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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

I am 6’4 ..

My right arm is 32.75 “ long from armpit to middle finger tip..

STFU about “ t-Rex arms”

You know nothing.

Just stating the facts.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

I am 6’4 ..

My right arm is 32.75 “ long from armpit to middle finger tip..

STFU about “ t-Rex arms”

You know nothing.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

I am 6’4 ..

My right arm is 32.75 “ long from armpit to middle finger tip..

STFU about “ t-Rex arms”

You know nothing.

Just stating the facts.

False equivalency and hyperbole is not a fact.

There are way more important aspects to being IOL, than some obsession about “T-Rex arms”..

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

If Lindenbaum drops to our pick in the 2nd would that work?

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

If Lindenbaum drops to our pick in the 2nd would that work?

Part of the problem, is having PTSD from Bradbury …

Maybe thats not fair to Lindenbaum but why go at the same issue twice the same way when it failed miserably the first time? Its a vast oversimplification but … with so many needs, why mock and taunt the fool me once gods …

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

I am 6’4 ..

My right arm is 32.75 “ long from armpit to middle finger tip..

STFU about “ t-Rex arms”

You know nothing.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

If Lindenbaum drops to our pick in the 2nd would that work?

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

If Lindenbaum drops to our pick in the 2nd would that work?

Part of the problem, is having PTSD from Bradbury …

Maybe thats not fair to Lindenbaum but why go at the same issue twice the same way when it failed miserably the first time? Its a vast oversimplification but … with so many needs, why mock and taunt the fool me once gods …

Bradbury was a reach and is very close to be considered a bust (depending on how this year pans out). Under that theory we wouldn't have drafted Jefferson (last WR we drafted in the first round was a fail) and we shouldn't draft CB then either. Hughes and Gladney could be considered bad reaches; with Gladney a double down.

Just don't reach for anyone and if Lindenbaum falls don't be afraid to draft him at value.

PTSD would be if Lindenbaum fell to us in the 2nd and we traded down....lol

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

If Lindenbaum drops to our pick in the 2nd would that work?

I'd take him at 12 if those above us take too many CBs.

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

If Lindenbaum drops to our pick in the 2nd would that work?

I'd take him at 12 if those above us take too many CBs.

I'd trade back a few spots and get an extra 2nd or 3rd.

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

If Lindenbaum drops to our pick in the 2nd would that work?

I'd take him at 12 if those above us take too many CBs.

I'd trade back a few spots and get an extra 2nd or 3rd.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

If Lindenbaum drops to our pick in the 2nd would that work?

Part of the problem, is having PTSD from Bradbury …

Maybe thats not fair to Lindenbaum but why go at the same issue twice the same way when it failed miserably the first time? Its a vast oversimplification but … with so many needs, why mock and taunt the fool me once gods …

Bradbury was a reach and is very close to be considered a bust (depending on how this year pans out). Under that theory we wouldn't have drafted Jefferson (last WR we drafted in the first round was a fail) and we shouldn't draft CB then either. Hughes and Gladney could be considered bad reaches; with Gladney a double down.

Just don't reach for anyone and if Lindenbaum falls don't be afraid to draft him at value.

PTSD would be if Lindenbaum fell to us in the 2nd and we traded down....lol

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

If Lindenbaum drops to our pick in the 2nd would that work?

Part of the problem, is having PTSD from Bradbury …

Maybe thats not fair to Lindenbaum but why go at the same issue twice the same way when it failed miserably the first time? Its a vast oversimplification but … with so many needs, why mock and taunt the fool me once gods …

Bradbury was a reach and is very close to be considered a bust (depending on how this year pans out). Under that theory we wouldn't have drafted Jefferson (last WR we drafted in the first round was a fail) and we shouldn't draft CB then either. Hughes and Gladney could be considered bad reaches; with Gladney a double down.

Just don't reach for anyone and if Lindenbaum falls don't be afraid to draft him at value.

PTSD would be if Lindenbaum fell to us in the 2nd and we traded down....lol

Bradbury was not a reach, he was solidly in the first rd. I just checked four of the usual irrefutable draft prognosticators and they had him going to us at 19 or the Ravens at 22, with accolades like 'best C prospect in the last 5 years'. Gee, where have we heard that?

Also, Bradbury is a bust, there's no way around it. They might keep him because he's under contract, there's not a lot out there and we don't have any spare change to throw around ... but he is not going to hold up on passing downs without help. Time to move on.

Also Also, I never said don't draft the same position twice in a row [much less 4 years apart], I said don't draft the same player twice in a row to address the same problem that wasn't fixed the first time. (BTW, Bradbury was drafted to fix the 3rd rd Elflein issue so we are positionally beyond the 'fool me twice, shame on you Phil' schtick)

I said it was a gross oversimplification [as in there are other factors] but obviously not simple enough.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

If Lindenbaum drops to our pick in the 2nd would that work?

Part of the problem, is having PTSD from Bradbury …

Maybe thats not fair to Lindenbaum but why go at the same issue twice the same way when it failed miserably the first time? Its a vast oversimplification but … with so many needs, why mock and taunt the fool me once gods …

Bradbury was a reach and is very close to be considered a bust (depending on how this year pans out). Under that theory we wouldn't have drafted Jefferson (last WR we drafted in the first round was a fail) and we shouldn't draft CB then either. Hughes and Gladney could be considered bad reaches; with Gladney a double down.

Just don't reach for anyone and if Lindenbaum falls don't be afraid to draft him at value.

PTSD would be if Lindenbaum fell to us in the 2nd and we traded down....lol

Bradbury was not a reach, he was solidly in the first rd. I just checked four of the usual irrefutable draft prognosticators and they had him going to us at 19 or the Ravens at 22, with accolades like 'best C prospect in the last 5 years'. Gee, where have we heard that?

Also, Bradbury is a bust, there's no way around it. They might keep him because he's under contract, there's not a lot out there and we don't have any spare change to throw around ... but he is not going to hold up on passing downs without help. Time to move on.

Also Also, I never said don't draft the same position twice in a row [much less 4 years apart], I said don't draft the same player twice in a row to address the same problem that wasn't fixed the first time. (BTW, Bradbury was drafted to fix the 3rd rd Elflein issue so we are positionally beyond the 'fool me twice, shame on you Phil' schtick)

I said it was a gross oversimplification [as in there are other factors] but obviously not simple enough.

as i remember it; Bradbury was billed as a 'once in a generation' type of center...that's what makes his failure so disappointing - it seemed like an absolute can't miss pick....

i don't want to pick another center in the first two rounds unless he's a 6'-7", 370lb mauler that belongs in a maximum security prison...a dude that has already ended half a dozen college careers and forced hafþór björnsson to beg for mercy...i don't even care if he can run, he just needs an uncontrollable passion to crush everything in front of him....

nothing like that in the 2022 draft....

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

Bradbury is a BUST. We definitely need a better Center. My belief is that our new GM and staff will address this.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

I am 6’4 ..

My right arm is 32.75 “ long from armpit to middle finger tip..

STFU about “ t-Rex arms”

You know nothing.

Calm down Dan, the Vikings might still draft you.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Linderbaum certainly has some good aspects for college, seems speed and maneuverability are the main ones. Conversely, there is this:

Even while being an exceptional athlete, there may be some concerns about Linderbaum being undersized. He fits in just under 300 pounds, which isn’t exactly ideal when the person lining up across from you every snap outweighs you by 30-50 pounds.

The size issue plays into his other weakness that appeared on tape, which was a pure bull rush by large athletes. His technique was still good, but sometimes he was simply overwhelmed by raw size/strength combos. This won’t get any easier at the next level.

Have visualized that all too well with Badbury. So it happened to Linderbaum in college, and IMO these draft reviews are not forthright enough expressing just how much worse that projects in the pros. It's not situational dependent, or due to a lack of coaching. It's simply a monster DT running over these lightweights. Finesse and technique end up on the turf.

Then again, people are content stating and waiting 2+ years for the proverbial "give him time to bulk up", which may or may not even happen.