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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/4/2022 7:49:59 PM

Tom Sykes

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Cousins has been oopsie with the ball. The ball has bounced back to him as though there was heavenly intervention.

... maybe the Monty Python animation kind.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/5/2022 3:38:43 PM

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Georgia DT Jordan Davis: 6'6" 340 4.82 forty

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/6/2022 7:35:43 AM

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A few QBs are climbing up the draft boards now as teams look for a reason to believe.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/6/2022 10:58:55 AM 1 votes

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Trade Cousins!!

Get picks and lets finally move on. Lots of money and draft capital. sounds fun to me

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/7/2022 9:55:34 AM 1 votes

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I want to get through this draft wo hearing 'we had a bunch of guys rated equally so we traded down'. I want to see clear targeting of players we want.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/7/2022 10:17:00 AM

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Sorry Todd. Five stars is the most I could give you.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/7/2022 2:55:22 PM

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A few QBs are climbing up the draft boards now as teams look for a reason to believe.

Most of the QBs in this draft are not worthy of where they will end up being picked.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/7/2022 3:34:06 PM

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A few QBs are climbing up the draft boards now as teams look for a reason to believe.

Most of the QBs in this draft are not worthy of where they will end up being picked.

I would say the same of the 2021 draft....Lawrence, Wilson, Lance, and Fields.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/7/2022 4:32:15 PM

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A few QBs are climbing up the draft boards now as teams look for a reason to believe.

Most of the QBs in this draft are not worthy of where they will end up being picked.

I would say the same of the 2021 draft....Lawrence, Wilson, Lance, and Fields.

I think lawrence will be fine. That club was dogwater last season. If he gets a little coaching and support, he’ll be fine. The other guys, though...

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/12/2022 3:41:24 PM

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A lot of tall cb’s ran really well at the combine. I’m still impressed by Gardener from Cincy. McDuffie is impressive, too.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/15/2022 11:59:19 PM

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Way too early picks

1) OLB/DE Ojabo Michigan
2) CB Booth Jr. Clemson
3) CB Taylor Tennesee

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/16/2022 9:26:03 AM

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We at least have some DEs signed for a couple of years, although a 3-4 D could mix everything up. But we need CBs in the worst way.

A CB at 12 could also be BPA. Bonus points for CB being a premium position.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/18/2022 12:01:14 PM

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We at least have some DEs signed for a couple of years, although a 3-4 D could mix everything up. But we need CBs in the worst way.

A CB at 12 could also be BPA. Bonus points for CB being a premium position.

There will be several talented cb's available at 12. It will just be a matter of which one most fits what we want to do on defense.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/19/2022 10:33:29 AM

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Way too early picks

1) OLB/DE Ojabo Michigan
2) CB Booth Jr. Clemson
3) CB Taylor Tennesee

1) Stingley
2) Booth Jr.
3) Edge: Ebiketie (Penn St.)

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/19/2022 10:31:05 PM

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Draft..

1. CB
2. OL
3. OL
4. CB..
….
SPACKLE..
SPACKLE..
SPACKLE..
SMOOTH..
See what the f happens, if cousins can have time to read his fn slow progressions…

Sigh.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/20/2022 5:18:14 PM

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Way too early picks

1) OLB/DE Ojabo Michigan
2) CB Booth Jr. Clemson
3) CB Taylor Tennesee

DE Ojabo tore his acchles tendon at the Michigan Por Day

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/21/2022 8:11:07 AM

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You gotta have corners. If you don't, you aren't stopping anyone in the year 2022.

You can have all of the defensive linemen you want. If you can't cover, you're dead. A great corner will make an average defensive lineman look good. It doesn't work the other way around.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/21/2022 8:45:40 AM

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You gotta have corners. If you don't, you aren't stopping anyone in the year 2022.

You can have all of the defensive linemen you want. If you can't cover, you're dead. A great corner will make an average defensive lineman look good. It doesn't work the other way around.

I think the worst part was investing in Alexander and Breeland last year. Took a year of development from Dantzler and Boyd.

Draft 3-4 and go from there. Peterson may be back and New Def Cord may have influence on a couple of FA; some decent players out there yet:

CB Stephon Gilmore 31
CB Bryce Callahan 30 (slot)
CB Patrick Peterson 31
CB K’Waun Williams (slot)
CB Kyle Fuller 30
CB Mike Hughes 25
CB Kevin King 26
CB Chandon Sullivan 25
S Jayron Kearse 28
S Terrell Edmunds 25
S Ronnie Harrison 24
S Deshon Elliot 24
C JC Tretter 31
C Nick Martin 28
G/T Billy Turner 30
G Will Hernandez 26

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/21/2022 9:14:36 AM

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You gotta have corners. If you don't, you aren't stopping anyone in the year 2022.

You can have all of the defensive linemen you want. If you can't cover, you're dead. A great corner will make an average defensive lineman look good. It doesn't work the other way around.

This offseason is so … comatose … I almost appreciate you trying to stir it up.

< Message edited by Tom Sykes -- 3/21/2022 9:15:51 AM >

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/21/2022 9:19:44 AM

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You gotta have corners. If you don't, you aren't stopping anyone in the year 2022.

You can have all of the defensive linemen you want. If you can't cover, you're dead. A great corner will make an average defensive lineman look good. It doesn't work the other way around.

I think the worst part was investing in Alexander and Breeland last year. Took a year of development from Dantzler and Boyd.

Draft 3-4 and go from there. Peterson may be back and New Def Cord may have influence on a couple of FA; some decent players out there yet:

CB Stephon Gilmore 31
CB Bryce Callahan 30 (slot)
CB Patrick Peterson 31
CB K’Waun Williams (slot)
CB Kyle Fuller 30
CB Mike Hughes 25
CB Kevin King 26
CB Chandon Sullivan 25
S Jayron Kearse 28
S Terrell Edmunds 25
S Ronnie Harrison 24
S Deshon Elliot 24
C JC Tretter 31
C Nick Martin 28
G/T Billy Turner 30
G Will Hernandez 26

Nice. Slide free agents sideways into the draft thread since the’ve been quarantined like a bad variant on the sterile FA thread.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/21/2022 9:45:56 AM

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To Appease Tom:

1st Round CB:
1. DEREK STINGLEY JR., LSU
BIG BOARD RANK: 3
This ranking is banking a lot on what Stingley put on tape a long time ago, but it's not as if that talent went anywhere. He has allowed only a 41.1% completion percentage for his career and has been starting since his freshman year.

2. TRENT MCDUFFIE, WASHINGTON
BIG BOARD RANK: 8
Outside of length, McDuffie has everything you could want from a high-end cornerback. At only 5-foot-11, McDuffie plays consistently bigger than his listed size. He's allowed only 16 catches from 36 targets for 111 yards with no scores and five pass breakups.

3. AHMAD “SAUCE” GARDNER, CINCINNATI
BIG BOARD RANK: 9
Gardner never allowed a single touchdown in his career despite starting since he was a true freshman. In 2021, he took his game to another level, allowing only 131 yards in 14 games.

4. ANDREW BOOTH JR., CLEMSON
BIG BOARD RANK: 27
Booth has some of the best feet in the draft class, but he got exposed a tad too often for our liking. He gave up 29 catches from 46 targets for 312 yards in his first full year as a starter.

5. KAIIR ELAM, FLORIDA
BIG BOARD RANK: 29
Elam is a long, physical corner who shut down some of the SEC's best. Despite seven penalties, Elam still only allowed 19 catches from 36 targets for 191 yards last season.

6. JALEN PITRE, BAYLOR
BIG BOARD RANK: 30
Pitre was a massive reason for the Bears' defensive success in 2021. He led all defensive backs with 47 stops on the season while playing slot corner in Dave Aranda's defense.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/21/2022 9:46:55 AM

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1st Round Edge:

1. AIDAN HUTCHINSON, MICHIGAN
BIG BOARD RANK: 1
The highest-graded edge defender in college football, Hutchinson has multiple ways to win with his blend of quicks and power. He’s a complete edge defender who excels against both the run and the pass.

2. KAYVON THIBODEAUX, OREGON
BIG BOARD RANK: 4
Thibodeaux has an elite first step combined with an ideal frame for the position. While he lacks refinement, that combination still led to a 91.5 PFF pass-rushing grade in 2021.

3. GEORGE KARLAFTIS, PURDUE
BIG BOARD RANK: 10
Karlaftis is a versatile iron man who can do almost anything a team could ask of him. He played at least 49 snaps in all but one game this past season and finished with a 90.6 PFF pass-rushing grade.

4. TRAVON WALKER, GEORGIA
BIG BOARD RANK: 14
Walker is an elite physical specimen for a 6-foot-5, 275-pounder who even dropped into coverage this season and managed a pass breakup. He's still figuring out how to rush the passer, but you can't teach what he has.

5. DAVID OJABO, MICHIGAN
BIG BOARD RANK: 24
Ojabo had played only 26 career snaps before 2021, but he made his presence felt in a big way this season, earning an 86.9 pass-rushing grade on 300 pass-rushing snaps. Given his physical tools, the Michigan product is still only scratching the surface of his potential.

6. JERMAINE JOHNSON, FLORIDA STATE
BIG BOARD RANK: 26
Due to how well Johnson performed at the Senior Bowl, he's unlikely to be a non-factor in the league. Moreover, he's one of the best edge-setters in the class with 23 run stops and 14 sacks in 2021.

7. BOYE MAFE, MINNESOTA
BIG BOARD RANK: 34
Mafe was a massive riser after he earned the highest pass-rushing grade among edge defenders during the Senior Bowl practices. He's an ascending player who possesses one of the best get-offs in the class.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/21/2022 10:23:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

1st Round Edge:

1. AIDAN HUTCHINSON, MICHIGAN
BIG BOARD RANK: 1
The highest-graded edge defender in college football, Hutchinson has multiple ways to win with his blend of quicks and power. He’s a complete edge defender who excels against both the run and the pass.

2. KAYVON THIBODEAUX, OREGON
BIG BOARD RANK: 4
Thibodeaux has an elite first step combined with an ideal frame for the position. While he lacks refinement, that combination still led to a 91.5 PFF pass-rushing grade in 2021.

3. GEORGE KARLAFTIS, PURDUE
BIG BOARD RANK: 10
Karlaftis is a versatile iron man who can do almost anything a team could ask of him. He played at least 49 snaps in all but one game this past season and finished with a 90.6 PFF pass-rushing grade.

4. TRAVON WALKER, GEORGIA
BIG BOARD RANK: 14
Walker is an elite physical specimen for a 6-foot-5, 275-pounder who even dropped into coverage this season and managed a pass breakup. He's still figuring out how to rush the passer, but you can't teach what he has.

5. DAVID OJABO, MICHIGAN
BIG BOARD RANK: 24
Ojabo had played only 26 career snaps before 2021, but he made his presence felt in a big way this season, earning an 86.9 pass-rushing grade on 300 pass-rushing snaps. Given his physical tools, the Michigan product is still only scratching the surface of his potential.

6. JERMAINE JOHNSON, FLORIDA STATE
BIG BOARD RANK: 26
Due to how well Johnson performed at the Senior Bowl, he's unlikely to be a non-factor in the league. Moreover, he's one of the best edge-setters in the class with 23 run stops and 14 sacks in 2021.

7. BOYE MAFE, MINNESOTA
BIG BOARD RANK: 34
Mafe was a massive riser after he earned the highest pass-rushing grade among edge defenders during the Senior Bowl practices. He's an ascending player who possesses one of the best get-offs in the class.

I just read that Ojabo tore his Achilles tendon during his pro day workout. That sucks for him.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/21/2022 10:31:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

You gotta have corners. If you don't, you aren't stopping anyone in the year 2022.

You can have all of the defensive linemen you want. If you can't cover, you're dead. A great corner will make an average defensive lineman look good. It doesn't work the other way around.

This offseason is so … comatose … I almost appreciate you trying to stir it up.

Two things you gotta have. Corners on defense and a quarterback that can run a two-minute offense.

As I see it, we have neither.

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RE: 2022 NFL draft - 3/21/2022 12:24:08 PM

Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

You gotta have corners. If you don't, you aren't stopping anyone in the year 2022.

You can have all of the defensive linemen you want. If you can't cover, you're dead. A great corner will make an average defensive lineman look good. It doesn't work the other way around.

I think the worst part was investing in Alexander and Breeland last year. Took a year of development from Dantzler and Boyd.

Draft 3-4 and go from there. Peterson may be back and New Def Cord may have influence on a couple of FA; some decent players out there yet:

CB Stephon Gilmore 31
CB Bryce Callahan 30 (slot)
CB Patrick Peterson 31
CB K’Waun Williams (slot)
CB Kyle Fuller 30
CB Mike Hughes 25
CB Kevin King 26
CB Chandon Sullivan 25
S Jayron Kearse 28
S Terrell Edmunds 25
S Ronnie Harrison 24
S Deshon Elliot 24
C JC Tretter 31
C Nick Martin 28
G/T Billy Turner 30
G Will Hernandez 26

Nice. Slide free agents sideways into the draft thread since the’ve been quarantined like a bad variant on the sterile FA thread.