. Of these, 159, 357, and 110 patients received hydroxychloroquine, nitazoxanide, and ivermectin, respectively, with similar baseline characteristics and time-to-treat between them. The three groups had similar duration of positive rtPCR-SARS-CoV-2, clinical disease duration and recovery speed. Of the 585 patients, none was hospitalized, needed mechanical ventilation, or died, and 1.5% persisted with symptoms after recovery."

Findings of this sort are not at all unusual.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Just remember when you specifically pick out 3 players out of over average 40 that don't have the vaccine from each team it looks like you are only attacking the religious on the team, instead of the unvaccinated on the team....that is what I am spelling and pointing out.

You do realize Phil

That its just a matter of time before a new COVID variant produces an outbreak of non-vaccinated religious QB zombies.

Thanks for defending personal choice over the well-being of our species.

Good going.

If the well being of our species was of primary importance in the U.S., then ivermectin and a few other medications would have been given a fair shake.

I promise you if injecting Clorox or internal UVB would have saved lives, healthcare professionals would have done it. Convalescence continued to be used even after research showed it wasn't effective. To suggest that providers/public health policy decision makers (most are doctors) that have taken the Hippocratic Oath let politics, religion, or any other reason interfere with providing the best possible care is insulting.

I volunteered to work in our ED clinically during the first peak. While we were still getting images/news reports of body bags in New York. It was scary AF.

What evidence do you have to suggest that ivermectin was given a fair shake? I can cite plenty of studies that provide very strong clinical evidence that it's effective in the treatment of covid. Here's one:

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-98106/v1

"Results: In total, 585 participants, including 270 females and 305 males, were included. Of these, 159, 357, and 110 patients received hydroxychloroquine, nitazoxanide, and ivermectin, respectively, with similar baseline characteristics and time-to-treat between them. The three groups had similar duration of positive rtPCR-SARS-CoV-2, clinical disease duration and recovery speed. Of the 585 patients, none was hospitalized, needed mechanical ventilation, or died, and 1.5% persisted with symptoms after recovery."

Findings of this sort are not at all unusual.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Just remember when you specifically pick out 3 players out of over average 40 that don't have the vaccine from each team it looks like you are only attacking the religious on the team, instead of the unvaccinated on the team....that is what I am spelling and pointing out.

You do realize Phil

That its just a matter of time before a new COVID variant produces an outbreak of non-vaccinated religious QB zombies.

Thanks for defending personal choice over the well-being of our species.

Good going.

If the well being of our species was of primary importance in the U.S., then ivermectin and a few other medications would have been given a fair shake.

I promise you if injecting Clorox or internal UVB would have saved lives, healthcare professionals would have done it. Convalescence continued to be used even after research showed it wasn't effective. To suggest that providers/public health policy decision makers (most are doctors) that have taken the Hippocratic Oath let politics, religion, or any other reason interfere with providing the best possible care is insulting.

I volunteered to work in our ED clinically during the first peak. While we were still getting images/news reports of body bags in New York. It was scary AF.

What evidence do you have to suggest that ivermectin was given a fair shake? I can cite plenty of studies that provide very strong clinical evidence that it's effective in the treatment of covid. Here's one:

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-98106/v1

"Results: In total, 585 participants, including 270 females and 305 males, were included. Of these, 159, 357, and 110 patients received hydroxychloroquine, nitazoxanide, and ivermectin, respectively, with similar baseline characteristics and time-to-treat between them. The three groups had similar duration of positive rtPCR-SARS-CoV-2, clinical disease duration and recovery speed. Of the 585 patients, none was hospitalized, needed mechanical ventilation, or died, and 1.5% persisted with symptoms after recovery."

Findings of this sort are not at all unusual.

Your study: At least when combined with azithromycin, and vitamin C, D and zinc in the majority of the cases.


https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2020/study-finds-over-80-percent-of-covid19-patients-have-vitamin-d-deficiency


Please stop.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

More from your study: overwhelmingly superior compared to untreated COVID-19 population So the results are compared to an untreated population?????????

Do you understand methodology? Ever calculated p value for research results? Written retrospective study?

More from your study: 5. Absence of clinical or radiological signs of progression to severe acute lung injury, including shortness of breath, oxygen saturation (SatO2) below 92%, and more than 25% of lungs affected in a chest computed tomography (CT) scan performed before entering in the study.


I'm logging off.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Just remember when you specifically pick out 3 players out of over average 40 that don't have the vaccine from each team it looks like you are only attacking the religious on the team, instead of the unvaccinated on the team....that is what I am spelling and pointing out.

You do realize Phil

That its just a matter of time before a new COVID variant produces an outbreak of non-vaccinated religious QB zombies.

Thanks for defending personal choice over the well-being of our species.

Good going.

If the well being of our species was of primary importance in the U.S., then ivermectin and a few other medications would have been given a fair shake.

I promise you if injecting Clorox or internal UVB would have saved lives, healthcare professionals would have done it. Convalescence continued to be used even after research showed it wasn't effective. To suggest that providers/public health policy decision makers (most are doctors) that have taken the Hippocratic Oath let politics, religion, or any other reason interfere with providing the best possible care is insulting.

I volunteered to work in our ED clinically during the first peak. While we were still getting images/news reports of body bags in New York. It was scary AF.

What evidence do you have to suggest that ivermectin was given a fair shake? I can cite plenty of studies that provide very strong clinical evidence that it's effective in the treatment of covid. Here's one:

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-98106/v1

"Results: In total, 585 participants, including 270 females and 305 males, were included. Of these, 159, 357, and 110 patients received hydroxychloroquine, nitazoxanide, and ivermectin, respectively, with similar baseline characteristics and time-to-treat between them. The three groups had similar duration of positive rtPCR-SARS-CoV-2, clinical disease duration and recovery speed. Of the 585 patients, none was hospitalized, needed mechanical ventilation, or died, and 1.5% persisted with symptoms after recovery."

Findings of this sort are not at all unusual.

Your study: At least when combined with azithromycin, and vitamin C, D and zinc in the majority of the cases.


https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2020/study-finds-over-80-percent-of-covid19-patients-have-vitamin-d-deficiency


Please stop.

It's well known that the re-purposed drugs need to be combined with zinc, vitamin D, and sometimes azithromycin. Why is that an issue?

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Just remember when you specifically pick out 3 players out of over average 40 that don't have the vaccine from each team it looks like you are only attacking the religious on the team, instead of the unvaccinated on the team....that is what I am spelling and pointing out.

You do realize Phil

That its just a matter of time before a new COVID variant produces an outbreak of non-vaccinated religious QB zombies.

Thanks for defending personal choice over the well-being of our species.

Good going.

If the well being of our species was of primary importance in the U.S., then ivermectin and a few other medications would have been given a fair shake.

I promise you if injecting Clorox or internal UVB would have saved lives, healthcare professionals would have done it. Convalescence continued to be used even after research showed it wasn't effective. To suggest that providers/public health policy decision makers (most are doctors) that have taken the Hippocratic Oath let politics, religion, or any other reason interfere with providing the best possible care is insulting.

I volunteered to work in our ED clinically during the first peak. While we were still getting images/news reports of body bags in New York. It was scary AF.

What evidence do you have to suggest that ivermectin was given a fair shake? I can cite plenty of studies that provide very strong clinical evidence that it's effective in the treatment of covid. Here's one:

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-98106/v1

"Results: In total, 585 participants, including 270 females and 305 males, were included. Of these, 159, 357, and 110 patients received hydroxychloroquine, nitazoxanide, and ivermectin, respectively, with similar baseline characteristics and time-to-treat between them. The three groups had similar duration of positive rtPCR-SARS-CoV-2, clinical disease duration and recovery speed. Of the 585 patients, none was hospitalized, needed mechanical ventilation, or died, and 1.5% persisted with symptoms after recovery."

Findings of this sort are not at all unusual.

Your study: At least when combined with azithromycin, and vitamin C, D and zinc in the majority of the cases.


https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2020/study-finds-over-80-percent-of-covid19-patients-have-vitamin-d-deficiency


Please stop.

It's well known that the re-purposed drugs need to be combined with zinc, vitamin D, and sometimes azithromycin. Why is that an issue?

Because 40+ COVI19 positive patient studies all point to vitamin D mitigating COVID-19.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3872/rr-5

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I'm having a hard time working out my feelings. If the player performs does it matter that you don't like the man? I think some are just asking for religious tolerance to a dangerous degree now.