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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/2/2022 1:53:51 PM

David F.

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https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/former-vikings-coordinator-allegedly-referred-to-mike-zimmer-as-satan

My money is on Norv Turner.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/2/2022 2:02:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/former-vikings-coordinator-allegedly-referred-to-mike-zimmer-as-satan

My money is on Norv Turner.

Zim even kind of looks like Satan in that pic

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/2/2022 2:05:37 PM

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Referencing the cap, Kwesi says "I'll continue to say that every NFL team has challenges."

OK, technically that's accurate depending on how "challenges" is defined. But really, that's a BS statement.

M first thought is, "Of course, you have to pay for a QB."
And you always have to pay the big bucks to some others as well ... but Kirk isnt even in the top 10 anymore according to a tweet from Spotrac i saw this morning. But of course it's challenging, thats why we hired you

He has a lot of dead cap where he will be paid but not on the roster.

Try adding all the money he will be paid and divide it by the number of years remaining on the contract.

Edit: $80 million, which includes $12.5 million he'll get for not being a Viking, over two years.

Ah man ...

Ok, I did a first, I looked up a contract.

Dead cap for the following seasons:
2023 - $48,750
2024 - $12,500
2025 - $0

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/2/2022 2:39:33 PM

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Kinda hitting too close to the season. It's time to move forward...it's just kind of eye opening.

It truly is time to put all that bullshit behind us.

Zimmer is gone.

the era is over.

He's never coming back.

SKOL Vikings!!!!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/2/2022 4:09:47 PM

Ricky J

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Yeah but ... there are those who still want to hear Norv's story. Other than that nothing a player can say anymore will surprise us

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/2/2022 4:11:44 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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The guy was a terrible coach in this Era. Time to move on. Hopefully we got a good one now.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/2/2022 4:15:03 PM

Todd M

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Closure would be nice though.

Diving into this from March to June would've been alright. And we did.

A think a much nicer story is about to unfold.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/2/2022 4:43:15 PM

Ricky J

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I agree
Or am hopeful anyway

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/2/2022 5:11:50 PM

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Kinda hitting too close to the season. It's time to move forward...it's just kind of eye opening.

i honestly feel that just the changing of in-game manager, Zimmer to o'connell, is worth 3+ wins....

zimmer crumbled last season....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/2/2022 7:55:05 PM

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I expect an 0-2 start, but still an 11-6 record.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/2/2022 8:04:38 PM

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Am I remembering correctly and 0-2 start years ago and making it to the SB or at least winning the div (and of course beating the Rams in the playoffs)?

< Message edited by Ricky J -- 9/2/2022 11:27:41 PM >

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/2/2022 8:07:07 PM

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I can’t stand anonymous sources. Zim was a bully and everyone knows that now. If you have something to say, be a man and put your name on it.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/2/2022 8:16:54 PM

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I expect an 0-2 start, but still an 11-6 record.

You expect us to lose to the Pukers every time we play them. It gets real old.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/2/2022 9:31:29 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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I can’t stand anonymous sources. Zim was a bully and everyone knows that now. If you have something to say, be a man and put your name on it.

Agreed!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/3/2022 6:23:02 AM

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I usually expect the Vikings to lose to the Packers, not every time. In '98 I expected to sweep them, and the Favre year I sorta expected to sweep them.

This year I am thinking a split, but am not sure which game the Vikings will win. The first game makes me nervous as many are expecting a Vikings win because of Zed and some other factors. I choose the Packers to win that one, as they get the perceived underdog role, and they have more continuity on the defensive side.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/3/2022 6:23:47 AM

marty

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Here's a funny clip about Kirk and Reagor's first practice:

https://youtu.be/sXUnFcAckJs

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/3/2022 6:25:49 AM

marty

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I remember the 80s when I expected the Vikes to sweep the Packers every year, and was usually disappointed when those chumps would sneak a victory.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/3/2022 8:23:22 AM

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I'd like to dream that ZED gets a crucial sack in a victory week 1, and Reagor catches a game winning TD in week 2.

But those sorts of dreams don't usually come true. Only in 1998 did it seem like just about every victory imagined came through.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/3/2022 9:52:46 AM

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https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/former-vikings-coordinator-allegedly-referred-to-mike-zimmer-as-satan

At the risk of interrupting Marty's incessant packer drivel, Zimmer's intenseness was welcomed after the perceptions of Leslie Frazier.

There are countless examples of coaches getting the maximum from players by tailoring their input... praise, cussing, etc, etc. KOC seems more even keeled but it's too early to know as we haven't played a single game yet (and especially we won't know what goes on internally).

Let's hope KOC can strike the right balance. He seems kinda similar to McVay and the latter has done quite well.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/3/2022 10:12:32 AM

marty

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At the risk of interrupting Bill's incessant rudeness, here's a positive article on what Reagor could bring to Minnesota, including some clips of some unspectacular QBing at TCU:

https://youtu.be/sXUnFcAckJs

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/3/2022 10:16:34 AM

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I usually expect the Vikings to lose to the Packers, not every time. In '98 I expected to sweep them, and the Favre year I sorta expected to sweep them.

This year I am thinking a split, but am not sure which game the Vikings will win. The first game makes me nervous as many are expecting a Vikings win because of Zed and some other factors. I choose the Packers to win that one, as they get the perceived underdog role, and they have more continuity on the defensive side.

I expect us to win the first game because of the factors that we're the better team and it's at home.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/3/2022 10:51:09 AM

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Truth is no one has a clue how that game is going to turn out. Are we all excited and see the possible potential for this team to be real good, yes. And ain't we all a little worried the yearly hype over the Packers may be true but we're hoping it's bs, like we always do?

This first game seems more like, I don't have a clue than most first games with GB to me

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/3/2022 11:24:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/former-vikings-coordinator-allegedly-referred-to-mike-zimmer-as-satan

At the risk of interrupting Marty's incessant packer drivel, Zimmer's intenseness was welcomed after the perceptions of Leslie Frazier.

There are countless examples of coaches getting the maximum from players by tailoring their input... praise, cussing, etc, etc. KOC seems more even keeled but it's too early to know as we haven't played a single game yet (and especially we won't know what goes on internally).

Let's hope KOC can strike the right balance. He seems kinda similar to McVay and the latter has done quite well.

The arc of the team was very good until Teddy's injury. Then the roller coaster. Not that it was the only variable ... but Zimmer did inject some much needed, hard-nosed curmudgeonry after Frazier's frozen lake approach. (It consumed him in the end, of course).

I think you give a fair assessment of KOC without too much hyperbole. My worry is that he spins his wheels too much trying to empower, collaborate, and team-build. KOC needs to prove that he's smart and decisive ... in big moments. And he's willing to be a jerk to the competition.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/3/2022 11:40:31 AM

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Truth is no one has a clue how that game is going to turn out. Are we all excited and see the possible potential for this team to be real good, yes. And ain't we all a little worried the yearly hype over the Packers may be true but we're hoping it's bs, like we always do?

This first game seems more like, I don't have a clue than most first games with GB to me

It really is up in the air.

I don't think anybody in their right mind that isn't a vikes fan expects this team to beat the packers. They have a track record, we don't.

Even so, its at home, rival games are hard to predict, and just the adrenaline of players finding themselves in a new upbeat environment could spring us over the top.

I believe we'll be up down the first half of the season trying to find our track but I'm hopeful we shoot out of the gate with a nosebleed.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 9/3/2022 11:42:49 AM

David F.

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I can’t stand anonymous sources. Zim was a bully and everyone knows that now. If you have something to say, be a man and put your name on it.

Agreed!

If it’s Norv he probably can’t say anything if there’s any truth to the story that he punched zim in the face prior to “quitting”.

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