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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 1:44:20 PM   
David Levine


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Zim is in his 8th year as a HC. Cousins is in his 10th.

They are who they are.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 1:44:28 PM   
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Oh boy...

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Thielen: "If you're not frustrated, there's something wrong with you, and you shouldn't be on this team, you shouldn't be a coach."


Thielen is saying all the thing publicly that Diggs was accused of saying behind the scenes...


"... and you shouldn't be a coach."

I don't think that's an accurate quote - maybe I'm wrong
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 1:49:58 PM   
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Oh boy...

Will Ragatz
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Thielen: "If you're not frustrated, there's something wrong with you, and you shouldn't be on this team, you shouldn't be a coach."


Thielen is saying all the thing publicly that Diggs was accused of saying behind the scenes...


"... and you shouldn't be a coach."

I don't think that's an accurate quote - maybe I'm wrong


"If you’re not frustrated, there’s something wrong with you and you shouldn’t be on this team. You shouldn’t be a coach if you’re not frustrated," said Thielen, who led the Vikings with six catches for 78 yards. "We’ve got quality guys, good football players on this team. So if you’re not frustrated, there’s something wrong with you."

https://www.fox9.com/sports/minnesota-vikings-vs-dallas-cowboys-week-8-game-post
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 1:53:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Oh boy...

Will Ragatz
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Thielen: "If you're not frustrated, there's something wrong with you, and you shouldn't be on this team, you shouldn't be a coach."


Thielen is saying all the thing publicly that Diggs was accused of saying behind the scenes...


"... and you shouldn't be a coach."

I don't think that's an accurate quote - maybe I'm wrong


"If you’re not frustrated, there’s something wrong with you and you shouldn’t be on this team. You shouldn’t be a coach if you’re not frustrated," said Thielen, who led the Vikings with six catches for 78 yards. "We’ve got quality guys, good football players on this team. So if you’re not frustrated, there’s something wrong with you."

https://www.fox9.com/sports/minnesota-vikings-vs-dallas-cowboys-week-8-game-post

Good for Theilen!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 1:55:17 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 1:55:49 PM   
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Is there someone not frustrated that Theilen alluding to?

Sounds like it. Probably Zimmer.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 1:57:06 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 1:57:29 PM   
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Is there someone not frustrated that Theilen alluding to?

Sounds like it. Probably Zimmer.


Held 'em to 20. Mission accomplished!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 1:57:45 PM  1 votes
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Danielle Hunter is having an MRI on his injured shoulder this morning, but the initial concern was the defensive end tore his pectoral muscle, according to a league source. If that turns out to be the case, it’d be a massive blow for the #Vikings defense.


I hope he's fine and plays for the rest of the year. I don't want to give Zim any reason to point to why he was not successful this year. The only way things are going to change is from the top down. I like the guy, but I think he has to go, sooner rather than later.


I'm not even sure what is likable about him anymore.

Dude thinks he's Bill Parcells and he carries himself like he's won a few SBs.

He's arrogant, impossibly stubborn, defensive and belittling. He's quick to throw players under the bus, refuses to accept blame or make any efforts to improve.

Oh, and he can't beat good teams to save his life.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 1:58:19 PM   
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- but sometimes you have to really F up to learn something


Zim is in his 8th year as a HC. Cousins is in his 10th.

They are who they are.


It is.

We'd play down like that with whoever our QB was and Kirk makes that checkdown playing elsewhere.

< Message edited by Todd M -- 11/1/2021 2:02:17 PM >
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 1:59:27 PM   
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Ben Goessling@GoesslingStrib
Danielle Hunter is having an MRI on his injured shoulder this morning, but the initial concern was the defensive end tore his pectoral muscle, according to a league source. If that turns out to be the case, it’d be a massive blow for the #Vikings defense.


I hope he's fine and plays for the rest of the year. I don't want to give Zim any reason to point to why he was not successful this year. The only way things are going to change is from the top down. I like the guy, but I think he has to go, sooner rather than later.


I'm not even sure what is likable about him anymore.

Dude thinks he's Bill Parcells and he carries himself like he's won a few SBs.

He's arrogant, impossibly stubborn, defensive and belittling. He's quick to throw players under the bus, refuses to accept blame or make any efforts to improve.

Oh, and he can't beat good teams to save his life.

I thought this was his chance to beat a quality team
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 2:03:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Ben Goessling@GoesslingStrib
Danielle Hunter is having an MRI on his injured shoulder this morning, but the initial concern was the defensive end tore his pectoral muscle, according to a league source. If that turns out to be the case, it’d be a massive blow for the #Vikings defense.


I hope he's fine and plays for the rest of the year. I don't want to give Zim any reason to point to why he was not successful this year. The only way things are going to change is from the top down. I like the guy, but I think he has to go, sooner rather than later.


I'm not even sure what is likable about him anymore.

Dude thinks he's Bill Parcells and he carries himself like he's won a few SBs.

He's arrogant, impossibly stubborn, defensive and belittling. He's quick to throw players under the bus, refuses to accept blame or make any efforts to improve.

Oh, and he can't beat good teams to save his life.

I thought this was his chance to beat a quality team


He was never going to get a better one.

• He was facing a QB that had thrown 3 more NFL passes in his career than I have.
• We won the turnover battle 2-0
• Dallas handed us SEVEN 1st downs via penalty.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 2:04:42 PM   
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ChadGraff/status/1455000481269358593/photo/1Chickenshit checkdown


It's one thing to throw to a wide-open fullback. It's another to throw to your fullback with two defenders barreling down and a Pro Bowl WR open behind him. This led to another three-and-out.





Pretty much sums up our OLine too in 1 photo. Bradbury pushed all the back past our QB and Udoh blocking absolutely nobody
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 2:06:45 PM   
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Ben Goessling@GoesslingStrib
Danielle Hunter is having an MRI on his injured shoulder this morning, but the initial concern was the defensive end tore his pectoral muscle, according to a league source. If that turns out to be the case, it’d be a massive blow for the #Vikings defense.


I hope he's fine and plays for the rest of the year. I don't want to give Zim any reason to point to why he was not successful this year. The only way things are going to change is from the top down. I like the guy, but I think he has to go, sooner rather than later.



If losing 1 defensive starter throws your whole season down the toilet, you have way more issues than you're willing to admit. AKA, we're screwed no matter if Hunter is healthy enough to continue or not.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 2:07:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Ben Goessling@GoesslingStrib
Danielle Hunter is having an MRI on his injured shoulder this morning, but the initial concern was the defensive end tore his pectoral muscle, according to a league source. If that turns out to be the case, it’d be a massive blow for the #Vikings defense.


I hope he's fine and plays for the rest of the year. I don't want to give Zim any reason to point to why he was not successful this year. The only way things are going to change is from the top down. I like the guy, but I think he has to go, sooner rather than later.


I'm not even sure what is likable about him anymore.

Dude thinks he's Bill Parcells and he carries himself like he's won a few SBs.

He's arrogant, impossibly stubborn, defensive and belittling. He's quick to throw players under the bus, refuses to accept blame or make any efforts to improve.

Oh, and he can't beat good teams to save his life.

I thought this was his chance to beat a quality team


He was never going to get a better one.

• He was facing a QB that had thrown 3 more NFL passes in his career than I have.
• We won the turnover battle 2-0
• Dallas handed us SEVEN 1st downs via penalty.

Bingo! Enough is enough! Get this loser out of town asap!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 2:07:28 PM   
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ChadGraff/status/1455000481269358593/photo/1Chickenshit checkdown


It's one thing to throw to a wide-open fullback. It's another to throw to your fullback with two defenders barreling down and a Pro Bowl WR open behind him. This led to another three-and-out.





Pretty much sums up our OLine too in 1 photo. Bradbury pushed all the back past our QB and Udoh blocking absolutely nobody


I thought he was tired of seeing that shit and was leaving.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 2:08:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Zimmer has always been what we see now... total False Bravado... Arrogant, condescending, prickish know it all, inflexible and stubborn to a fault. Saw exactly what he was in the Case Keenum season...

Most glaring this year because for first time he has surrounded himself with very little tenured football minds in assistant coach ranks. Its all his game, Its Zimmerball 100 percent pure shit and we are all ODing on the bad high...

The emperor has no clothes and its plain to see...

His field general KC is a panzy...

The ranks of soldiers are turning on him...

The media he despises is calling it as they rightfully see it and its going to cause the lil fake General's head to explode soon!

...also agree Zimmer shows high probability traits of being an alcoholic... bad mix with his persona...
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 2:11:04 PM   
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ChadGraff/status/1455000481269358593/photo/1Chickenshit checkdown


It's one thing to throw to a wide-open fullback. It's another to throw to your fullback with two defenders barreling down and a Pro Bowl WR open behind him. This led to another three-and-out.





Pretty much sums up our OLine too in 1 photo. Bradbury pushed all the back past our QB and Udoh blocking absolutely nobody


Ha! I just noticed Udoh blocking the air. The Bradbury thing was to be expected. That's his default setting. Could Davis be any worse than either of those guys?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 2:11:34 PM   
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...also agree Zimmer shows high probability traits of being an alcoholic... bad mix with his persona...


The persona and the alcoholism come as a package deal. This I know from first-hand experience.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 2:12:10 PM   
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Status: online 		They won't show up on the official stat sheet, but Udoh had back-to-back holding penalties declined.

Not sure I've ever seen that before.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 2:14:28 PM   
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Ben Goessling@GoesslingStrib
Danielle Hunter is having an MRI on his injured shoulder this morning, but the initial concern was the defensive end tore his pectoral muscle, according to a league source. If that turns out to be the case, it’d be a massive blow for the #Vikings defense.


I hope he's fine and plays for the rest of the year. I don't want to give Zim any reason to point to why he was not successful this year. The only way things are going to change is from the top down. I like the guy, but I think he has to go, sooner rather than later.


I'm not even sure what is likable about him anymore.

Dude thinks he's Bill Parcells and he carries himself like he's won a few SBs.

He's arrogant, impossibly stubborn, defensive and belittling. He's quick to throw players under the bus, refuses to accept blame or make any efforts to improve.

Oh, and he can't beat good teams to save his life.


67-51-1 in the regular season, 2-3 in the playoffs, 0 SB appearances.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 2:17:01 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 3:18:10 PM   
HL OSWALD

 

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Status: offline 		Mike Zimmer’s fate is sealed with Minnesota Vikings

Minnesota Vikings statements after their loss to the Dallas Cowboys. Cooper Rush beat Kirk Cousins, let that sink in!; Why “it’s over” for the Minnesota Vikings; Is Dallas Cowboys offensive coordinator Kellen Moore the next head coach of the Minnesota Vikings?; Is Justin Jefferson going to pull a Stefon Diggs on this team?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHkKlgOxtn8
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 3:32:02 PM   
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Oh boy...

Will Ragatz
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Thielen: "If you're not frustrated, there's something wrong with you, and you shouldn't be on this team, you shouldn't be a coach."


Thielen is saying all the thing publicly that Diggs was accused of saying behind the scenes...


"... and you shouldn't be a coach."

I don't think that's an accurate quote - maybe I'm wrong


"If you’re not frustrated, there’s something wrong with you and you shouldn’t be on this team. You shouldn’t be a coach if you’re not frustrated," said Thielen, who led the Vikings with six catches for 78 yards. "We’ve got quality guys, good football players on this team. So if you’re not frustrated, there’s something wrong with you."

https://www.fox9.com/sports/minnesota-vikings-vs-dallas-cowboys-week-8-game-post


Thanks

I read Scoggins where he just quoted, "So if you’re not frustrated, there’s something wrong with you."
And he didn't elaborate on that, just an example of AT being frustrated.

I personally don't see this as an assault on Zimmer but it clearly indicates an unhappy man. Context beyond that is not clear, imo.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/1/2021 3:33:49 PM   
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