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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I’ll say this, zed is a big risk, dh + zed is a huge risk …

if it backfires, at least we were gambling to be good. thank you.

I also like the GM’s focus on D in spite of the HC’s role.

What do you think of the depth there? Willikes, Jones, Robinson, and Wonnum.

I think James Lynch might thrive in the 3-4. He may be the third starter on the DL.

None of those guys have a 3-4 role although Lynch maybe looks the part.

Here is the 2006 Patriots roster with a 3-4: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/2006_roster.htm

The roster contains the likes of Vince Wilfork, Richard Seymour, and Ty Warren on the DL. Junior Seau and Teddy Bruschi as ILBs with size and power.

Phillips and our ILBs will get trucked.

Robinson and Wonnum are definitely OLB in the 3-4.

Willikes and Jones might be asked to lose or gain weight to find a role. I hope Willikes finds a role. The guy hustles and is relentless.


Right now I would say our starters would be Philips and Watts at DE, Tomlinson at NT, OLBs Hunter and Smith, ILB Hicks and Kendricks

Normally you would only have 1 of those guys (34 OLB) on the field at a time. Doesn't smell right.

So you'd have 3 ILBs in a 3-4?

You don't normally have 2 "hand in the dirt" type DEs on the field at a time as OLBs in a 3-4. That's like fielding a "hand in the dirt" type DE as one of ypur 3 LBers in a 4-3.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I’ll say this, zed is a big risk, dh + zed is a huge risk …

if it backfires, at least we were gambling to be good. thank you.

I also like the GM’s focus on D in spite of the HC’s role.

What do you think of the depth there? Willikes, Jones, Robinson, and Wonnum.

I think James Lynch might thrive in the 3-4. He may be the third starter on the DL.

None of those guys have a 3-4 role although Lynch maybe looks the part.

Here is the 2006 Patriots roster with a 3-4: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/2006_roster.htm

The roster contains the likes of Vince Wilfork, Richard Seymour, and Ty Warren on the DL. Junior Seau and Teddy Bruschi as ILBs with size and power.

Phillips and our ILBs will get trucked.

Robinson and Wonnum are definitely OLB in the 3-4.

Willikes and Jones might be asked to lose or gain weight to find a role. I hope Willikes finds a role. The guy hustles and is relentless.


Right now I would say our starters would be Philips and Watts at DE, Tomlinson at NT, OLBs Hunter and Smith, ILB Hicks and Kendricks

Normally you would only have 1 of those guys (34 OLB) on the field at a time. Doesn't smell right.

So you'd have 3 ILBs in a 3-4?

You don't normally have 2 "hand in the dirt" type DEs on the field at a time as OLBs in a 3-4. That's like fielding a "hand in the dirt" type DE as one of ypur 3 LBers in a 4-3.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Signing Zed Smith apparently fired up Hunter so much he is working on a new contract extension. Could free up enough for a cb and a guard.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Looking like their first choice is Bates. 2nd is Ereck Flowers. Flowers played LG last year for Wash.

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Signing Zed Smith apparently fired up Hunter so much he is working on a new contract extension. Could free up enough for a cb and a guard.

I think we should play hunter for a season before going beyond where we are already....

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I’ll say this, zed is a big risk, dh + zed is a huge risk …

if it backfires, at least we were gambling to be good. thank you.

I also like the GM’s focus on D in spite of the HC’s role.

What do you think of the depth there? Willikes, Jones, Robinson, and Wonnum.

I think James Lynch might thrive in the 3-4. He may be the third starter on the DL.

None of those guys have a 3-4 role although Lynch maybe looks the part.

Here is the 2006 Patriots roster with a 3-4: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/2006_roster.htm

The roster contains the likes of Vince Wilfork, Richard Seymour, and Ty Warren on the DL. Junior Seau and Teddy Bruschi as ILBs with size and power.

Phillips and our ILBs will get trucked.

Robinson and Wonnum are definitely OLB in the 3-4.

Willikes and Jones might be asked to lose or gain weight to find a role. I hope Willikes finds a role. The guy hustles and is relentless.


Right now I would say our starters would be Philips and Watts at DE, Tomlinson at NT, OLBs Hunter and Smith, ILB Hicks and Kendricks

Normally you would only have 1 of those guys (34 OLB) on the field at a time. Doesn't smell right.

So you'd have 3 ILBs in a 3-4?

You don't normally have 2 "hand in the dirt" type DEs on the field at a time as OLBs in a 3-4. That's like fielding a "hand in the dirt" type DE as one of ypur 3 LBers in a 4-3.

Both guys are ferocious pass rushers, but both are also very good against the run. They're kind of exactly what you want at OLB. It's a lot easier to shift your blocking if you know which guy is coming on every snap.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I’ll say this, zed is a big risk, dh + zed is a huge risk …

if it backfires, at least we were gambling to be good. thank you.

I also like the GM’s focus on D in spite of the HC’s role.

What do you think of the depth there? Willikes, Jones, Robinson, and Wonnum.

I think James Lynch might thrive in the 3-4. He may be the third starter on the DL.

None of those guys have a 3-4 role although Lynch maybe looks the part.

Here is the 2006 Patriots roster with a 3-4: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/2006_roster.htm

The roster contains the likes of Vince Wilfork, Richard Seymour, and Ty Warren on the DL. Junior Seau and Teddy Bruschi as ILBs with size and power.

Phillips and our ILBs will get trucked.

Robinson and Wonnum are definitely OLB in the 3-4.

Willikes and Jones might be asked to lose or gain weight to find a role. I hope Willikes finds a role. The guy hustles and is relentless.


Right now I would say our starters would be Philips and Watts at DE, Tomlinson at NT, OLBs Hunter and Smith, ILB Hicks and Kendricks

Normally you would only have 1 of those guys (34 OLB) on the field at a time. Doesn't smell right.

So you'd have 3 ILBs in a 3-4?

You don't normally have 2 "hand in the dirt" type DEs on the field at a time as OLBs in a 3-4. That's like fielding a "hand in the dirt" type DE as one of ypur 3 LBers in a 4-3.

Both guys are ferocious pass rushers, but both are also very good against the run. They're kind of exactly what you want at OLB. It's a lot easier to shift your blocking if you know which guy is coming on every snap.

In passing situations (which most plays are nowadays), you are going to have 5 non pass defenders on the field? OLB/DE/NT/DE/OLB? Normally on pass plays you drop an OLB in favor of an additional DB. I'm wondering if the plan is to have one of these guys (probably Hunter) line up as one of our DEs.

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Signing Zed Smith apparently fired up Hunter so much he is working on a new contract extension. Could free up enough for a cb and a guard.

I think we should play hunter for a season before going beyond where we are already....

Why? He's established his value. He was on fire to start the season. Clearly the neck didn't bother him. A pectoral injury isn't going to have a long term impact.

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Let's find some $ for a guard and CB and call this FA a success.

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Looking like their first choice is Bates. 2nd is Ereck Flowers. Flowers played LG last year for Wash.

Just saw a note that says Bates has taken the Bears offer. Flowers is intriguing. Surprise cut by WA. Graded at 72 last year per PFF and still only 27 years old.

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CB coming in for a visit this Friday.

Chandon Sullivan(Packers)

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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I’ll say this, zed is a big risk, dh + zed is a huge risk …

if it backfires, at least we were gambling to be good. thank you.

I also like the GM’s focus on D in spite of the HC’s role.

What do you think of the depth there? Willikes, Jones, Robinson, and Wonnum.

I think James Lynch might thrive in the 3-4. He may be the third starter on the DL.

None of those guys have a 3-4 role although Lynch maybe looks the part.

Here is the 2006 Patriots roster with a 3-4: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/2006_roster.htm

The roster contains the likes of Vince Wilfork, Richard Seymour, and Ty Warren on the DL. Junior Seau and Teddy Bruschi as ILBs with size and power.

Phillips and our ILBs will get trucked.

Robinson and Wonnum are definitely OLB in the 3-4.

Willikes and Jones might be asked to lose or gain weight to find a role. I hope Willikes finds a role. The guy hustles and is relentless.


Right now I would say our starters would be Philips and Watts at DE, Tomlinson at NT, OLBs Hunter and Smith, ILB Hicks and Kendricks

Normally you would only have 1 of those guys (34 OLB) on the field at a time. Doesn't smell right.

So you'd have 3 ILBs in a 3-4?

You don't normally have 2 "hand in the dirt" type DEs on the field at a time as OLBs in a 3-4. That's like fielding a "hand in the dirt" type DE as one of ypur 3 LBers in a 4-3.

Both guys are ferocious pass rushers, but both are also very good against the run. They're kind of exactly what you want at OLB. It's a lot easier to shift your blocking if you know which guy is coming on every snap.

In passing situations (which most plays are nowadays), you are going to have 5 non pass defenders on the field? OLB/DE/NT/DE/OLB? Normally on pass plays you drop an OLB in favor of an additional DB. I'm wondering if the plan is to have one of these guys (probably Hunter) line up as one of our DEs.

in nickel a 3-4 goes to 4 d-linemen, 2 lb's and 5 db's....

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many agree that there's a $6.2mm cap hit this season, but spotrac has it at $3.2, with a $6.4mm dead cap...we can cut him after this season with $3mm dead money, or keep him with a $14mm 2023 cap hit....



Nick Olson@NickOlsonNFL
Full terms of Za'Darius Smith's contract here. Smith will carry just a $6.2M cap hit this year.

Very team friendly, with high per game roster bonuses (that don't get paid if Smith misses games) and very limited guarantees — Smith can be cut after this year and still save $15M.

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many agree that there's a $6.2mm cap hit this season, but spotrac has it at $3.2, with a $6.4mm dead cap...we can cut him after this season with $3mm dead money, or keep him with a $14mm 2023 cap hit....



Nick Olson@NickOlsonNFL
Full terms of Za'Darius Smith's contract here. Smith will carry just a $6.2M cap hit this year.

Very team friendly, with high per game roster bonuses (that don't get paid if Smith misses games) and very limited guarantees — Smith can be cut after this year and still save $15M.

Good Job KAM

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CB coming in for a visit this Friday.

Chandon Sullivan(Packers)

10th ranked slot last year. Mac was 35th