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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 10:48:14 AM

Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Blythe to the Chiefs. Probably explains the Dozier signing. Not that it makes the Dozier signing smart - I'm guessing they thought they'd better at least get SOMEBODY. As in some body.

Well then their preparation skills suck.

In no scenario should Signing Dozier be in any backup plan.

Almost this entire offseason has been about shoring up the defense. If the Draft continues that trend then Zimmer and Speilman should be out the door as soon as we lose in Week 18.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 10:50:55 AM

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Relax...they have 90 signed players by TC. Signing Dozier now doesn't mean we won't cut him later.

Based on his performance, he shouldn't even be given an opportunity to compete for a job. He was THE WORST starting offensive lineman in football last year. Allowing him to start all 16 games defied logic. Bringing him back in any capacity is just bat shit insane.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 10:54:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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Relax...they have 90 signed players by TC. Signing Dozier now doesn't mean we won't cut him later.

Based on his performance, he shouldn't even be given an opportunity to compete for a job. He was THE WORST starting offensive lineman in football last year. Allowing him to start all 16 games defied logic. Bringing him back in any capacity is just bat shit insane.

Neither Dozier nor Samia deserve to be on an NFL roster

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 11:10:37 AM

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I’m pretty sure that the DT’s and DE’s on our opposition schedule, are all laughing into their hands and checking for possible contract bonus money for sacks and pressures..

Swinging dooorzier is back in Minnesota, with a QB statue with zero peripheral vision or ability to look off his primary target, and lightning quick release, back pedals at about 2 yards per minute...

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 11:39:11 AM

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Need Wyatt Davis, Alex Leatherwood, and /or Deonte Brown for sure (two out of three)

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 11:41:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Blythe to the Chiefs. Probably explains the Dozier signing. Not that it makes the Dozier signing smart - I'm guessing they thought they'd better at least get SOMEBODY. As in some body.

Well then their preparation skills suck.

In no scenario should Signing Dozier be in any backup plan.

Almost this entire offseason has been about shoring up the defense. If the Draft continues that trend then Zimmer and Speilman should be out the door as soon as we lose in Week 18.

Amen brother... no more free passes for these two!~

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 11:42:24 AM

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Spielman is SOOOO arrogant when it comes to the OL. Sickening really...

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 11:56:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Relax...they have 90 signed players by TC. Signing Dozier now doesn't mean we won't cut him later.

Based on his performance, he shouldn't even be given an opportunity to compete for a job. He was THE WORST starting offensive lineman in football last year. Allowing him to start all 16 games defied logic. Bringing him back in any capacity is just bat shit insane.

Neither Dozier nor Samia deserve to be on an NFL roster

That means not on ANY roster out of 32 teams! Yes. They are so bad that Spielman should be fired for just allowing them to practice on the field. The NFL should fine him 25 million dollars for making such a poor decision to the detriment of the league.

< Message edited by Bruce Johnson -- 3/31/2021 11:57:53 AM >

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 12:09:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

If you are upset with the signing of Dozier, you will appreciate this. He doesn't mince words even suggesting that Spielman should be fired if this is the plan.

By the way, Rick Dennison is the worst offensive line coach in NFL history.

I'm pissed.

https://youtu.be/_Jvp4cSp3t4

Best Rant EVER!

2 steps forward 9,000 steps back is my FAVORITE LINE!

It was a pretty epic rant. But, I think he was just voicing the frustration of much of our fan base. The front office keeps stepping on rakes when it comes to building a semicompetent offensive line.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 12:12:24 PM

David F.

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

If you are upset with the signing of Dozier, you will appreciate this. He doesn't mince words even suggesting that Spielman should be fired if this is the plan.

By the way, Rick Dennison is the worst offensive line coach in NFL history.

I'm pissed.

https://youtu.be/_Jvp4cSp3t4

Best Rant EVER!

2 steps forward 9,000 steps back is my FAVORITE LINE!

It was a pretty epic rant. But, I think he was just voicing the frustration of much of our fan base. The front office keeps stepping on rakes when it comes to building a semicompetent offensive line.

Is the master plan to make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl with a whole bunch of scores like 7-3, 6-3, 10-7, 10-3, 13-10 (SHOOTOUT!), and 3-0?

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 12:15:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

If you are upset with the signing of Dozier, you will appreciate this. He doesn't mince words even suggesting that Spielman should be fired if this is the plan.

By the way, Rick Dennison is the worst offensive line coach in NFL history.

I'm pissed.

https://youtu.be/_Jvp4cSp3t4

Best Rant EVER!

2 steps forward 9,000 steps back is my FAVORITE LINE!

It was a pretty epic rant. But, I think he was just voicing the frustration of much of our fan base. The front office keeps stepping on rakes when it comes to building a semicompetent offensive line.

Is the master plan to make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl with a whole bunch of scores like 7-3, 6-3, 10-7, 10-3, 13-10 (SHOOTOUT!), and 3-0?

Vintage 70's football. Let's all hope we draft some stout inside olinemen in the first couple rounds of the draft. Cousins will have combat fatigue by week 5 if we don't.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 12:21:22 PM

David F.

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

If you are upset with the signing of Dozier, you will appreciate this. He doesn't mince words even suggesting that Spielman should be fired if this is the plan.

By the way, Rick Dennison is the worst offensive line coach in NFL history.

I'm pissed.

https://youtu.be/_Jvp4cSp3t4

Best Rant EVER!

2 steps forward 9,000 steps back is my FAVORITE LINE!

It was a pretty epic rant. But, I think he was just voicing the frustration of much of our fan base. The front office keeps stepping on rakes when it comes to building a semicompetent offensive line.

Is the master plan to make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl with a whole bunch of scores like 7-3, 6-3, 10-7, 10-3, 13-10 (SHOOTOUT!), and 3-0?

Vintage 70's football. Let's all hope we draft some stout inside olinemen in the first couple rounds of the draft. Cousins will have combat fatigue by week 5 if we don't.

I'm not even joking when I say we should draft O-line with five of our picks with three of them being 4th rounders or better.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 12:21:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Relax...they have 90 signed players by TC. Signing Dozier now doesn't mean we won't cut him later.

Based on his performance, he shouldn't even be given an opportunity to compete for a job. He was THE WORST starting offensive lineman in football last year. Allowing him to start all 16 games defied logic. Bringing him back in any capacity is just bat shit insane.

Neither Dozier nor Samia deserve to be on an NFL roster

That means not on ANY roster out of 32 teams! Yes. They are so bad that Spielman should be fired for just allowing them to practice on the field. The NFL should fine him 25 million dollars for making such a poor decision to the detriment of the league.

Sarcasm noted.

The issue is not the bad decision – it is the continuation of bad decisions in a sub-par talent approach to addressing the OL.

It is an approach that simply limits how well you can do in the playoffs no matter how well the other parts perform.

< Message edited by Tom Sykes -- 3/31/2021 12:23:19 PM >

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 12:35:29 PM

Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Blythe to the Chiefs. Probably explains the Dozier signing. Not that it makes the Dozier signing smart - I'm guessing they thought they'd better at least get SOMEBODY. As in some body.

Well then their preparation skills suck.

In no scenario should Signing Dozier be in any backup plan.

Almost this entire offseason has been about shoring up the defense. If the Draft continues that trend then Zimmer and Speilman should be out the door as soon as we lose in Week 18.

The offense is Top 10-15.

Defense was bottom 5.

Let's wait until May/June before we rip the OLine.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 12:42:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Relax...they have 90 signed players by TC. Signing Dozier now doesn't mean we won't cut him later.

Based on his performance, he shouldn't even be given an opportunity to compete for a job. He was THE WORST starting offensive lineman in football last year. Allowing him to start all 16 games defied logic. Bringing him back in any capacity is just bat shit insane.

Neither Dozier nor Samia deserve to be on an NFL roster

That means not on ANY roster out of 32 teams! Yes. They are so bad that Spielman should be fired for just allowing them to practice on the field. The NFL should fine him 25 million dollars for making such a poor decision to the detriment of the league.

The Brucer, making funnies!

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 1:06:51 PM

Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Blythe to the Chiefs. Probably explains the Dozier signing. Not that it makes the Dozier signing smart - I'm guessing they thought they'd better at least get SOMEBODY. As in some body.

Well then their preparation skills suck.

In no scenario should Signing Dozier be in any backup plan.

Almost this entire offseason has been about shoring up the defense. If the Draft continues that trend then Zimmer and Speilman should be out the door as soon as we lose in Week 18.

The offense is Top 10-15.

Defense was bottom 5.

Let's wait until May/June before we rip the OLine.

with a good Oline the offense would have been top 5. So far this offseason we resigned the single worst G in the NFL last year. traded for another team's castoff and let our best Olineman go. This unit is now worse than it was last season. They are treating it like they really don't give a shit about it.

Defense was bad largely because three of it's best players missed time. one guy we were going to count on opted out. Barr out for most of the year. Hunter out all year. Kendricks missed last few games. Plus we were forced to start rookies at CB most of the season. a lot of the problems here could be solved by the guys that didn't play playing. Not saying some attention shouldn't be given here but nearly all attention has been spent here.

and if the OLine isn't a primary focus in the draft, Zimmer and Speilman need to go.

A glaringly bad unit gets no attention?

Please.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 2:51:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Blythe to the Chiefs. Probably explains the Dozier signing. Not that it makes the Dozier signing smart - I'm guessing they thought they'd better at least get SOMEBODY. As in some body.

Well then their preparation skills suck.

In no scenario should Signing Dozier be in any backup plan.

Almost this entire offseason has been about shoring up the defense. If the Draft continues that trend then Zimmer and Speilman should be out the door as soon as we lose in Week 18.

The offense is Top 10-15.

Defense was bottom 5.

Let's wait until May/June before we rip the OLine.

with a good Oline the offense would have been top 5. So far this offseason we resigned the single worst G in the NFL last year. traded for another team's castoff and let our best Olineman go. This unit is now worse than it was last season. They are treating it like they really don't give a shit about it.

Defense was bad largely because three of it's best players missed time. one guy we were going to count on opted out. Barr out for most of the year. Hunter out all year. Kendricks missed last few games. Plus we were forced to start rookies at CB most of the season. a lot of the problems here could be solved by the guys that didn't play playing. Not saying some attention shouldn't be given here but nearly all attention has been spent here.

and if the OLine isn't a primary focus in the draft, Zimmer and Speilman need to go.

A glaringly bad unit gets no attention?

Please.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 3:02:11 PM

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Here's the bright side. I always try to look at things the more optimistic way. Well, this one burned me so much I went off, but there's this:

Dakota Dozier’s deal with the #Vikings is for the veteran minimum ($1.075 million), with no signing bonus and no guaranteed money.

Ben Goessling on Twitter

I tried to be positive. Then I see this and I'm going to get negative again.

@MatthewColler
If Dozier makes the team he’ll be making more than Blythe’s base. No Clue if Blythe’s incentives are Likely or unlikely to be earned so maybe he makes more. But still WHAT ARE YOU DOING RICK

< Message edited by Bruce Johnson -- 3/31/2021 3:04:32 PM >

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 4:50:37 PM

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Vikings coach Mike Zimmer said they still have "some holes" on offense but there's still time to get some good players. He said the defense was "barren" and that they had to initially address that. Said the signings have gotten him "rejuvenated"

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Well ... that's about as straightforward as you're going to get. Unfortunately ...

Spielman: Oh, I thought you meant a #3 WR, back-up QB and a #3 TE ... Starting Guards? Before the draft? What exactly do you mean by that?

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 3/31/2021 6:23:51 PM

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Here's the bright side. I always try to look at things the more optimistic way. Well, this one burned me so much I went off, but there's this:

Dakota Dozier’s deal with the #Vikings is for the veteran minimum ($1.075 million), with no signing bonus and no guaranteed money.

Ben Goessling on Twitter

I tried to be positive. Then I see this and I'm going to get negative again.

@MatthewColler
If Dozier makes the team he’ll be making more than Blythe’s base. No Clue if Blythe’s incentives are Likely or unlikely to be earned so maybe he makes more. But still WHAT ARE YOU DOING RICK

So the 6 year veteran Blythe's base salary is less than the vet minimum?

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 4/1/2021 9:06:01 AM

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Every podcast, video, preseason rag, and all forms of Minnesota Vikings conjecture on the upcoming 2021 season had reached a peak in the winding down of free agency after the signing of Tomlinson, Peterson, Alexander, and Woods (all defenders) after the overriding opinion was they had to improve the OLine, and improve the likes of severely substandard players like Dakota, Dru Samia, and Pat Elflein. What do the Vikings do? Sign Dakota Dozier.

Say what you want about it not mattering because they can waive him with no guarantees, nothing gained nothing lost. Right? WRONG! The optics are terrible. Miss on every possible FA upgrade out there, then sign back one of the reasons your in this very predicament.

As bad as their patching back together even an average OLine has been, there public relations coupled with the timing of this signing is really poor.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 4/1/2021 9:45:04 AM

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Every podcast, video, preseason rag, and all forms of Minnesota Vikings conjecture on the upcoming 2021 season had reached a peak in the winding down of free agency after the signing of Tomlinson, Peterson, Alexander, and Woods (all defenders) after the overriding opinion was they had to improve the OLine, and improve the likes of severely substandard players like Dakota, Dru Samia, and Pat Elflein. What do the Vikings do? Sign Dakota Dozier.

Say what you want about it not mattering because they can waive him with no guarantees, nothing gained nothing lost. Right? WRONG! The optics are terrible. Miss on every possible FA upgrade out there, then sign back one of the reasons your in this very predicament.

As bad as their patching back together even an average OLine has been, there public relations coupled with the timing of this signing is really poor.

This offseason was constructed with one thing in mind - job security.

Zimmer: Look at that top 10 defense!

Spielman: Coach wanted defenders so I got him defenders!

Both of them: Well what are you gonna do when so-and-so gets hurt? (when inevitably a starter or two gets hurt like EVERY team EVERY year.)

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 4/1/2021 10:03:20 AM

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We'll be in a lot better shape after the draft. Possibly
grab a released vet FA later as well.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 4/1/2021 10:06:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

Every podcast, video, preseason rag, and all forms of Minnesota Vikings conjecture on the upcoming 2021 season had reached a peak in the winding down of free agency after the signing of Tomlinson, Peterson, Alexander, and Woods (all defenders) after the overriding opinion was they had to improve the OLine, and improve the likes of severely substandard players like Dakota, Dru Samia, and Pat Elflein. What do the Vikings do? Sign Dakota Dozier.

Say what you want about it not mattering because they can waive him with no guarantees, nothing gained nothing lost. Right? WRONG! The optics are terrible. Miss on every possible FA upgrade out there, then sign back one of the reasons your in this very predicament.

As bad as their patching back together even an average OLine has been, there public relations coupled with the timing of this signing is really poor.

This offseason was constructed with one thing in mind - job security.

Zimmer: Look at that top 10 defense!

Spielman: Coach wanted defenders so I got him defenders!

Both of them: Well what are you gonna do when so-and-so gets hurt? (when inevitably a starter or two gets hurt like EVERY team EVERY year.)

Yep. That pair has the excuses down to a T. After five years, savvy owners would say we've heard enough of your BS and fire them. Instead, the Wilfs gauge success on getting a new stadium built.

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RE: Free Agency 2021 - 4/1/2021 10:26:22 AM

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He said the defense was "barren" and that they had to initially address that.

Seriously?

Getting Hunter, Pierce and Barr back was "barren"?

Does he have so little faith in his two 2nd year CBs that our "defense was "barren"'?

I swear if the guy needs 11 All-Pros and/or 1st round picks to maintain his "defensive guru" status, then the Emperor truly has no clothes.

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