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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 1:40:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

There are plenty of reasons why Cousins isn't a good qb.

-Doesn't take care of the football
-Holds the ball too long
-Poor pocket presence
-Abysmal in the last 2min of the first half and end of games (2min drill)
-Primetime record 7-16
-A putrid 4-24 against teams with a winning record

Whenever anyone describes Cousin there is always the caveat "For Kirk to be effective everything needs to be on schedule around him"

Does a good job taking care of the football.
Has the courage to hold the ball long enough to make the play.
Good pocket presence
Just fine in 2 minute drill.
Who gives a F about Prime time. Just a game no different than any other.
Teams win or lose. Not the QB.

I swear to God ... you care less about accuracy than anyone else on this board.

My statement was fully accurate. Of course you will say that's inaccurate.

No just a bit misleading, as you meant it

Now I'm confused. My take on Kirk is that he's a very good QB and talented at about every facet of playing the position.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 2:01:38 PM   
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-announces-salary-cap-ceiling-185359543.html

Haven't confirmed, but 208M is a pretty big jump.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 2:08:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Pager

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-announces-salary-cap-ceiling-185359543.html

Haven't confirmed, but 208M is a pretty big jump.


Pat Kirwan said he thinks it will hit $350 million within four seasons. He cites the new tv deal that was just struck

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 2:11:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-announces-salary-cap-ceiling-185359543.html

Haven't confirmed, but 208M is a pretty big jump.


Pat Kirwan said he thinks it will hit $350 million within four seasons. He cites the new tv deal that was just struck



It will be fun to watch people lose their minds when Cousins is getting 55M/yr.

< Message edited by Pager -- 5/27/2021 2:13:36 PM >


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 2:15:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-announces-salary-cap-ceiling-185359543.html

Haven't confirmed, but 208M is a pretty big jump.


Pat Kirwan said he thinks it will hit $350 million within four seasons. He cites the new tv deal that was just struck



It will be fun to watch people lose their minds when Cousins is getting 55M/yr.


It will create a need for a mountain of extensions and restructures.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 2:32:39 PM   
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Over/under in days for a poster to use $208M as THE cap figure for next year is 45.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 3:05:11 PM   
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Over/under in days for a poster to use $208M as THE cap figure for next year is 45.


Read that GB is already $20 some million over Bill's cap figure for 22....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 4:22:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

There are plenty of reasons why Cousins isn't a good qb.

-Doesn't take care of the football
-Holds the ball too long
-Poor pocket presence
-Abysmal in the last 2min of the first half and end of games (2min drill)
-Primetime record 7-16
-A putrid 4-24 against teams with a winning record

Whenever anyone describes Cousin there is always the caveat "For Kirk to be effective everything needs to be on schedule around him"

Does a good job taking care of the football.
Has the courage to hold the ball long enough to make the play.
Good pocket presence
Just fine in 2 minute drill.
Who gives a F about Prime time. Just a game no different than any other.
Teams win or lose. Not the QB.

I swear to God ... you care less about accuracy than anyone else on this board.

My statement was fully accurate. Of course you will say that's inaccurate.

No just a bit misleading, as you meant it

Now I'm confused. My take on Kirk is that he's a very good QB and talented at about every facet of playing the position.

Those are some real thick purple goggles your wearing.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 5:07:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

There are plenty of reasons why Cousins isn't a good qb.

-Doesn't take care of the football
-Holds the ball too long
-Poor pocket presence
-Abysmal in the last 2min of the first half and end of games (2min drill)
-Primetime record 7-16
-A putrid 4-24 against teams with a winning record

Whenever anyone describes Cousin there is always the caveat "For Kirk to be effective everything needs to be on schedule around him"

Does a good job taking care of the football.
Has the courage to hold the ball long enough to make the play.
Good pocket presence
Just fine in 2 minute drill.
Who gives a F about Prime time. Just a game no different than any other.
Teams win or lose. Not the QB.

I swear to God ... you care less about accuracy than anyone else on this board.

My statement was fully accurate. Of course you will say that's inaccurate.

No just a bit misleading, as you meant it

Now I'm confused. My take on Kirk is that he's a very good QB and talented at about every facet of playing the position.


I actually thought I was replying to David F. It had all the earmarks. Still your post was a bit misleading, although possibly not intentionally.

< Message edited by thebigo -- 5/27/2021 5:08:54 PM >
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 5:10:26 PM   
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Kirk Cousins is Jay Cutler + accurate throws

Kirk Cousins is Aaron Rodgers - pocket movement

I can't picture him being consistently clutch, but with a decent OL, all he needs is a little "You like that ?" chip on his shoulder and a SB win is a possibility.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 5:14:15 PM   
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Aaron Rodgers will become Kirk Cousins in his later years, should he lose his mobility.

I think Rodgers will become Cousins in 2 years, maybe this year, if he goes to a poor team.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 6:08:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

There are plenty of reasons why Cousins isn't a good qb.

-Doesn't take care of the football
-Holds the ball too long
-Poor pocket presence
-Abysmal in the last 2min of the first half and end of games (2min drill)
-Primetime record 7-16
-A putrid 4-24 against teams with a winning record

Whenever anyone describes Cousin there is always the caveat "For Kirk to be effective everything needs to be on schedule around him"

Does a good job taking care of the football.
Has the courage to hold the ball long enough to make the play.
Good pocket presence
Just fine in 2 minute drill.
Who gives a F about Prime time. Just a game no different than any other.
Teams win or lose. Not the QB.

I swear to God ... you care less about accuracy than anyone else on this board.

My statement was fully accurate. Of course you will say that's inaccurate.

No just a bit misleading, as you meant it

Now I'm confused. My take on Kirk is that he's a very good QB and talented at about every facet of playing the position.

Those are some real thick purple goggles your wearing.

If you say so. I think I have a very realistic view on the situation.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 6:09:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

There are plenty of reasons why Cousins isn't a good qb.

-Doesn't take care of the football
-Holds the ball too long
-Poor pocket presence
-Abysmal in the last 2min of the first half and end of games (2min drill)
-Primetime record 7-16
-A putrid 4-24 against teams with a winning record

Whenever anyone describes Cousin there is always the caveat "For Kirk to be effective everything needs to be on schedule around him"

Does a good job taking care of the football.
Has the courage to hold the ball long enough to make the play.
Good pocket presence
Just fine in 2 minute drill.
Who gives a F about Prime time. Just a game no different than any other.
Teams win or lose. Not the QB.

I swear to God ... you care less about accuracy than anyone else on this board.

My statement was fully accurate. Of course you will say that's inaccurate.

No just a bit misleading, as you meant it

Now I'm confused. My take on Kirk is that he's a very good QB and talented at about every facet of playing the position.


I actually thought I was replying to David F. It had all the earmarks. Still your post was a bit misleading, although possibly not intentionally.

I'm trying to figure out the part that could have been misleading. Just my opinion backed up with a lot of statistical facts.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 9:45:15 PM   
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Some positive news on Hunter:
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/27/2021 10:13:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

There are plenty of reasons why Cousins isn't a good qb.

-Doesn't take care of the football
-Holds the ball too long
-Poor pocket presence
-Abysmal in the last 2min of the first half and end of games (2min drill)
-Primetime record 7-16
-A putrid 4-24 against teams with a winning record

Whenever anyone describes Cousin there is always the caveat "For Kirk to be effective everything needs to be on schedule around him"

Does a good job taking care of the football.
Has the courage to hold the ball long enough to make the play.
Good pocket presence
Just fine in 2 minute drill.
Who gives a F about Prime time. Just a game no different than any other.
Teams win or lose. Not the QB.

I swear to God ... you care less about accuracy than anyone else on this board.

My statement was fully accurate. Of course you will say that's inaccurate.

No just a bit misleading, as you meant it

Now I'm confused. My take on Kirk is that he's a very good QB and talented at about every facet of playing the position.


I actually thought I was replying to David F. It had all the earmarks. Still your post was a bit misleading, although possibly not intentionally.

I'm trying to figure out the part that could have been misleading. Just my opinion backed up with a lot of statistical facts.


Sorry wrong mini thread
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/28/2021 8:12:22 AM   
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I love it. You never know what stupid variants will spring from a stupid argument.



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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/28/2021 8:58:02 AM   
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CBS Sports ranks top trios(QB,RB,WR) in NFL

5. Vikings

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/28/2021 9:30:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: marty

Kirk Cousins is Jay Cutler + accurate throws

Kirk Cousins is Aaron Rodgers - pocket movement

I can't picture him being consistently clutch, but with a decent OL, all he needs is a little "You like that ?" chip on his shoulder and a SB win is a possibility.

I don't even know where to start with this.

Kirk Cousins is Aaron Rodgers, - minus pocket movement, pre-snap reads, leadership skills, moxy and football IQ. That's a little closer.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/28/2021 9:58:50 AM   
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CBS Sports ranks top trios(QB,RB,WR) in NFL

5. Vikings



Get enough butter on that popcorn?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/28/2021 10:45:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

There are plenty of reasons why Cousins isn't a good qb.

-Doesn't take care of the football
-Holds the ball too long
-Poor pocket presence
-Abysmal in the last 2min of the first half and end of games (2min drill)
-Primetime record 7-16
-A putrid 4-24 against teams with a winning record

Whenever anyone describes Cousin there is always the caveat "For Kirk to be effective everything needs to be on schedule around him"

Does a good job taking care of the football.
Has the courage to hold the ball long enough to make the play.
Good pocket presence
Just fine in 2 minute drill.
Who gives a F about Prime time. Just a game no different than any other.
Teams win or lose. Not the QB.

I swear to God ... you care less about accuracy than anyone else on this board.

My statement was fully accurate. Of course you will say that's inaccurate.

No just a bit misleading, as you meant it

Now I'm confused. My take on Kirk is that he's a very good QB and talented at about every facet of playing the position.


I actually thought I was replying to David F. It had all the earmarks. Still your post was a bit misleading, although possibly not intentionally.

I'm trying to figure out the part that could have been misleading. Just my opinion backed up with a lot of statistical facts.

Where are these statistical facts?

You say Cousins takes good care of the football when he was tied for second with the most turnovers in the league last season. Maybe check some facts before you type next time.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-turnovers-by-a-qb-in-the-2020-nfl-season

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/28/2021 10:50:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

There are plenty of reasons why Cousins isn't a good qb.

-Doesn't take care of the football
-Holds the ball too long
-Poor pocket presence
-Abysmal in the last 2min of the first half and end of games (2min drill)
-Primetime record 7-16
-A putrid 4-24 against teams with a winning record

Whenever anyone describes Cousin there is always the caveat "For Kirk to be effective everything needs to be on schedule around him"

Does a good job taking care of the football.
Has the courage to hold the ball long enough to make the play.
Good pocket presence
Just fine in 2 minute drill.
Who gives a F about Prime time. Just a game no different than any other.
Teams win or lose. Not the QB.

I swear to God ... you care less about accuracy than anyone else on this board.

My statement was fully accurate. Of course you will say that's inaccurate.

No just a bit misleading, as you meant it

Now I'm confused. My take on Kirk is that he's a very good QB and talented at about every facet of playing the position.


I actually thought I was replying to David F. It had all the earmarks. Still your post was a bit misleading, although possibly not intentionally.

I'm trying to figure out the part that could have been misleading. Just my opinion backed up with a lot of statistical facts.

Where are these statistical facts?

You say Cousins takes good care of the football when he was tied for second with the most turnovers in the league last season. Maybe check some facts before you type next time.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-turnovers-by-a-qb-in-the-2020-nfl-season

He's a turnover machine.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/28/2021 10:55:42 AM   
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5. Vikings



Consider that the Vikings finished 4th in the NFL in offense with what we all consider horrid OL play. If the OL play is better is #1 not within our reach?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/28/2021 10:57:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

There are plenty of reasons why Cousins isn't a good qb.

-Doesn't take care of the football
-Holds the ball too long
-Poor pocket presence
-Abysmal in the last 2min of the first half and end of games (2min drill)
-Primetime record 7-16
-A putrid 4-24 against teams with a winning record

Whenever anyone describes Cousin there is always the caveat "For Kirk to be effective everything needs to be on schedule around him"

Does a good job taking care of the football.
Has the courage to hold the ball long enough to make the play.
Good pocket presence
Just fine in 2 minute drill.
Who gives a F about Prime time. Just a game no different than any other.
Teams win or lose. Not the QB.

I swear to God ... you care less about accuracy than anyone else on this board.

My statement was fully accurate. Of course you will say that's inaccurate.

No just a bit misleading, as you meant it

Now I'm confused. My take on Kirk is that he's a very good QB and talented at about every facet of playing the position.


I actually thought I was replying to David F. It had all the earmarks. Still your post was a bit misleading, although possibly not intentionally.

I'm trying to figure out the part that could have been misleading. Just my opinion backed up with a lot of statistical facts.

Where are these statistical facts?

You say Cousins takes good care of the football when he was tied for second with the most turnovers in the league last season. Maybe check some facts before you type next time.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-turnovers-by-a-qb-in-the-2020-nfl-season

Cousins has had one of the better TD to INT ratings in the league throughout his career. I believe that adjusted INT rate chart shared here had him in the top 6 tied with Brady. Consider how horrible the OL play was and how much worse Cousins TOs should have been. Next question.

< Message edited by kgdabom -- 5/28/2021 11:02:19 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/28/2021 11:16:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

There are plenty of reasons why Cousins isn't a good qb.

-Doesn't take care of the football
-Holds the ball too long
-Poor pocket presence
-Abysmal in the last 2min of the first half and end of games (2min drill)
-Primetime record 7-16
-A putrid 4-24 against teams with a winning record

Whenever anyone describes Cousin there is always the caveat "For Kirk to be effective everything needs to be on schedule around him"

Does a good job taking care of the football.
Has the courage to hold the ball long enough to make the play.
Good pocket presence
Just fine in 2 minute drill.
Who gives a F about Prime time. Just a game no different than any other.
Teams win or lose. Not the QB.

I swear to God ... you care less about accuracy than anyone else on this board.

My statement was fully accurate. Of course you will say that's inaccurate.

No just a bit misleading, as you meant it

Now I'm confused. My take on Kirk is that he's a very good QB and talented at about every facet of playing the position.


I actually thought I was replying to David F. It had all the earmarks. Still your post was a bit misleading, although possibly not intentionally.

I'm trying to figure out the part that could have been misleading. Just my opinion backed up with a lot of statistical facts.

Where are these statistical facts?

You say Cousins takes good care of the football when he was tied for second with the most turnovers in the league last season. Maybe check some facts before you type next time.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-turnovers-by-a-qb-in-the-2020-nfl-season

Cousins has had one of the better TD to INT ratings in the league throughout his career. I believe that adjusted INT rate chart shared here had him in the top 6 tied with Brady. Consider how horrible the OL play was and how much worse Cousins TOs should have been. Next question.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 5/28/2021 11:21:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

There are plenty of reasons why Cousins isn't a good qb.

-Doesn't take care of the football
-Holds the ball too long
-Poor pocket presence
-Abysmal in the last 2min of the first half and end of games (2min drill)
-Primetime record 7-16
-A putrid 4-24 against teams with a winning record

Whenever anyone describes Cousin there is always the caveat "For Kirk to be effective everything needs to be on schedule around him"

Does a good job taking care of the football.
Has the courage to hold the ball long enough to make the play.
Good pocket presence
Just fine in 2 minute drill.
Who gives a F about Prime time. Just a game no different than any other.
Teams win or lose. Not the QB.

I swear to God ... you care less about accuracy than anyone else on this board.

My statement was fully accurate. Of course you will say that's inaccurate.

No just a bit misleading, as you meant it

Now I'm confused. My take on Kirk is that he's a very good QB and talented at about every facet of playing the position.


I actually thought I was replying to David F. It had all the earmarks. Still your post was a bit misleading, although possibly not intentionally.

I'm trying to figure out the part that could have been misleading. Just my opinion backed up with a lot of statistical facts.

Where are these statistical facts?

You say Cousins takes good care of the football when he was tied for second with the most turnovers in the league last season. Maybe check some facts before you type next time.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-turnovers-by-a-qb-in-the-2020-nfl-season

Cousins has had one of the better TD to INT ratings in the league throughout his career. I believe that adjusted INT rate chart shared here had him in the top 6 tied with Brady. Consider how horrible the OL play was and how much worse Cousins TOs should have been. Next question.

Were you dropped on your head as a baby?

Nice ad hominem argument there Bill. How about replacing it with a logical one. As for being dropped on my head as a baby I really doubt I would remember it. Do you remember the entirety of your baby time and know whether or not you were dropped on your head?

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