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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 3:50:22 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 4:19:22 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to gun violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


Wow. That must be a real shit hole.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 4:27:04 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 4:40:33 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 4:49:22 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 4:50:07 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 5:15:06 PM  7 votes
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 5:27:37 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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I guess sometimes it's OK to blindly attribute excess deaths during an epidemic to a cause related to the epidemic, and sometimes it's not.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 5:28:50 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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I'm for more thorough background checks.

But, banning ARs won't stop drive byes by criminals with pistols and illegal ARs.

Criminals love restrictive gun laws and gun free zones. Easier when no one shoots back.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 5:33:39 PM  2 votes
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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Ask Jaylen Twyman if I am wrong? I don't think it was deer hunters who grazed him with 4 bullets.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 5:44:45 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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Ask Jaylen Twyman if I am wrong? I don't think it was deer hunters who grazed him with 4 bullets.


So every crime committed with a gun is by a gang member?

What gang is Kyle Rittenhouse a part of?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 5:46:56 PM   
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And I'm not saying the shooting wasn't gang related. It very well may have been. But maybe we should stick to the reported facts.

You seem awfully quick on the trigger to change "gun" to "GANG"...
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 5:57:13 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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I'm for more thorough background checks.

But, banning ARs won't stop drive byes by criminals with pistols and illegal ARs.

Criminals love restrictive gun laws and gun free zones. Easier when no one shoots back.

OLD????


Is this part of the 'good guy with a gun' argument? How's that working out? There have never been more legal guns on the street. Is anyone safer? Can we not try to see if some common sense gun laws work?

I say this as someone who hunts and has a conceal and carry permit. One of the biggest problems we have with crime is the fact that EVERYONE is packing. Why don't the good guys with guns stop anything? Those stories are few and far between. Hell Texas just passed a law that says you don't even need a permit to carry anymore. Truly Wild West baby. Yeehaw

Link to gun sales by year: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-sales-record-high-2020/
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 6:03:43 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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I'm for more thorough background checks.

But, banning ARs won't stop drive byes by criminals with pistols and illegal ARs.

Criminals love restrictive gun laws and gun free zones. Easier when no one shoots back.

OLD????


Is this part of the 'good guy with a gun' argument? How's that working out? There have never been more legal guns on the street. Is anyone safer? Can we not try to see if some common sense gun laws work?

I say this as someone who hunts and has a conceal and carry permit. One of the biggest problems we have with crime is the fact that EVERYONE is packing. Why don't the good guys with guns stop anything? Those stories are few and far between. Hell Texas just passed a law that says you don't even need a permit to carry anymore. Truly Wild West baby. Yeehaw

Link to gun sales by year: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-sales-record-high-2020/

I'm for more thorough background checks.

What do you suggest?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 6:08:51 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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Ask Jaylen Twyman if I am wrong? I don't think it was deer hunters who grazed him with 4 bullets.


So every crime committed with a gun is by a gang member?

What gang is Kyle Rittenhouse a part of?

Every crime. LOL We are talking about Jaylen Twyman and what he has said about the area.

You guys try too hard to label people. It's like a pack waiting to pounce. Shit gets old.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 6:30:27 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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Ask Jaylen Twyman if I am wrong? I don't think it was deer hunters who grazed him with 4 bullets.


So every crime committed with a gun is by a gang member?

What gang is Kyle Rittenhouse a part of?

Every crime. LOL We are talking about Jaylen Twyman and what he has said about the area.

You guys try too hard to label people. It's like a pack waiting to pounce. Shit gets old.


You know that's EXACTLY what you did, right?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 6:47:23 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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I'm for more thorough background checks.

But, banning ARs won't stop drive byes by criminals with pistols and illegal ARs.

Criminals love restrictive gun laws and gun free zones. Easier when no one shoots back.

OLD????


Is this part of the 'good guy with a gun' argument? How's that working out? There have never been more legal guns on the street. Is anyone safer? Can we not try to see if some common sense gun laws work?

I say this as someone who hunts and has a conceal and carry permit. One of the biggest problems we have with crime is the fact that EVERYONE is packing. Why don't the good guys with guns stop anything? Those stories are few and far between. Hell Texas just passed a law that says you don't even need a permit to carry anymore. Truly Wild West baby. Yeehaw

Link to gun sales by year: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-sales-record-high-2020/

I'm for more thorough background checks.

What do you suggest?


Background checks are great. I don't think there is any need for a private citizen to own an assault rifle. You don't need it to hunt.

If you're worried about the government, and trying to fight back against some sort of imaginary crackdown or government takeover, an assault rifle isn't going to help. They would just send a drone. Having a bunch of guns isn't going to help and as a matter of fact may hurt because if you aren't using a rotary phone, chances are a nefarious government would know pretty much everything about you, and use that against you.

I don't see the utility for home defense because a handgun would likely be more accessible and realistic to use quickly; which let's face it, home defense would almost always require quick use.

So I'd start with a buyback program. For any unnecessary guns really, but especially assault rifles. Quit new assault rifle sales entirely. Pair it with additional resources dedicated to mental health. I'm not foolish enough to believe significant change happens overnight. It really does need to start somewhere though. We are the only country where mass shootings are more than a one day news story anymore. We're numb to it - and I'm tired of the 'oh well, what can you do, thoughts and prayers' attitude.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 7:14:48 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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I'm for more thorough background checks.

But, banning ARs won't stop drive byes by criminals with pistols and illegal ARs.

Criminals love restrictive gun laws and gun free zones. Easier when no one shoots back.

OLD????


Is this part of the 'good guy with a gun' argument? How's that working out? There have never been more legal guns on the street. Is anyone safer? Can we not try to see if some common sense gun laws work?

I say this as someone who hunts and has a conceal and carry permit. One of the biggest problems we have with crime is the fact that EVERYONE is packing. Why don't the good guys with guns stop anything? Those stories are few and far between. Hell Texas just passed a law that says you don't even need a permit to carry anymore. Truly Wild West baby. Yeehaw

Link to gun sales by year: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-sales-record-high-2020/

I'm for more thorough background checks.

What do you suggest?


Background checks are great. I don't think there is any need for a private citizen to own an assault rifle. You don't need it to hunt.

If you're worried about the government, and trying to fight back against some sort of imaginary crackdown or government takeover, an assault rifle isn't going to help. They would just send a drone. Having a bunch of guns isn't going to help and as a matter of fact may hurt because if you aren't using a rotary phone, chances are a nefarious government would know pretty much everything about you, and use that against you.

I don't see the utility for home defense because a handgun would likely be more accessible and realistic to use quickly; which let's face it, home defense would almost always require quick use.

So I'd start with a buyback program. For any unnecessary guns really, but especially assault rifles. Quit new assault rifle sales entirely. Pair it with additional resources dedicated to mental health. I'm not foolish enough to believe significant change happens overnight. It really does need to start somewhere though. We are the only country where mass shootings are more than a one day news story anymore. We're numb to it - and I'm tired of the 'oh well, what can you do, thoughts and prayers' attitude.

This really is a public health problem, and along with other stuff like the above, you have to start looking at it like you would any cause of unnecessary death, up and down from birth to death, in the context of the decedent's immediate environment, etc., just like infant mortality, deaths during labor, cancer clusters, and on and on.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 8:30:32 PM   
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The shooting occurred in the District’s Lincoln Heights section, where Twyman was raised. The 6-foot-2, 290-pound lineman who played college ball at Pittsburgh had previously lost two relatives to GANG violence, the Washington Post reported.

“My family members, every other week, one of them deceased or one of them just in a shootout or one of them locked up,” Twyman told the newspaper in 2016. “It’s just pushed me to try to get everybody, get all my family members, out of poverty. Nobody needs to be around this.”

Twyman’s uncle was killed during a drive-by shooting in 2014 roughly a half-mile from Monday’s shooting scene. In 2010, Twyman’s older brother was killed less than a mile from where he was shot, the newspaper reported.


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Ask Jaylen Twyman if I am wrong? I don't think it was deer hunters who grazed him with 4 bullets.


So every crime committed with a gun is by a gang member?

What gang is Kyle Rittenhouse a part of?

Every crime. LOL We are talking about Jaylen Twyman and what he has said about the area.

You guys try too hard to label people. It's like a pack waiting to pounce. Shit gets old.


You know that's EXACTLY what you did, right?

Labeled people as labelers!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 8:34:07 PM   
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You mean offseason bitch fest?

About guns and covid
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 9:58:39 PM   
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You mean offseason bitch fest?

About guns and covid

Lawyers, guns, and COVID
The shit has hit the fan.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/22/2021 11:22:57 PM   
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"Twyman was in a vehicle when he was shot four times, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, told ESPN's Adam Schefter. He's expected to make a full recovery.

Twyman was shot in the arm, leg, ass, and shoulder, Rosenhaus told Schefter Tuesday. Twyman is expected to be released from the hospital this week and "there doesn't appear to be any long-term injuries that would prohibit him from playing this season," according to Rosenhaus."....espn


Shot in the ass, huh?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/23/2021 10:10:19 AM   
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"Twyman was in a vehicle when he was shot four times, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, told ESPN's Adam Schefter. He's expected to make a full recovery.

Twyman was shot in the arm, leg, ass, and shoulder, Rosenhaus told Schefter Tuesday. Twyman is expected to be released from the hospital this week and "there doesn't appear to be any long-term injuries that would prohibit him from playing this season," according to Rosenhaus."....espn


Shot in the ass, huh?


Why is his agent so nonchalant? Shotgun pellets in fatty tissue? Tiny bullets slowed down by going through a car door?

I'm baffled. If there is any muscle damage, for example, I'd think that recovery to professional level sports would take a while.

If this incident really is a nothing burger, I'll be amazed.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/23/2021 11:25:19 AM   
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below is an explanation of hunter's revised contract - imo it looks very advantageous for the Vikings, the details not being what many journalists had described...the new deal is through the 2023 season like before...the balance on the new deal is the exact amount that was on the original contract, but we're giving much of it to hunter upfront - $5m+ in 2021 and $18m in 2022 - to keep the salary cap hits low, the $18m can be converted into a signing bonus that is spread out through the remaining '22 and '23 years and two dead years beyond that....

people talk about it like they expect the vikings and hunter's people to work out another new deal in early 2022, but if that doesn't happen this deal will suffice....



Hunter’s deal originally had three years remaining, and in the reworking Corry said the Vikings added two voidable years, but that they have added no new money. Most notably, the Vikings moved $7.25 million of salary from 2023 to 2022 and provided an $18 million roster bonus due on the fifth day of the new league year next March. Corry said the $18 million could end up being converted to a signing bonus and spread out over four years.

It’s likely the deal will be redone again in some manner by next March. But in the event there are issues with negotiations, Corry said there is language in the contract likely eliminating any possibility of a 2022 holdout by Hunter.

“If they’re at an impasse, they’re miles apart, they’ll convert the ($18 million) bonus and then go from there,” Corry said on the podcast. “And he’s now boxed himself in where he will lose this $18 million if he has a training-camp holdout. Smart move by the Vikings. … They didn’t give him a hammer of leverage where they’re basically at his mercy and have to do what he wants to get done, and otherwise they have to cut him.”

NFL Media previously reported some details on Hunter’s contract. Corry confirmed Hunter will have $5.6 million of his $12.15 million base salary in 2021 converted to a signing bonus. Because two voidable years were added to the deal, there will be $1.12 million counting on the salary cap in each of next five seasons through 2025, enabling Minnesota to save $4.48 million on the cap in 2021.

Corry said on the podcast that Hunter’s cap number will drop from $17.25 million to $12.77 million in 2021. He said the Vikings will pay his $100,000 workout bonus even though he missed OTAs and will guarantee a $500,000 roster bonus he has for games played. So that leaves him with all of his $12.75 million guaranteed in 2021 after previously having just $3.3 million guaranteed.

Although Hunter’s contract is likely to be reworked by next March, Corry said Hunter is now on the books for a $26.12 million cap number in 2022, but it could be dropped to $12.62 million if the $18 million roster bonus is turned into a signing bonus and spread out. In addition to the $18 million, Hunter also has on the books in 2022 a $1.4 million base salary, a $500,000 roster bonus for games played and a $100,000 workout bonus.

Corry said Hunter is now on the books in 2023 for a $4.9 million base salary, $500,000 games-played bonus and a $100,000 workout bonus for a total of $5.5 million. Corry said a total of $38.25 million had been left on Hunter’s contract before the reworking, and that hasn’t changed.

With the Vikings saving $4.48 million on the cap for 2021, they now have about $14.8 million of cap room. That number will drop to about $14.5 million when third-round draft picks Chazz Surratt, Wyatt Davis and Patrick Jones II are signed since they will displace other players on Minnesota’s top-51 salary list.


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 6/23/2021 11:48:36 AM   
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below is an explanation of hunter's revised contract - imo it looks very advantageous for the Vikings, the details not being what many journalists had described...the new deal is through the 2023 season like before...the balance on the new deal is the exact amount that was on the original contract, but we're giving much of it to hunter upfront - $5m+ in 2021 and $18m in 2022 - to keep the salary cap hits low, the $18m can be converted into a signing bonus that is spread out through the remaining '22 and '23 years and two dead years beyond that....

people talk about it like they expect the vikings and hunter's people to work out another new deal in early 2022, but if that doesn't happen this deal will suffice....



Hunter’s deal originally had three years remaining, and in the reworking Corry said the Vikings added two voidable years, but that they have added no new money. Most notably, the Vikings moved $7.25 million of salary from 2023 to 2022 and provided an $18 million roster bonus due on the fifth day of the new league year next March. Corry said the $18 million could end up being converted to a signing bonus and spread out over four years.

It’s likely the deal will be redone again in some manner by next March. But in the event there are issues with negotiations, Corry said there is language in the contract likely eliminating any possibility of a 2022 holdout by Hunter.

“If they’re at an impasse, they’re miles apart, they’ll convert the ($18 million) bonus and then go from there,” Corry said on the podcast. “And he’s now boxed himself in where he will lose this $18 million if he has a training-camp holdout. Smart move by the Vikings. … They didn’t give him a hammer of leverage where they’re basically at his mercy and have to do what he wants to get done, and otherwise they have to cut him.”

NFL Media previously reported some details on Hunter’s contract. Corry confirmed Hunter will have $5.6 million of his $12.15 million base salary in 2021 converted to a signing bonus. Because two voidable years were added to the deal, there will be $1.12 million counting on the salary cap in each of next five seasons through 2025, enabling Minnesota to save $4.48 million on the cap in 2021.

Corry said on the podcast that Hunter’s cap number will drop from $17.25 million to $12.77 million in 2021. He said the Vikings will pay his $100,000 workout bonus even though he missed OTAs and will guarantee a $500,000 roster bonus he has for games played. So that leaves him with all of his $12.75 million guaranteed in 2021 after previously having just $3.3 million guaranteed.

Although Hunter’s contract is likely to be reworked by next March, Corry said Hunter is now on the books for a $26.12 million cap number in 2022, but it could be dropped to $12.62 million if the $18 million roster bonus is turned into a signing bonus and spread out. In addition to the $18 million, Hunter also has on the books in 2022 a $1.4 million base salary, a $500,000 roster bonus for games played and a $100,000 workout bonus.

Corry said Hunter is now on the books in 2023 for a $4.9 million base salary, $500,000 games-played bonus and a $100,000 workout bonus for a total of $5.5 million. Corry said a total of $38.25 million had been left on Hunter’s contract before the reworking, and that hasn’t changed.

With the Vikings saving $4.48 million on the cap for 2021, they now have about $14.8 million of cap room. That number will drop to about $14.5 million when third-round draft picks Chazz Surratt, Wyatt Davis and Patrick Jones II are signed since they will displace other players on Minnesota’s top-51 salary list.



So essentially the only good for Hunter out of this is "So that leaves him with all of his $12.75 million guaranteed in 2021 after previously having just $3.3 million guaranteed."? I understand wanting the money guaranteed, but what would have driven his worries about not getting it all anyway?
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