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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 10:29:12 AM

Trekgeekscott

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OK. so I don't know much about any college player but I will say this. It is a bad year for QBs. DON'T DRAFT ONE HIGH. Any such selection this year would be a giant reach.

I heard someone on the radio that basically said Drew Lock would be headlining this class of QBs. Don't know how true that is but if there is even remotely any chance of truth there...QBs should probably be avoided in the higher rounds.

The "experts" are now predicting as many as 5 QBs could go in the first round. I REALLY hope the Vikings aren't one team that takes one.

That is all

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 10:35:50 AM

Daniel Lee Young

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We have hitched our wagon to KFC.. come what May..
We need db’s and some solid IOL to keep KFC upright long enough to make his god damn braille speed reads of who is open enough to risk an incompletion..

And run stopping support players..

You give up 4.7 yPc you ain’t winning anything relevant, any time soon.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 10:56:09 AM

Phil Riewer

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Mock Draft on DailyNorseman:
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/4/12/23021817/2022-the-legacy-live-mock-draft-vikings
Trades
The Vikings traded Wyatt Davis to the Falcons for pick #116 (4th round).
The Vikings traded DJ Wonnum to the Seahawks for a 4th (109) and 5th (153).
The Vikings traded 12 to the Eagles for 18 & 74 before the draft

1.18 OLB/DE Travon Walker 6’5” 272 #5 on the consensus big board
The Vikings traded 46, 77, & 116 to the Cardinals for 34 & 87
2.34 OG Kenyon Green 6’3.7” 323 #27 on the consensus big board
3.68 CB Roger McCreary 5’11.3” 190 #37 on the consensus big board
3.87 RB Breece Hall 5’11.2” 217 #36 on the consensus big board
The Vikings trade Alexander Mattison to the Browns for pick #203 and a 2023 4th.
4.109 WR Wan’Dale Robinson 5’8” 178 #68 on the consensus big board
5.153 S Tycen Anderson 6’1.7” 209
6.184 DT John Ridgeway 6’5.1” 321
6.192 CB Tariq Castro-Fields 6’0.5” 197
6.203 TE Grant Calcaterra 6’3.7” 241
6.209 LB Mike Rose 6’3.7” 245 4.69
7.233 DE Esezi Otomewo 6’5.2” 282

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 10:58:12 AM

Bill Johanesen

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Today it's trade down day. Parlay #12, the 2nd, and the 3rd round picks into three picks in the 20-40 ranges. Add in something to make the 'points' work.

Draft Davis, Elam/McCreary, and a center. Davis starts and platoons with Tomlinson. The CB is eased in. The center is crowned the minute he is drafted as Badbury should never start another game for us.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 11:00:34 AM

Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Not sure how to respond to that. Not bc I'm bothered by it but bc I'm not sure if it's just Bill getting me back for calling out his negativity or whether it's JC posting under Bill's account again.

Either way...suck a giant penis.

That really happened??

I think it just appears that the reincarnation of JC flames up on occasion.

Kinda surprised you'd chime in on such a topic.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 12:25:40 PM

Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Weakest Main Backups (ourlads depth chart)

Every position except RB (Mattison) and WR (Osborn)

I consider Osborn a 'starter' presuming we pass more.

If there was an expansion draft and the new teams could take a backup, Mattison would be the only one taken. Maybe Wonnum.

Our depth is absolute trash. Can't recall it ever being worse. Spielman ran this team into the ground.

True, Osborn (like SCB Sullivan) is technically a starter, not a back-up. I still operate from the old electric vibrating football game formations.

The Rams last season used a 1 RB 1 TE 3 WR formation on 86% of their plays [plus 2% with 4 WR]. We were at 47%; the next closest to the Rams was CIN at 77%, only 5 teams were over 70%. So even if the make-up of our roster looks different ... it does make you wonder if we are going to rank WR higher on our draft board, not just for future oil sheik Jefferson considerations [and Thielen] ... but based on scheme as well ... [plus the Rams being down to one dinged up Kupp and nothing else in the SB might have left an aftertaste with KOC as well]

https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/personnel-grouping-frequency.html

Interesting that the Rams used a FB 0%. High-priced Ham (for a FB) is like a loose baby tooth, hanging onto the roster by the thinnest of connective gum tissues.

Also, the Rams only used a 2 TE set 12% of the time. Even if we mimic the Rams, Smith needing to prove he is 'the guy' and that he can stay healthy, and not having a viable back-up TE at this point ... almost guarantees one in the draft. [Hopefully. Much preferred over Kwesi dipping into the Zimmer bag again and pulling out a cheap Rudolph]

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 12:34:58 PM

Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Mock Draft on DailyNorseman:
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/4/12/23021817/2022-the-legacy-live-mock-draft-vikings
Trades
The Vikings traded Wyatt Davis to the Falcons for pick #116 (4th round).
The Vikings traded DJ Wonnum to the Seahawks for a 4th (109) and 5th (153).
The Vikings traded 12 to the Eagles for 18 & 74 before the draft

1.18 OLB/DE Travon Walker 6’5” 272 #5 on the consensus big board
The Vikings traded 46, 77, & 116 to the Cardinals for 34 & 87
2.34 OG Kenyon Green 6’3.7” 323 #27 on the consensus big board
3.68 CB Roger McCreary 5’11.3” 190 #37 on the consensus big board
3.87 RB Breece Hall 5’11.2” 217 #36 on the consensus big board
The Vikings trade Alexander Mattison to the Browns for pick #203 and a 2023 4th.
4.109 WR Wan’Dale Robinson 5’8” 178 #68 on the consensus big board
5.153 S Tycen Anderson 6’1.7” 209
6.184 DT John Ridgeway 6’5.1” 321
6.192 CB Tariq Castro-Fields 6’0.5” 197
6.203 TE Grant Calcaterra 6’3.7” 241
6.209 LB Mike Rose 6’3.7” 245 4.69
7.233 DE Esezi Otomewo 6’5.2” 282

Its impossible to get past third rd OG last year [who never saw a down at a terribly weak position] getting us a 4th rd pick this year. How about getting us a goat and some chickens?

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 12:38:15 PM

Tom Sykes

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 1:36:54 PM

Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

nm

?? I thought the post was good. It isn't enough for a mocker to magically and consistently select players a round or two after their projection (hey, players fall), they then introduce trades that wildly overinflate the return for players traded away (it just takes one team to bite). The draft value chart could help bring them to reality WRT trading picks for picks but I doubt they use it (pfff, that chart is outdated).

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 1:48:54 PM

Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Weakest Main Backups (ourlads depth chart)

Every position except RB (Mattison) and WR (Osborn)

I consider Osborn a 'starter' presuming we pass more.

If there was an expansion draft and the new teams could take a backup, Mattison would be the only one taken. Maybe Wonnum.

Our depth is absolute trash. Can't recall it ever being worse. Spielman ran this team into the ground.

True, Osborn (like SCB Sullivan) is technically a starter, not a back-up. I still operate from the old electric vibrating football game formations.

The Rams last season used a 1 RB 1 TE 3 WR formation on 86% of their plays [plus 2% with 4 WR]. We were at 47%; the next closest to the Rams was CIN at 77%, only 5 teams were over 70%. So even if the make-up of our roster looks different ... it does make you wonder if we are going to rank WR higher on our draft board, not just for future oil sheik Jefferson considerations [and Thielen] ... but based on scheme as well ... [plus the Rams being down to one dinged up Kupp and nothing else in the SB might have left an aftertaste with KOC as well]

https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/personnel-grouping-frequency.html

Interesting that the Rams used a FB 0%. High-priced Ham (for a FB) is like a loose baby tooth, hanging onto the roster by the thinnest of connective gum tissues.

Also, the Rams only used a 2 TE set 12% of the time. Even if we mimic the Rams, Smith needing to prove he is 'the guy' and that he can stay healthy, and not having a viable back-up TE at this point ... almost guarantees one in the draft. [Hopefully. Much preferred over Kwesi dipping into the Zimmer bag again and pulling out a cheap Rudolph]

The guys on the McVay coaching tree are in the high range as far as 3WR, with GB's LaFleur the lowest at 70%.

Thielen's decreasing production/increasing cap, Obsorn as a middling starter, the over/under on # of Brinks cars Jefferson requires, and scheme all point to WR being a high need.

Maybe we'll draft a WR at #12 and go with 42-41 shootouts.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 2:15:14 PM

ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Mock Draft on DailyNorseman:
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/4/12/23021817/2022-the-legacy-live-mock-draft-vikings
Trades
The Vikings traded Wyatt Davis to the Falcons for pick #116 (4th round).
The Vikings traded DJ Wonnum to the Seahawks for a 4th (109) and 5th (153).
The Vikings traded 12 to the Eagles for 18 & 74 before the draft

1.18 OLB/DE Travon Walker 6’5” 272 #5 on the consensus big board
The Vikings traded 46, 77, & 116 to the Cardinals for 34 & 87
2.34 OG Kenyon Green 6’3.7” 323 #27 on the consensus big board
3.68 CB Roger McCreary 5’11.3” 190 #37 on the consensus big board
3.87 RB Breece Hall 5’11.2” 217 #36 on the consensus big board
The Vikings trade Alexander Mattison to the Browns for pick #203 and a 2023 4th.
4.109 WR Wan’Dale Robinson 5’8” 178 #68 on the consensus big board
5.153 S Tycen Anderson 6’1.7” 209
6.184 DT John Ridgeway 6’5.1” 321
6.192 CB Tariq Castro-Fields 6’0.5” 197
6.203 TE Grant Calcaterra 6’3.7” 241
6.209 LB Mike Rose 6’3.7” 245 4.69
7.233 DE Esezi Otomewo 6’5.2” 282

what happened to #74 the eagles gave us?

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 2:25:32 PM

Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Mock Draft on DailyNorseman:
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/4/12/23021817/2022-the-legacy-live-mock-draft-vikings
Trades
The Vikings traded Wyatt Davis to the Falcons for pick #116 (4th round).
The Vikings traded DJ Wonnum to the Seahawks for a 4th (109) and 5th (153).
The Vikings traded 12 to the Eagles for 18 & 74 before the draft

1.18 OLB/DE Travon Walker 6’5” 272 #5 on the consensus big board
The Vikings traded 46, 77, & 116 to the Cardinals for 34 & 87
2.34 OG Kenyon Green 6’3.7” 323 #27 on the consensus big board
3.68 CB Roger McCreary 5’11.3” 190 #37 on the consensus big board
3.87 RB Breece Hall 5’11.2” 217 #36 on the consensus big board
The Vikings trade Alexander Mattison to the Browns for pick #203 and a 2023 4th.
4.109 WR Wan’Dale Robinson 5’8” 178 #68 on the consensus big board
5.153 S Tycen Anderson 6’1.7” 209
6.184 DT John Ridgeway 6’5.1” 321
6.192 CB Tariq Castro-Fields 6’0.5” 197
6.203 TE Grant Calcaterra 6’3.7” 241
6.209 LB Mike Rose 6’3.7” 245 4.69
7.233 DE Esezi Otomewo 6’5.2” 282

what happened to #74 the eagles gave us?

We traded it for a 2023 first rounder ;)

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 3:44:07 PM

thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Mock Draft on DailyNorseman:
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/4/12/23021817/2022-the-legacy-live-mock-draft-vikings
Trades
The Vikings traded Wyatt Davis to the Falcons for pick #116 (4th round).
The Vikings traded DJ Wonnum to the Seahawks for a 4th (109) and 5th (153).
The Vikings traded 12 to the Eagles for 18 & 74 before the draft

1.18 OLB/DE Travon Walker 6’5” 272 #5 on the consensus big board
The Vikings traded 46, 77, & 116 to the Cardinals for 34 & 87
2.34 OG Kenyon Green 6’3.7” 323 #27 on the consensus big board
3.68 CB Roger McCreary 5’11.3” 190 #37 on the consensus big board
3.87 RB Breece Hall 5’11.2” 217 #36 on the consensus big board
The Vikings trade Alexander Mattison to the Browns for pick #203 and a 2023 4th.
4.109 WR Wan’Dale Robinson 5’8” 178 #68 on the consensus big board
5.153 S Tycen Anderson 6’1.7” 209
6.184 DT John Ridgeway 6’5.1” 321
6.192 CB Tariq Castro-Fields 6’0.5” 197
6.203 TE Grant Calcaterra 6’3.7” 241
6.209 LB Mike Rose 6’3.7” 245 4.69
7.233 DE Esezi Otomewo 6’5.2” 282

Its impossible to get past third rd OG last year [who never saw a down at a terribly weak position] getting us a 4th rd pick this year. How about getting us a goat and some chickens?

1 goat a year, we should be pretty good...

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 4:28:04 PM

bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Mock Draft on DailyNorseman:
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/4/12/23021817/2022-the-legacy-live-mock-draft-vikings
Trades
The Vikings traded Wyatt Davis to the Falcons for pick #116 (4th round).
The Vikings traded DJ Wonnum to the Seahawks for a 4th (109) and 5th (153).
The Vikings traded 12 to the Eagles for 18 & 74 before the draft

1.18 OLB/DE Travon Walker 6’5” 272 #5 on the consensus big board
The Vikings traded 46, 77, & 116 to the Cardinals for 34 & 87
2.34 OG Kenyon Green 6’3.7” 323 #27 on the consensus big board
3.68 CB Roger McCreary 5’11.3” 190 #37 on the consensus big board
3.87 RB Breece Hall 5’11.2” 217 #36 on the consensus big board
The Vikings trade Alexander Mattison to the Browns for pick #203 and a 2023 4th.
4.109 WR Wan’Dale Robinson 5’8” 178 #68 on the consensus big board
5.153 S Tycen Anderson 6’1.7” 209
6.184 DT John Ridgeway 6’5.1” 321
6.192 CB Tariq Castro-Fields 6’0.5” 197
6.203 TE Grant Calcaterra 6’3.7” 241
6.209 LB Mike Rose 6’3.7” 245 4.69
7.233 DE Esezi Otomewo 6’5.2” 282

Why is this idiocy worth commenting on?

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 4:32:35 PM

bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Weakest Main Backups (ourlads depth chart)

Every position except RB (Mattison) and WR (Osborn)

I consider Osborn a 'starter' presuming we pass more.

If there was an expansion draft and the new teams could take a backup, Mattison would be the only one taken. Maybe Wonnum.

Our depth is absolute trash. Can't recall it ever being worse. Spielman ran this team into the ground.

True, Osborn (like SCB Sullivan) is technically a starter, not a back-up. I still operate from the old electric vibrating football game formations.

The Rams last season used a 1 RB 1 TE 3 WR formation on 86% of their plays [plus 2% with 4 WR]. We were at 47%; the next closest to the Rams was CIN at 77%, only 5 teams were over 70%. So even if the make-up of our roster looks different ... it does make you wonder if we are going to rank WR higher on our draft board, not just for future oil sheik Jefferson considerations [and Thielen] ... but based on scheme as well ... [plus the Rams being down to one dinged up Kupp and nothing else in the SB might have left an aftertaste with KOC as well]

https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/personnel-grouping-frequency.html

Interesting that the Rams used a FB 0%. High-priced Ham (for a FB) is like a loose baby tooth, hanging onto the roster by the thinnest of connective gum tissues.

Also, the Rams only used a 2 TE set 12% of the time. Even if we mimic the Rams, Smith needing to prove he is 'the guy' and that he can stay healthy, and not having a viable back-up TE at this point ... almost guarantees one in the draft. [Hopefully. Much preferred over Kwesi dipping into the Zimmer bag again and pulling out a cheap Rudolph]

Wish I had posted this (and not been mocked).

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 4:56:34 PM

Todd M

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Mock Draft on DailyNorseman:
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/4/12/23021817/2022-the-legacy-live-mock-draft-vikings
Trades
The Vikings traded Wyatt Davis to the Falcons for pick #116 (4th round).
The Vikings traded DJ Wonnum to the Seahawks for a 4th (109) and 5th (153).
The Vikings traded 12 to the Eagles for 18 & 74 before the draft

1.18 OLB/DE Travon Walker 6’5” 272 #5 on the consensus big board
The Vikings traded 46, 77, & 116 to the Cardinals for 34 & 87
2.34 OG Kenyon Green 6’3.7” 323 #27 on the consensus big board
3.68 CB Roger McCreary 5’11.3” 190 #37 on the consensus big board
3.87 RB Breece Hall 5’11.2” 217 #36 on the consensus big board
The Vikings trade Alexander Mattison to the Browns for pick #203 and a 2023 4th.
4.109 WR Wan’Dale Robinson 5’8” 178 #68 on the consensus big board
5.153 S Tycen Anderson 6’1.7” 209
6.184 DT John Ridgeway 6’5.1” 321
6.192 CB Tariq Castro-Fields 6’0.5” 197
6.203 TE Grant Calcaterra 6’3.7” 241
6.209 LB Mike Rose 6’3.7” 245 4.69
7.233 DE Esezi Otomewo 6’5.2” 282

Why is this idiocy worth commenting on?

No link needed to know that was a Marksp18 'special'.

Any 7 round mock is likely to not be close to reality but this guy likes to add a dozen never gonna happen trades. Bloviated nonsense.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 5:39:37 PM

Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Weakest Main Backups (ourlads depth chart)

Every position except RB (Mattison) and WR (Osborn)

I consider Osborn a 'starter' presuming we pass more.

If there was an expansion draft and the new teams could take a backup, Mattison would be the only one taken. Maybe Wonnum.

Our depth is absolute trash. Can't recall it ever being worse. Spielman ran this team into the ground.

True, Osborn (like SCB Sullivan) is technically a starter, not a back-up. I still operate from the old electric vibrating football game formations.

The Rams last season used a 1 RB 1 TE 3 WR formation on 86% of their plays [plus 2% with 4 WR]. We were at 47%; the next closest to the Rams was CIN at 77%, only 5 teams were over 70%. So even if the make-up of our roster looks different ... it does make you wonder if we are going to rank WR higher on our draft board, not just for future oil sheik Jefferson considerations [and Thielen] ... but based on scheme as well ... [plus the Rams being down to one dinged up Kupp and nothing else in the SB might have left an aftertaste with KOC as well]

https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/personnel-grouping-frequency.html

Interesting that the Rams used a FB 0%. High-priced Ham (for a FB) is like a loose baby tooth, hanging onto the roster by the thinnest of connective gum tissues.

Also, the Rams only used a 2 TE set 12% of the time. Even if we mimic the Rams, Smith needing to prove he is 'the guy' and that he can stay healthy, and not having a viable back-up TE at this point ... almost guarantees one in the draft. [Hopefully. Much preferred over Kwesi dipping into the Zimmer bag again and pulling out a cheap Rudolph]

Wish I had posted this (and not been mocked).

Were you mocked as in 'shame' mocked, or as in 'fake drafted' mocked?

< Message edited by Tom Sykes -- 4/13/2022 5:42:31 PM >

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 6:00:43 PM

ratoppenheimer

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someone that most forgot about....

jayron kearse

6'-4"
215
4.62/40

pff grade for 2021
75.9...13/92

that's right, he was ranked as the 13th best safety last year, cap hit $3.7m...a 7th round pick, found himself in zimmer's dog house...let go by zimmer/spielman....

harrison smith was 77.9...11th best....
anthony harris was 62.0....53rd best....

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 10:50:32 PM

bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Weakest Main Backups (ourlads depth chart)

Every position except RB (Mattison) and WR (Osborn)

I consider Osborn a 'starter' presuming we pass more.

If there was an expansion draft and the new teams could take a backup, Mattison would be the only one taken. Maybe Wonnum.

Our depth is absolute trash. Can't recall it ever being worse. Spielman ran this team into the ground.

True, Osborn (like SCB Sullivan) is technically a starter, not a back-up. I still operate from the old electric vibrating football game formations.

The Rams last season used a 1 RB 1 TE 3 WR formation on 86% of their plays [plus 2% with 4 WR]. We were at 47%; the next closest to the Rams was CIN at 77%, only 5 teams were over 70%. So even if the make-up of our roster looks different ... it does make you wonder if we are going to rank WR higher on our draft board, not just for future oil sheik Jefferson considerations [and Thielen] ... but based on scheme as well ... [plus the Rams being down to one dinged up Kupp and nothing else in the SB might have left an aftertaste with KOC as well]

https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/personnel-grouping-frequency.html

Interesting that the Rams used a FB 0%. High-priced Ham (for a FB) is like a loose baby tooth, hanging onto the roster by the thinnest of connective gum tissues.

Also, the Rams only used a 2 TE set 12% of the time. Even if we mimic the Rams, Smith needing to prove he is 'the guy' and that he can stay healthy, and not having a viable back-up TE at this point ... almost guarantees one in the draft. [Hopefully. Much preferred over Kwesi dipping into the Zimmer bag again and pulling out a cheap Rudolph]

Wish I had posted this (and not been mocked).

Were you mocked as in 'shame' mocked, or as in 'fake drafted' mocked?

Bit of both, so I'll be sitting with my phone in my hand for all three days of the draft. My shame will be ever-present, as always.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/13/2022 11:02:24 PM 1 votes

bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Mock Draft on DailyNorseman:
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/4/12/23021817/2022-the-legacy-live-mock-draft-vikings
Trades
The Vikings traded Wyatt Davis to the Falcons for pick #116 (4th round).
The Vikings traded DJ Wonnum to the Seahawks for a 4th (109) and 5th (153).
The Vikings traded 12 to the Eagles for 18 & 74 before the draft

1.18 OLB/DE Travon Walker 6’5” 272 #5 on the consensus big board
The Vikings traded 46, 77, & 116 to the Cardinals for 34 & 87
2.34 OG Kenyon Green 6’3.7” 323 #27 on the consensus big board
3.68 CB Roger McCreary 5’11.3” 190 #37 on the consensus big board
3.87 RB Breece Hall 5’11.2” 217 #36 on the consensus big board
The Vikings trade Alexander Mattison to the Browns for pick #203 and a 2023 4th.
4.109 WR Wan’Dale Robinson 5’8” 178 #68 on the consensus big board
5.153 S Tycen Anderson 6’1.7” 209
6.184 DT John Ridgeway 6’5.1” 321
6.192 CB Tariq Castro-Fields 6’0.5” 197
6.203 TE Grant Calcaterra 6’3.7” 241
6.209 LB Mike Rose 6’3.7” 245 4.69
7.233 DE Esezi Otomewo 6’5.2” 282

Why is this idiocy worth commenting on?

No link needed to know that was a Marksp18 'special'.

Any 7 round mock is likely to not be close to reality but this guy likes to add a dozen never gonna happen trades. Bloviated nonsense.

BTW, the guy he has taking at 18 is in play to go first overall.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/14/2022 2:33:24 AM

ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

DB
DB
G
DE

WR
CB
IOL
IOL

i don't like picking at #12...i'd trade back for another 2nd round pick....

we could trade our three 6th round picks and move up to #125 in the 4th, or include our 5th rounder and move up to #108 in the 4th....

i think we're going to find that we're already deep with young talent at edge/de....

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/14/2022 9:07:50 AM

Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Mock Draft on DailyNorseman:
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/4/12/23021817/2022-the-legacy-live-mock-draft-vikings
Trades
The Vikings traded Wyatt Davis to the Falcons for pick #116 (4th round).
The Vikings traded DJ Wonnum to the Seahawks for a 4th (109) and 5th (153).
The Vikings traded 12 to the Eagles for 18 & 74 before the draft

1.18 OLB/DE Travon Walker 6’5” 272 #5 on the consensus big board
The Vikings traded 46, 77, & 116 to the Cardinals for 34 & 87
2.34 OG Kenyon Green 6’3.7” 323 #27 on the consensus big board
3.68 CB Roger McCreary 5’11.3” 190 #37 on the consensus big board
3.87 RB Breece Hall 5’11.2” 217 #36 on the consensus big board
The Vikings trade Alexander Mattison to the Browns for pick #203 and a 2023 4th.
4.109 WR Wan’Dale Robinson 5’8” 178 #68 on the consensus big board
5.153 S Tycen Anderson 6’1.7” 209
6.184 DT John Ridgeway 6’5.1” 321
6.192 CB Tariq Castro-Fields 6’0.5” 197
6.203 TE Grant Calcaterra 6’3.7” 241
6.209 LB Mike Rose 6’3.7” 245 4.69
7.233 DE Esezi Otomewo 6’5.2” 282

Why is this idiocy worth commenting on?

No link needed to know that was a Marksp18 'special'.

Any 7 round mock is likely to not be close to reality but this guy likes to add a dozen never gonna happen trades. Bloviated nonsense.

BTW, the guy he has taking at 18 is in play to go first overall.

Just to defend the guy(MarkSP, no it's not me) a little bit.

It was him and 31 other guys doing it.

He states that it is very unrealistic.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/14/2022 10:49:09 AM

bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Mock Draft on DailyNorseman:
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/4/12/23021817/2022-the-legacy-live-mock-draft-vikings
Trades
The Vikings traded Wyatt Davis to the Falcons for pick #116 (4th round).
The Vikings traded DJ Wonnum to the Seahawks for a 4th (109) and 5th (153).
The Vikings traded 12 to the Eagles for 18 & 74 before the draft

1.18 OLB/DE Travon Walker 6’5” 272 #5 on the consensus big board
The Vikings traded 46, 77, & 116 to the Cardinals for 34 & 87
2.34 OG Kenyon Green 6’3.7” 323 #27 on the consensus big board
3.68 CB Roger McCreary 5’11.3” 190 #37 on the consensus big board
3.87 RB Breece Hall 5’11.2” 217 #36 on the consensus big board
The Vikings trade Alexander Mattison to the Browns for pick #203 and a 2023 4th.
4.109 WR Wan’Dale Robinson 5’8” 178 #68 on the consensus big board
5.153 S Tycen Anderson 6’1.7” 209
6.184 DT John Ridgeway 6’5.1” 321
6.192 CB Tariq Castro-Fields 6’0.5” 197
6.203 TE Grant Calcaterra 6’3.7” 241
6.209 LB Mike Rose 6’3.7” 245 4.69
7.233 DE Esezi Otomewo 6’5.2” 282

Why is this idiocy worth commenting on?

No link needed to know that was a Marksp18 'special'.

Any 7 round mock is likely to not be close to reality but this guy likes to add a dozen never gonna happen trades. Bloviated nonsense.

BTW, the guy he has taking at 18 is in play to go first overall.

Just to defend the guy(MarkSP, no it's not me) a little bit.

It was him and 31 other guys doing it.

He states that it is very unrealistic.

Which goes back to my original question of why post it here? How is that remotely interesting? (Not asking you.)

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/14/2022 11:39:32 AM

Pauldiercks1

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How about the team figure out where the top two corners will go and if needed trade up to get one of the two.
Studs win you games and play big in big games.

I think all these trade back scenarios are old and stale. We hopefully hit on a player and mostly fill in average players to complete the roster at best and finish around 500.
Go get the player we need and then fill in. We need some added star power on defense. I prefer DB obviously but adding any defensive stud is important.

Also fixing the center position with a solid player Would be huge on offense.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 4/14/2022 12:32:26 PM

Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

DB
DB
G
DE

WR
CB
IOL
IOL

i don't like picking at #12...i'd trade back for another 2nd round pick....

we could trade our three 6th round picks and move up to #125 in the 4th, or include our 5th rounder and move up to #108 in the 4th....

i think we're going to find that we're already deep with young talent at edge/de....

CB (Defcon 1, 'cocked pistol')
C (Defcon 2, 'we need to unsheath')
S (Defcon 3, 'belligerent')

Not just because Dantzler, Bradbury, Bynum are our weakest starters but there is absolutely zilch – not even a Zimmer blacklisted no show mystery like Mond or W Davis – to fantasize about stepping in. TE is as weak / shallow also but not sure how much it will factor into our new offense.

Such a weird start to the regime, not even sure FA and the draft are hands on the same body, much less working hand in hand.

ZAD and Hicks (to a much lesser degree) are Kwesi's legitimate signings and shoe-in starters. No draft attention there.

DT Phillips, RG Reed-J Davis, CB Peterson, SCB Sullivan are hand-regime-picked probable starters, by default ... (Peterson was a hand-picked recycle). Think of Kwesi and his little pipette dropping these guys into a petri dish, hoping to culture some good hairy bacteria on top the of the baseline jelly-like Spielman stuff (from the last few drafts).

OK I went way too far there, I apologize.

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