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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Minnesota Vikings defensive tackle Jaylen Twyman was shot four times in Washington D.C.

His agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said it was a "wrong place, wrong time" for the rookie, who was in the nation's capital to visit his aunt, per ESPN's Adam Schefter.

"In talking to him today, he's going to be OK—that's all that matters," Rosenhaus said. "We're thankful he's OK. He will make a full recovery."

Schefter added more details:

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Vikings have been apprised of the situation with Jaylen Twyman, who was in a car when he was shot. There were superficial, exit wounds, Drew Rosenhaus said. Twyman does not need surgery. Xrays were negative. The anticipation is he will make a full recovery. https://t.co/6UjwkRV1bY

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Minnesota Vikings defensive tackle Jaylen Twyman was shot four times in Washington D.C.

His agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said it was a "wrong place, wrong time" for the rookie, who was in the nation's capital to visit his aunt, per ESPN's Adam Schefter.

"In talking to him today, he's going to be OK—that's all that matters," Rosenhaus said. "We're thankful he's OK. He will make a full recovery."

Schefter added more details:

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Vikings have been apprised of the situation with Jaylen Twyman, who was in a car when he was shot. There were superficial, exit wounds, Drew Rosenhaus said. Twyman does not need surgery. Xrays were negative. The anticipation is he will make a full recovery. https://t.co/6UjwkRV1bY

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Report: Chiefs’ Frank Clark Arrested After Police Allegedly Find Uzi in SUV

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ORIGINAL: marty

David O.

If you look at cases where there is a cause of death that is known, but the person had Covid-19 at the time of death, so it is listed as a Covid-19 death [which apparently gives millions of extra dollars for each and every case a hospital reports as a Covid-19 death], and you subtract all of these cases, then what do your estimates for Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. look like ?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Minnesota Vikings defensive tackle Jaylen Twyman was shot four times in Washington D.C.

His agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said it was a "wrong place, wrong time" for the rookie, who was in the nation's capital to visit his aunt, per ESPN's Adam Schefter.

"In talking to him today, he's going to be OK—that's all that matters," Rosenhaus said. "We're thankful he's OK. He will make a full recovery."

Schefter added more details:

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Vikings have been apprised of the situation with Jaylen Twyman, who was in a car when he was shot. There were superficial, exit wounds, Drew Rosenhaus said. Twyman does not need surgery. Xrays were negative. The anticipation is he will make a full recovery. https://t.co/6UjwkRV1bY

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Tate would appear to be the savvy vet type to help cover one of those Thursday practice injuries to JJ or AT.

We started the season with a lot of positions needing attention. While the jury is out on how good the new acquisitions will be, the regime did at least address most all needs. Besides WR, I'd like to see them get a DE even if he is a one-dimensional pass rusher. As a minimum, that DE could battle Wonnum and the rookies. Maybe Weatherly can put it all together and be the pass rusher we need, but I have doubts.

I'd also like to see a veteran RG, who can push Dozier out of the lineup if Davis isn't ready.

Weatherly is a physical freak of nature. Just looked up his combine #s. The copy and paste is a bit difficult to read. Sorry.
Here's the link. https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=22195

Percentiles by Size and Position
Event Event Score % By OLB % By Size
Height 76.38" 95.8 --
Weight 267 lbs 99.6 --
Hand Size 10.25" 86.6 74.2
Arm Length 34.50" 96.1 86.3
40 Yd 4.61 sec 84 92.8
20 Yd 2.67 sec 81.2 95.2
10 Yd 1.59 sec 84.5 99.2
Bench 23 reps 66.3 58.5
Vertical 31.0" 21.8 46.8
Broad Jump 117" 57.5 74

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Tate would appear to be the savvy vet type to help cover one of those Thursday practice injuries to JJ or AT.

We started the season with a lot of positions needing attention. While the jury is out on how good the new acquisitions will be, the regime did at least address most all needs. Besides WR, I'd like to see them get a DE even if he is a one-dimensional pass rusher. As a minimum, that DE could battle Wonnum and the rookies. Maybe Weatherly can put it all together and be the pass rusher we need, but I have doubts.

I'd also like to see a veteran RG, who can push Dozier out of the lineup if Davis isn't ready.

Weatherly is a physical freak of nature. Just looked up his combine #s. The copy and paste is a bit difficult to read. Sorry.
Here's the link. https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=22195

Percentiles by Size and Position
Event Event Score % By OLB % By Size
Height 76.38" 95.8 --
Weight 267 lbs 99.6 --
Hand Size 10.25" 86.6 74.2
Arm Length 34.50" 96.1 86.3
40 Yd 4.61 sec 84 92.8
20 Yd 2.67 sec 81.2 95.2
10 Yd 1.59 sec 84.5 99.2
Bench 23 reps 66.3 58.5
Vertical 31.0" 21.8 46.8
Broad Jump 117" 57.5 74

weatherly works well in zimmer's system...early downs he's very good against the run from the DE spot - he can run down RB's and QB's on the outside...on passing downs we were kicking him inside and that's why his sack numbers are low....






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ORIGINAL: marty

David O.

If you look at cases where there is a cause of death that is known, but the person had Covid-19 at the time of death, so it is listed as a Covid-19 death [which apparently gives millions of extra dollars for each and every case a hospital reports as a Covid-19 death], and you subtract all of these cases, then what do your estimates for Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. look like ?

Millions of extra dollars per case? Conspiracy theories getting richer by the day....literally.

But to answer your question: If you subtract out all of the COVID deaths for which hospitals enriched themselves, you'd get the exact same number of COVID deaths. This isn't a thing.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: marty

David O.

If you look at cases where there is a cause of death that is known, but the person had Covid-19 at the time of death, so it is listed as a Covid-19 death [which apparently gives millions of extra dollars for each and every case a hospital reports as a Covid-19 death], and you subtract all of these cases, then what do your estimates for Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. look like ?

Millions of extra dollars per case? Conspiracy theories getting richer by the day....literally.

But to answer your question: If you subtract out all of the COVID deaths for which hospitals enriched themselves, you'd get the exact same number of COVID deaths. This isn't a thing.

To be fair he did say "apparently" gives millions of extra dollars for each and every case. Weird he didn't say how many millions of "extra" dollars.

Apparently = Facebook or Tin Foil Hat sourced. Flip a coin.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: marty

David O.

If you look at cases where there is a cause of death that is known, but the person had Covid-19 at the time of death, so it is listed as a Covid-19 death [which apparently gives millions of extra dollars for each and every case a hospital reports as a Covid-19 death], and you subtract all of these cases, then what do your estimates for Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. look like ?

Millions of extra dollars per case? Conspiracy theories getting richer by the day....literally.

But to answer your question: If you subtract out all of the COVID deaths for which hospitals enriched themselves, you'd get the exact same number of COVID deaths. This isn't a thing.

To be fair he did say "apparently" gives millions of extra dollars for each and every case. Weird he didn't say how many millions of "extra" dollars.

Apparently = Facebook or Tin Foil Hat sourced. Flip a coin.

Medicare pays extra money to hospitals for treating covid-19 (about $13,000), not for attributing deaths to covid-19. When they fill out a death certificate, doctors are required to list ALL contributing factors. If someone dies of cancer while being infected with covid-19, both will be listed on the death certificate.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: marty

David O.

If you look at cases where there is a cause of death that is known, but the person had Covid-19 at the time of death, so it is listed as a Covid-19 death [which apparently gives millions of extra dollars for each and every case a hospital reports as a Covid-19 death], and you subtract all of these cases, then what do your estimates for Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. look like ?

Millions of extra dollars per case? Conspiracy theories getting richer by the day....literally.

But to answer your question: If you subtract out all of the COVID deaths for which hospitals enriched themselves, you'd get the exact same number of COVID deaths. This isn't a thing.

To be fair he did say "apparently" gives millions of extra dollars for each and every case. Weird he didn't say how many millions of "extra" dollars.

Apparently = Facebook or Tin Foil Hat sourced. Flip a coin.

Medicare pays extra money to hospitals for treating covid-19 (about $13,000), not for attributing deaths to covid-19. When they fill out a death certificate, doctors are required to list ALL contributing factors. If someone dies of cancer while being infected with covid-19, both will be listed on the death certificate.

Why??

If someone had a broken leg and died of cancer, cancer is the cause of death.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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"Twyman was in a vehicle when he was shot four times, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, told ESPN's Adam Schefter. He's expected to make a full recovery.

Twyman was shot in the arm, leg, ass, and shoulder, Rosenhaus told Schefter Tuesday. Twyman is expected to be released from the hospital this week and "there doesn't appear to be any long-term injuries that would prohibit him from playing this season," according to Rosenhaus."....espn

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: marty

David O.

If you look at cases where there is a cause of death that is known, but the person had Covid-19 at the time of death, so it is listed as a Covid-19 death [which apparently gives millions of extra dollars for each and every case a hospital reports as a Covid-19 death], and you subtract all of these cases, then what do your estimates for Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. look like ?

Millions of extra dollars per case? Conspiracy theories getting richer by the day....literally.

But to answer your question: If you subtract out all of the COVID deaths for which hospitals enriched themselves, you'd get the exact same number of COVID deaths. This isn't a thing.

To be fair he did say "apparently" gives millions of extra dollars for each and every case. Weird he didn't say how many millions of "extra" dollars.

Apparently = Facebook or Tin Foil Hat sourced. Flip a coin.

Medicare pays extra money to hospitals for treating covid-19 (about $13,000), not for attributing deaths to covid-19. When they fill out a death certificate, doctors are required to list ALL contributing factors. If someone dies of cancer while being infected with covid-19, both will be listed on the death certificate.

Why??

If someone had a broken leg and died of cancer, cancer is the cause of death.

And the fracture would still be listed on the certificate. Death certificates require all physical anomalies be listed. This precedes covid-19.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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"Twyman was in a vehicle when he was shot four times, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, told ESPN's Adam Schefter. He's expected to make a full recovery.

Twyman was shot in the arm, leg, ass, and shoulder, Rosenhaus told Schefter Tuesday. Twyman is expected to be released from the hospital this week and "there doesn't appear to be any long-term injuries that would prohibit him from playing this season," according to Rosenhaus."....espn

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: marty

David O.

If you look at cases where there is a cause of death that is known, but the person had Covid-19 at the time of death, so it is listed as a Covid-19 death [which apparently gives millions of extra dollars for each and every case a hospital reports as a Covid-19 death], and you subtract all of these cases, then what do your estimates for Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. look like ?

Millions of extra dollars per case? Conspiracy theories getting richer by the day....literally.

But to answer your question: If you subtract out all of the COVID deaths for which hospitals enriched themselves, you'd get the exact same number of COVID deaths. This isn't a thing.

To be fair he did say "apparently" gives millions of extra dollars for each and every case. Weird he didn't say how many millions of "extra" dollars.

Apparently = Facebook or Tin Foil Hat sourced. Flip a coin.

Medicare pays extra money to hospitals for treating covid-19 (about $13,000), not for attributing deaths to covid-19. When they fill out a death certificate, doctors are required to list ALL contributing factors. If someone dies of cancer while being infected with covid-19, both will be listed on the death certificate.

Why??

If someone had a broken leg and died of cancer, cancer is the cause of death.

And the fracture would still be listed on the certificate. Death certificates require all physical anomalies be listed. This precedes covid-19.

Okay.

But, does the example you listed above get counted as one of our 600K covid deaths?

I think it does because ND has the 2 different categories for Covid. With covid or from covid.

The total of both numbers is listed on the national website. Not just the 'From Covid' category.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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"Twyman was in a vehicle when he was shot four times, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, told ESPN's Adam Schefter. He's expected to make a full recovery.

Twyman was shot in the arm, leg, ass, and shoulder, Rosenhaus told Schefter Tuesday. Twyman is expected to be released from the hospital this week and "there doesn't appear to be any long-term injuries that would prohibit him from playing this season," according to Rosenhaus."....espn

Twyman is very lucky indeed. Apparently all of his wounds were flesh wounds with no bullets lodged anywhere in his body. No surgeries. Just needs time for the wounds to heal up. It's really sad. This wasn't a case of someone being out at a club until 3 AM and getting into a scuffle. Twyman was in a car, just coming from visiting his aunt.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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"Twyman was in a vehicle when he was shot four times, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, told ESPN's Adam Schefter. He's expected to make a full recovery.

Twyman was shot in the arm, leg, ass, and shoulder, Rosenhaus told Schefter Tuesday. Twyman is expected to be released from the hospital this week and "there doesn't appear to be any long-term injuries that would prohibit him from playing this season," according to Rosenhaus."....espn

Twyman is very lucky indeed. Apparently all of his wounds were flesh wounds with no bullets lodged anywhere in his body. No surgeries. Just needs time for the wounds to heal up. It's really sad. This wasn't a case of someone being out at a club until 3 AM and getting into a scuffle. Twyman was in a car, just coming from visiting his aunt.

More info is needed.

Was this just someone spraying bullets at cars with an Uzi?

Who's car was he in? Was the driver the target? Was twyman the target?

Or was it just random?

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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"Twyman was in a vehicle when he was shot four times, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, told ESPN's Adam Schefter. He's expected to make a full recovery.

Twyman was shot in the arm, leg, ass, and shoulder, Rosenhaus told Schefter Tuesday. Twyman is expected to be released from the hospital this week and "there doesn't appear to be any long-term injuries that would prohibit him from playing this season," according to Rosenhaus."....espn

Twyman is very lucky indeed. Apparently all of his wounds were flesh wounds with no bullets lodged anywhere in his body. No surgeries. Just needs time for the wounds to heal up. It's really sad. This wasn't a case of someone being out at a club until 3 AM and getting into a scuffle. Twyman was in a car, just coming from visiting his aunt.

More info is needed.

Was this just someone spraying bullets at cars with an Uzi?

Who's car was he in? Was the driver the target? Was twyman the target?

Or was it just random?

I haven't read anything more detailed than being in the wrong place at the wrong time. There is no indication that Twyman was targeted.

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I could be wrong, but I think that component varies from state to state. I don't know how it affects the 600,000 figure, but as far as extra money paid, it makes no difference. Hospitals get compensated for treating covid, not for reporting covid deaths.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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"Twyman was in a vehicle when he was shot four times, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, told ESPN's Adam Schefter. He's expected to make a full recovery.

Twyman was shot in the arm, leg, ass, and shoulder, Rosenhaus told Schefter Tuesday. Twyman is expected to be released from the hospital this week and "there doesn't appear to be any long-term injuries that would prohibit him from playing this season," according to Rosenhaus."....espn

Twyman is very lucky indeed. Apparently all of his wounds were flesh wounds with no bullets lodged anywhere in his body. No surgeries. Just needs time for the wounds to heal up. It's really sad. This wasn't a case of someone being out at a club until 3 AM and getting into a scuffle. Twyman was in a car, just coming from visiting his aunt.

More info is needed.

Was this just someone spraying bullets at cars with an Uzi?

Who's car was he in? Was the driver the target? Was twyman the target?

Or was it just random?

I haven't read anything more detailed than being in the wrong place at the wrong time. There is no indication that Twyman was targeted.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to gun violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.