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brandon scherff:

scherff has told people close to him that the minnesota vikings are his preferred free agent team this offseason...grew up a vikings fan, he lives in Iowa, likes our facilities, and wants to work close to home....

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brandon scherff:

scherff has told people close to him that the minnesota vikings are his preferred free agent team this offseason...grew up a vikings fan, he lives in Iowa, likes our facilities, and wants to work close to home....

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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brandon scherff:

scherff has told people close to him that the minnesota vikings are his preferred free agent team this offseason...grew up a vikings fan, he lives in Iowa, likes our facilities, and wants to work close to home....

Yes please!

That would set 4/5ths of the line before we got to the draft.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

1:23 clip (on Twitter) of Dan Barrio interviewing our coach I assume yesterday - posted 9 hrs ago.

Yes, coach is getting giving himself room to wiggle but seems sincere in wanting to go with him next year, to me.

Good stuff.

https://twitter.com/Str8_Cash_Homey/status/1494914427765747713?s=20&t=VUt_GRNVukS920ZS7QBr7g

We could go the route of extend him with voidable years, still draft a QB in Round 1. If he flourishes and we make a run, unvoid the years. If same old Kirk, void him and move on to young guys. Some dead cap involved then but Cap should be rising in coming years.

I'm starting to think pass on QB in Round 1. Get Stingley, Gardner or McDuffie and try to shore up Secondary.

Good stuff. I agree. I just think, despite the negative bias he creates, there's a lot of talent there. We're going to give Zimmer a shot but not this exQB a shot? - but he's probably made up his mind too on whether or not he can pull this off ... and ultimately I strongly believe this is O'Connell's choice on whether he stays or not, with Kwesi's blessing, of course

- I also believe, as pointed out previously, they knew what he wanted to do during the interview process and they were all on board

There is absolutely no reason for Cousins to renegotiate or extend unless its to his benefit, i.e., spreading out the 45M over another year or two into voidable years isn’t going to happen unless we throw a lot more guaranteed money at him. We are going to pay him 45M this year one way or another … if he stays. And then how much more to extend him into 2023 either as a resigning at market value or above or as a free agent at way above market value.

Where does it end?

I really don’t blame him … I can’t remember who but someone called him the GOAT of pro athlete contracts. All players and agents should try and emulate his situation. There’s a reason they are unable to … its uncomprimising to the health of the teams and the league.

Whether you are biased for him or against him … as a player … the current money due is an extreme. He has more power over his situation than the team, he is going to decide what happens next contractually … and that contract situation is going to be a crippling drag on the overall cap situation to improve the team.

If nothing else, 2022 has to be the low point of that leverage over the franchise. Irregardless of you wanting to blame Zimmer’s aura or every other circumstance for Cousins won loss record … we can no longer be at his mercy after 2022. We are not the Minnesota Cousins.

KC the contract GOAT? Sure his resume has fancy hoopla like 1st time 100% guaranteed. But for sheer, sustained contract success over a career - factoring in value in today's dollars - look no further than Sam Bradford.

Over-priced ... you are right, its hard to argue with Bradford.

That's what arm talent at the position does ... keeps every team, coaching staff and fan base mesmerized, believing that we can convert that arm talent into wins.

Bradford was a poor decision in retrospect. No one can know how that would of turned out if it was allowed to play out.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

1:23 clip (on Twitter) of Dan Barrio interviewing our coach I assume yesterday - posted 9 hrs ago.

Yes, coach is getting giving himself room to wiggle but seems sincere in wanting to go with him next year, to me.

Good stuff.

https://twitter.com/Str8_Cash_Homey/status/1494914427765747713?s=20&t=VUt_GRNVukS920ZS7QBr7g

We could go the route of extend him with voidable years, still draft a QB in Round 1. If he flourishes and we make a run, unvoid the years. If same old Kirk, void him and move on to young guys. Some dead cap involved then but Cap should be rising in coming years.

I'm starting to think pass on QB in Round 1. Get Stingley, Gardner or McDuffie and try to shore up Secondary.

Good stuff. I agree. I just think, despite the negative bias he creates, there's a lot of talent there. We're going to give Zimmer a shot but not this exQB a shot? - but he's probably made up his mind too on whether or not he can pull this off ... and ultimately I strongly believe this is O'Connell's choice on whether he stays or not, with Kwesi's blessing, of course

- I also believe, as pointed out previously, they knew what he wanted to do during the interview process and they were all on board

There is absolutely no reason for Cousins to renegotiate or extend unless its to his benefit, i.e., spreading out the 45M over another year or two into voidable years isn’t going to happen unless we throw a lot more guaranteed money at him. We are going to pay him 45M this year one way or another … if he stays. And then how much more to extend him into 2023 either as a resigning at market value or above or as a free agent at way above market value.

Where does it end?

I really don’t blame him … I can’t remember who but someone called him the GOAT of pro athlete contracts. All players and agents should try and emulate his situation. There’s a reason they are unable to … its uncomprimising to the health of the teams and the league.

Whether you are biased for him or against him … as a player … the current money due is an extreme. He has more power over his situation than the team, he is going to decide what happens next contractually … and that contract situation is going to be a crippling drag on the overall cap situation to improve the team.

If nothing else, 2022 has to be the low point of that leverage over the franchise. Irregardless of you wanting to blame Zimmer’s aura or every other circumstance for Cousins won loss record … we can no longer be at his mercy after 2022. We are not the Minnesota Cousins.

KC the contract GOAT? Sure his resume has fancy hoopla like 1st time 100% guaranteed. But for sheer, sustained contract success over a career - factoring in value in today's dollars - look no further than Sam Bradford.

Over-priced ... you are right, its hard to argue with Bradford.

That's what arm talent at the position does ... keeps every team, coaching staff and fan base mesmerized, believing that we can convert that arm talent into wins.

Bradford was a poor decision in retrospect. No one can know how that would of turned out if it was allowed to play out.

I don't think Bradford was a poor decision in retrospect. I don't think signing Cousins was a poor decision in retrospect. I didn't think drafting Kalil was a poor decision in retrospect. I thought Ponder was a reach but I understood the reasoning/desperation ... and I was willing to see if they pulled one out of the hat.

The problem has always been and ever will be realizing when to recognize your mistakes and cut your losses.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. Right out of the gate KAM was reading each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really? He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make?

He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read.

So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner.

Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. Right out of the gate KAM was reading each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really? He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make?

He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read.

So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner.

Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position.

I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC.

Pure genius.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. Right out of the gate KAM was reading each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really? He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make?

He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read.

So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner.

Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position.

I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC.

Pure genius.

Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;)

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. Right out of the gate KAM was reading each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really? He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make?

He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read.

So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner.

Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position.

I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC.

Pure genius.

Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;)

What I saw from KA-M was, he said what he needed to but there was an intention to not upstage KO’C … you know what I mean? I did not see an ego-driven ‘look at my tall intellect’ narcissism. It might be there but I didn’t see it. I didn’t see anything … yes, I thought reading bullet points was less polished than I expected - I get Bill’s point. But with Bill, if the nail sticks out just a fraction sideways, its getting hammered down.

Maybe KA-M has a runaway mouth like I do and he was curbing his innate desire to ramble. Who knows.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. Right out of the gate KAM was reading each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really? He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make?

He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read.

So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner.

Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position.

I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC.

Pure genius.

Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;)

What I saw from KA-M was, he said what he needed to but there was an intention to not upstage KO’C … you know what I mean? I did not see an ego-driven ‘look at my tall intellect’ narcissism. It might be there but I didn’t see it. I didn’t see anything … yes, I thought reading bullet points was less polished than I expected - I get Bill’s point. But with Bill, if the nail sticks out just a fraction sideways, its getting hammered down.

Maybe KA-M has a runaway mouth like I do and he was curbing his innate desire to ramble. Who knows.

Take away what you will, but I sprinkled in two good things about him Overall I am happy with the selection, it's just that yeah I thought he'd be more in command of the moment rather than sounding like a guy at the local high school gym.

And who cares about Poles, especially with no link.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. Right out of the gate KAM was reading each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really? He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make?

He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read.

So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner.

Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position.

I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC.

Pure genius.

Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;)

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. Right out of the gate KAM was reading each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really? He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make?

He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read.

So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner.

Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position.

I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC.

Pure genius.

Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;)

I figured I could stomach a minute 28 seconds...

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We are so fu*k*d

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ORIGINAL: Zoilo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

We are so fu*k*d

Relax

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

We're SO in a SB window it's not funny.

The defense is awful. Can they improve it to middle of the pack in short order?

A team with the right chemistry can overcome some of that. We have an anchor at every level (potentially) some young guys and done new blood to draw off of coming.

I think our culture we're about to build is exactly what we've been missing.

The potential seems so limited. As an example, in 2015 we had the following:

Everson Griffen, 27
Linval Joseph, 27
Sharrif Floyd, 24
Danielle Hunter, 21
Anthony Barr, 23
Eric Kendricks, 23
Anthony Harris, 24
Xavier Rhodes, 25
Trae Waynes, 23
Harrison Smith, 26

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. Right out of the gate KAM was reading each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really? He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make?

He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read.

So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner.

Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position.

I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC.

Pure genius.

Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;)

I figured I could stomach a minute 28 seconds...

Oh my F buddha!

1h 28 min 07 seconds

;)

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Another thing from the presser introducing KOC. Right out of the gate KAM was reading each of just around a half dozen bullet points about how great KOC was. Really? He couldn't internalize those few items about the most important hire he could or will make?

He did conclude the intro with some flowery comments that were not read.

So far I haven't seen a thing that suggests he is brilliant. His forte is ultimately collaboration (with analytics just another input), but what else? I once heard an exec say the world is full of "wedding planners" and what industry lacks is brilliant people tailor made for specific positions. Right now, I see KAM being a wedding planner.

Now if KOC wasn't a slam dunk among all the decision makers, but KAM pushed for him then props go out. That's based on (IMO) a very good KOC presser, success of McVay's coaches, and the Rams offense, but of course not yet results in a new position.

I watched it and I thought he was running personnel analytics and cap projections at the same time as introducing the HC.

Pure genius.

Here's Ryan Poles' intro pc - see how much of the 1:28 you can watch of it ;)

I figured I could stomach a minute 28 seconds...

Oh my F buddha!

1h 28 min 07 seconds

;)

You must have ate your Wheaties today, you're full of F-bombs!

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Richardson
Conklin
Peterson

Are the only 3 I'd care to see back.

Along with whatever we add on tier 2 FA and through the draft you're just gonna have to have something out of

Willekies
Hand
Suratt
Lynch
Robinson
Watts
Bynum
Dye
Wonnum
Jones II

Might not be this year but we'll be in one of the next 3.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Richardson
Conklin
Peterson

Are the only 3 I'd care to see back.

Along with whatever we add on tier 2 FA and through the draft you're just gonna have to have something out of

Willekies
Hand
Suratt
Lynch
Robinson
Watts
Bynum
Dye
Wonnum
Jones II

Might not be this year but we'll be in one of the next 3.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Richardson
Conklin
Peterson

Are the only 3 I'd care to see back.

Along with whatever we add on tier 2 FA and through the draft you're just gonna have to have something out of

Willekies
Hand
Suratt
Lynch
Robinson
Watts
Bynum
Dye
Wonnum
Jones II

Might not be this year but we'll be in one of the next 3.