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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 2:22:26 PM

TJSweens

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Chris Tomasson@christomasson
#Vikings Bashaud Breeland has moved up in the Pro Football Focus rankings of NFL cornerbacks. After being No. 103 of 103 last week, he is now No. 109 out of 112.

So nine more corners qualified and Breeland was better than 3 of them. He dropped 6 spots, but moved out of last.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 2:23:57 PM

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Chris Tomasson@christomasson
#Vikings Bashaud Breeland has moved up in the Pro Football Focus rankings of NFL cornerbacks. After being No. 103 of 103 last week, he is now No. 109 out of 112.

How he's not cut yet is beyond me.

That would involve Zim admitting he was wrong.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 3:01:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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look at this, and scroll down, there are a few angles....

https://twitter.com/CasperSyd/status/1447296561352826880

I see an act. Each playing their part. First Kirk then Zimmer. All in fun.

Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
Zimmer addresses the sideline interaction postgame w/him and Cousins: "He’s doing exactly what I want him to do. He’s being a leader, he’s being vocal, he’s showing emotion. I’ve been talking to him about it all year. It’s no different than when Bradford tackled me in practice, because I was trying to get him to be the same thing. So you know, he came over and said, ‘You like that?’ And kind of gave me a shove, and I shoved him back, and it was all good."

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 3:04:37 PM

ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Since once something is on the internet, its there forever, here is the tweet:

Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
Mike Zimmer addresses Bashaud Breeland's disparaging tweet: "We’ll handle it. Actually think he played pretty well. I think if I was asked the question by that reporter that he was asked the other day being embarrassed and 103rd of PFF, I might go off on him too."

Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
A follow up question to Zimmer asked whether the coach thought the tweet was directed at the fans, not the reporter Zimmer brought up (think the 'yal' in Breeland's tweet gave that away but what do I know)

"I don’t think it was."

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 3:20:43 PM

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So Breeland's disgusting conduct is excusable because PFF gave him a bad score??? Then tell the asshole to play better.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 3:21:15 PM

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That's Zimmer in a nutshell.

If he's one of his guys, he'll offer every excuse in the book and eventually snap at anyone that questions him.

If its not one of his guys, he'll run him over with the bus, back up and run over him again.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 3:25:48 PM

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Why would Breeland tell reporters to enjoy the win? Telling the fans to enjoy would make sense. Not reporters. They just report on the team and the game.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 3:35:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Since once something is on the internet, its there forever, here is the tweet:

Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
Mike Zimmer addresses Bashaud Breeland's disparaging tweet: "We’ll handle it. Actually think he played pretty well. I think if I was asked the question by that reporter that he was asked the other day being embarrassed and 103rd of PFF, I might go off on him too."

Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
A follow up question to Zimmer asked whether the coach thought the tweet was directed at the fans, not the reporter Zimmer brought up (think the 'yal' in Breeland's tweet gave that away but what do I know)

"I don’t think it was."

Does it really matter?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 3:39:16 PM

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Breeland doesn't seem like the sharpest marble in the drawer, but even he probably understands that Chris Tomasson is one person...

It was clearly aimed at the fans.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 3:42:01 PM

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Dalvin Tomlinson played yesterday? Did he get dinged up early? All I saw out there was Lynch, Watts, and Richardson.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 3:54:06 PM

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Dalvin Tomlinson played yesterday? Did he get dinged up early? All I saw out there was Lynch, Watts, and Richardson.

He played half the game. We had 68 defensive snaps.

Watts: 36
Tomlinson: 34
Richardson: 34
Lynch: 11

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 4:12:25 PM

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Eric Eager@PFF_Eric
Even with a turbulent week 1, Klint Kubiak is currently the highest-rated offensive play caller using our @PFF offensive play caller rating system through week 3 #Vikings

So far he's answered the call better than anyone expected

8:25 AM · Sep 29, 2021

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Eric Eager@PFF_Eric
after a good first three weeks, Klint Kubiak has learned exactly what it means to be a Viking, as his rating has fallen to 16th/32

1:59 PM · Oct 11, 2021

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 4:27:25 PM

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#Vikings top-5 grades on offense (min. 15 snaps) per PFF:

1. Kirk Cousins 88.4
2. Justin Jefferson 80.7
3. CJ Ham 69.7
4. Alexander Mattison 68.8
5. Ezra Cleveland 66.7

Bottom 5:

Oli Udoh 41.1
Rashod Hill 54.2
Christian Darrisaw 55.5
KJ Osborn 60.6
Brian O’Neill 63.0

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 4:28:23 PM

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Vikings top-5 grades on defense (min. 15 snaps):

1. Eric Kendricks 91.4
2. Danielle Hunter 84.0
3. Patrick Peterson 79.9
4. DJ Wonnum 78.2
5. Armon Watts 77.1

Bottom 5:

Anthony Barr 50.8
Sheldon Richardson 53.4
Nick Vigil 54.5
Dalvin Tomlinson 60.7
Xavier Woods 62.3

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 4:34:16 PM

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Everson Griffin played well: Had a very good 75.9 overall grade including a team-high 90.7 pass rush mark (6 total pressures)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 4:34:57 PM

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#Vikings top-5 grades on offense (min. 15 snaps) per PFF:

1. Kirk Cousins 88.4
2. Justin Jefferson 80.7
3. CJ Ham 69.7
4. Alexander Mattison 68.8
5. Ezra Cleveland 66.7

Bottom 5:

Oli Udoh 41.1
Rashod Hill 54.2
Christian Darrisaw 55.5
KJ Osborn 60.6
Brian O’Neill 63.0

I guess Garrett Bradbury must have had a relatively good day.

Just watching the game the OL sure seemed to stink it up.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 4:36:47 PM

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Dalvin Tomlinson played yesterday? Did he get dinged up early? All I saw out there was Lynch, Watts, and Richardson.

He played half the game. We had 68 defensive snaps.

Watts: 36
Tomlinson: 34
Richardson: 34
Lynch: 11

Hmm. Thanks!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 4:39:04 PM

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Eric Eager@PFF_Eric
Even with a turbulent week 1, Klint Kubiak is currently the highest-rated offensive play caller using our @PFF offensive play caller rating system through week 3 #Vikings

So far he's answered the call better than anyone expected

8:25 AM · Sep 29, 2021

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Eric Eager@PFF_Eric
after a good first three weeks, Klint Kubiak has learned exactly what it means to be a Viking, as his rating has fallen to 16th/32

1:59 PM · Oct 11, 2021

PFF must value predictability in a play caller.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 4:43:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Eric Eager@PFF_Eric
Even with a turbulent week 1, Klint Kubiak is currently the highest-rated offensive play caller using our @PFF offensive play caller rating system through week 3 #Vikings

So far he's answered the call better than anyone expected

8:25 AM · Sep 29, 2021

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Eric Eager@PFF_Eric
after a good first three weeks, Klint Kubiak has learned exactly what it means to be a Viking, as his rating has fallen to 16th/32

1:59 PM · Oct 11, 2021

PFF must value predictability in a play caller.

We did score 24, 33 and 30 points those games.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 4:44:30 PM

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I would like to say that although we won. This was a pathetic display of football.

We damn near lost.

Joseph is the hero....but if he had just made that FG a few minutes before that he wouldn't have had to be the last second hero.

Can Cousins learn how to run a two minute dr......wait.

3rd and 16 throw an 8 yard dump pass to a receiver with a DB waiting to tackle him...Yeah that'll work.

Lions coach has some guts. some balls, Score a TD. **** hitting the extra point for a tie. Go for the two point conversion for the win.... I wish our coaches weren't so risk averse. I seriously think they play scared.

The most predicable drive of the afternoon. Vikings up by 7, time getting short. Ineffective run. followed by ineffective run. followed by ineffetive run with a fumble putting the other team in position to tie, or in this case take a lead late. IF SOME NOVICE LIKE ME CAN SEE THIS SERIES OF PLAYS COMING A MILE AWAY SO CAN A PROFESSIONAL DC.

It's amazing when Rodgers has 37 seconds left and drives his team into FG range for the game winning FG. Cousins does it with 33 seconds....crickets.

Someone else pointed out Kubiak isn't adjusting to adjustments being made. Our offense goes into a cocoon in the second half of games.

We barely beat a bad team.

This victory seems exceedingly Pyrrhic .

I've been saying for a while that I'm not ready to judge players on this team fully until we get rid of the dinosaur. Kirk has been pretty good imo when he has to take risks for sure!

Spielman survives another year!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 4:46:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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look at this, and scroll down, there are a few angles....

https://twitter.com/CasperSyd/status/1447296561352826880

I see an act. Each playing their part. First Kirk then Zimmer. All in fun.

Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
Zimmer addresses the sideline interaction postgame w/him and Cousins: "He’s doing exactly what I want him to do. He’s being a leader, he’s being vocal, he’s showing emotion. I’ve been talking to him about it all year. It’s no different than when Bradford tackled me in practice, because I was trying to get him to be the same thing. So you know, he came over and said, ‘You like that?’ And kind of gave me a shove, and I shoved him back, and it was all good."

It looked really f-en weird.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 4:53:53 PM

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Zygi should step in and fire Breeland.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 4:53:56 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

I would like to say that although we won. This was a pathetic display of football.

We damn near lost.

Joseph is the hero....but if he had just made that FG a few minutes before that he wouldn't have had to be the last second hero.

Can Cousins learn how to run a two minute dr......wait.

3rd and 16 throw an 8 yard dump pass to a receiver with a DB waiting to tackle him...Yeah that'll work.

Lions coach has some guts. some balls, Score a TD. **** hitting the extra point for a tie. Go for the two point conversion for the win.... I wish our coaches weren't so risk averse. I seriously think they play scared.

The most predicable drive of the afternoon. Vikings up by 7, time getting short. Ineffective run. followed by ineffective run. followed by ineffetive run with a fumble putting the other team in position to tie, or in this case take a lead late. IF SOME NOVICE LIKE ME CAN SEE THIS SERIES OF PLAYS COMING A MILE AWAY SO CAN A PROFESSIONAL DC.

It's amazing when Rodgers has 37 seconds left and drives his team into FG range for the game winning FG. Cousins does it with 33 seconds....crickets.

Someone else pointed out Kubiak isn't adjusting to adjustments being made. Our offense goes into a cocoon in the second half of games.

We barely beat a bad team.

This victory seems exceedingly Pyrrhic .

I've been saying for a while that I'm not ready to judge players on this team fully until we get rid of the dinosaur. Kirk has been pretty good imo when he has to take risks for sure!

Spielman survives another year!

Oh no. They're a package. Both must go!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 4:55:35 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

.
.
look at this, and scroll down, there are a few angles....

https://twitter.com/CasperSyd/status/1447296561352826880

I see an act. Each playing their part. First Kirk then Zimmer. All in fun.

Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin
Zimmer addresses the sideline interaction postgame w/him and Cousins: "He’s doing exactly what I want him to do. He’s being a leader, he’s being vocal, he’s showing emotion. I’ve been talking to him about it all year. It’s no different than when Bradford tackled me in practice, because I was trying to get him to be the same thing. So you know, he came over and said, ‘You like that?’ And kind of gave me a shove, and I shoved him back, and it was all good."

It looked really f-en weird.

I just watched it. Definitely something very bizarre about that whole exchange. Then the way he was looking at Peterson. Very strange.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/11/2021 5:05:28 PM

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That's Zimmer in a nutshell.

If he's one of his guys, he'll offer every excuse in the book and eventually snap at anyone that questions him.

If its not one of his guys, he'll run him over with the bus, back up and run over him again.

Zimmer the enabler, his favorites can do no wrong.

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