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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 10:02:24 AM

Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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we needed a leader on the field and didn't have one....

What a bunch of shit!

My apologies for coming off too strong with my response.

I don't agree but I could have just said why don't ... sorry

Weird not one post about the defense needing a leader to step up on a 30th ranked defense. 0.0% heat on Zed, Hunter, PP, Kendricks and Harry for losses last year even though it was obviously a coaching issue prior to KOC on both sides of the ball...but when the team loses games it is the QBs fault and it his leadership to blame....weird crowd around here.

FYI as an example Harry didn't take the shot either and believes in God...he went to Notre Dame in fact.

We are talking about football right? NFL football?

If it were the water polo vikings, you could argue about the horses slipping on the bottom of the pool … but in football, the qb has a slightly bigger impact than a safety.

You know exactly what is being said. Shouldn't be 1000 to 1 posts and would you be jumping on Dobbs last year for instance (because the same thing would have happened with a 30th ranked defense no matter the qb).

Apparently Kirk is to blame for the defense also in 2022 and prior years....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 10:17:56 AM

Ricky J

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Denver is -2.5 (-132) favorite.

Would they be the favorite without beating Buf? I mean, with MN being 5-0 in the last 5 and all. Without it being spoken it is similar to last year in that I think no one is "fooled" by the winning streak and have really no confidence in MM. Hard to rag on MN right now, though, with the Dobbs story being even bigger than that girl that goes to KC games.

Keep it rolling Vikings!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 11:37:16 AM

David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

Denver is -2.5 (-132) favorite.

Would they be the favorite without beating Buf? I mean, with MN being 5-0 in the last 5 and all. Without it being spoken it is similar to last year in that I think no one is "fooled" by the winning streak and have really no confidence in MM. Hard to rag on MN right now, though, with the Dobbs story being even bigger than that girl that goes to KC games.

Keep it rolling Vikings!

Maybe. They did blow out the Chiefs in the previous game. Held Mahomes to 0 Tds and 2 INTs/

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 11:40:42 AM

David Levine

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Alec Lewis is a terrific writer and its pieces like this that make an Athletic subscription worth it.

Josh Dobbs’ rise to NFL prominence is hard to believe — unless you know him

https://theathletic.com/5069000/2023/11/17/josh-dobbs-vikings-tennessee-nfl/?source=targeted_email&campaign=8323710

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 11:48:41 AM

Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

we needed a leader on the field and didn't have one....

What a bunch of shit!

My apologies for coming off too strong with my response.

I don't agree but I could have just said why don't ... sorry

Weird not one post about the defense needing a leader to step up on a 30th ranked defense. 0.0% heat on Zed, Hunter, PP, Kendricks and Harry for losses last year even though it was obviously a coaching issue prior to KOC on both sides of the ball...but when the team loses games it is the QBs fault and it his leadership to blame....weird crowd around here.

FYI as an example Harry didn't take the shot either and believes in God...he went to Notre Dame in fact.

We are talking about football right? NFL football?

If it were the water polo vikings, you could argue about the horses slipping on the bottom of the pool … but in football, the qb has a slightly bigger impact than a safety.

You know exactly what is being said. Shouldn't be 1000 to 1 posts and would you be jumping on Dobbs last year for instance (because the same thing would have happened with a 30th ranked defense no matter the qb).

Apparently Kirk is to blame for the defense also in 2022 and prior years....

You are trying to conjure up a meaningless controversy over something that is ancient history. Beating a dead horse.

Nobody has ever blamed Kirk for our bad defenses or the top ten defenses that he started with here.

It doesn’t matter. Nobody cares.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 12:32:20 PM

Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

we needed a leader on the field and didn't have one....

What a bunch of shit!

My apologies for coming off too strong with my response.

I don't agree but I could have just said why don't ... sorry

Weird not one post about the defense needing a leader to step up on a 30th ranked defense. 0.0% heat on Zed, Hunter, PP, Kendricks and Harry for losses last year even though it was obviously a coaching issue prior to KOC on both sides of the ball...but when the team loses games it is the QBs fault and it his leadership to blame....weird crowd around here.

FYI as an example Harry didn't take the shot either and believes in God...he went to Notre Dame in fact.

We are talking about football right? NFL football?

If it were the water polo vikings, you could argue about the horses slipping on the bottom of the pool … but in football, the qb has a slightly bigger impact than a safety.

You know exactly what is being said. Shouldn't be 1000 to 1 posts and would you be jumping on Dobbs last year for instance (because the same thing would have happened with a 30th ranked defense no matter the qb).

Apparently Kirk is to blame for the defense also in 2022 and prior years....

You are trying to conjure up a meaningless controversy over something that is ancient history. Beating a dead horse.

Nobody has ever blamed Kirk for our bad defenses or the top ten defenses that he started with here.

It doesn’t matter. Nobody cares.

When you still feel the pain from being butt-hurt from Cousins' plight, what better post to lead off the day with than one ragging on posters about some new obscure, and yes meaningless, angle.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 12:36:49 PM

Bill Johanesen

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The two posters who shall not be named.
The QB who shall not be named.

TalkVikes life is good

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 12:57:13 PM

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The two posters who shall not be named.
The QB who shall not be named.

TalkVikes life is good

Talkvikes could be used as a case study in so many ways - as I'm sure any message board could. Talkvikes though, in particular, would be a treasure trove.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 1:14:43 PM

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The study of personal bias ...

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 1:15:00 PM

Ricky J

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-fyi, I'm not butt hurt in any way. You don't know me at all if that's where you think im coming from

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 1:15:13 PM

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The fn dude is gone after this season…

It’s been proven that the players and coaches can execute and win WITHOUT paying 2 million dollars a game for what is essentially shit for brains leadership….

We have an actual smart guy playing the exact same position as that useless ****ng was playing, without some of the better offensive players, due to injury.. and lo and behold, Mr. “nobody but some journeyman, bounching around the league” Dobbs, has salvaged the season and made countless fans step back from the “ ****ng it let’s just tank the season ledge”

What’s going on here is that the STANS, can’t and won’t admit that every stat and excuse and metric they were using to pillow hump KFC as the best QB we could have for the money, and under the circumstances, for 6 fn years …

WERE DEAD WRONG

and can’t stomach the proof that plays out every succeeding week that thay were living in a fd up blind reality, of making excuses for a “ nice guy” who is a shitty journeyman Quarterback, raping every team he goes to for “ Christian Money”..

FTFH.

Not since Les Steckle got fired, red McCoombs sold this team, and Butt Fart left forever, have I been as happy as I am now that we have a BETTER, MOBILE QB, leading the team and not moving his lips to memories play calls.

KFC butt hurt Stan’s can whine all day long..

I need a good laugh at the expense of fools.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 1:18:27 PM

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Denver is -2.5 (-132) favorite.

Would they be the favorite without beating Buf? I mean, with MN being 5-0 in the last 5 and all. Without it being spoken it is similar to last year in that I think no one is "fooled" by the winning streak and have really no confidence in MM. Hard to rag on MN right now, though, with the Dobbs story being even bigger than that girl that goes to KC games.

Keep it rolling Vikings!

Maybe. They did blow out the Chiefs in the previous game. Held Mahomes to 0 Tds and 2 INTs/

Right. Plus 3 pts for the home game.
Not sure why NO would be favored in MN, though

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 2:01:20 PM

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Denver is -2.5 (-132) favorite.

Would they be the favorite without beating Buf? I mean, with MN being 5-0 in the last 5 and all. Without it being spoken it is similar to last year in that I think no one is "fooled" by the winning streak and have really no confidence in MM. Hard to rag on MN right now, though, with the Dobbs story being even bigger than that girl that goes to KC games.

Keep it rolling Vikings!

Don't like the Vikings chances, Denver playing better, at Denver, and and some point the win streak has to end.

I hope I am wrong. Their coach is a douche and Wilson seems fake as hell to me.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 2:09:21 PM

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The study of personal bias ...

Which would apply to any and every fan site … bias being the very essance of a fan.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 2:28:52 PM

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Denver is -2.5 (-132) favorite.

Would they be the favorite without beating Buf? I mean, with MN being 5-0 in the last 5 and all. Without it being spoken it is similar to last year in that I think no one is "fooled" by the winning streak and have really no confidence in MM. Hard to rag on MN right now, though, with the Dobbs story being even bigger than that girl that goes to KC games.

Keep it rolling Vikings!

Don't like the Vikings chances, Denver playing better, at Denver, and and some point the win streak has to end.

I hope I am wrong. Their coach is a douche and Wilson seems fake as hell to me.

They are favored by less than a FG. Just being a home team gives them 3 points in their favor most of the time.

I am slightly concerned about this one. But I so want that douchebag Payton to lose in perpetuity.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 3:12:11 PM

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All the ways we’ve tried and came up short why not the Cinderella story?

It’s a weird year, there’s not a lot of power houses.

Anyone have any “one time” wishes they haven’t used yet?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 3:37:19 PM

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Just realized the Vikings have Cinncy on the schedule.

At least the game got easier.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 4:21:48 PM

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With the injury to Burrow, that makes the game at Denver and the game at Detroit the 2 most difficult games left on the schedule.

I think the game at Denver might be very difficult because of the loss of Hicks. It will probably take some time for Barr get up to speed, and even then, the Vikings will probably still be missing Hicks.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 4:51:13 PM

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-fyi, I'm not butt hurt in any way. You don't know me at all if that's where you think im coming from

Thought it was obvious the post was referring to someone else.

< Message edited by Bill Johanesen -- 11/17/2023 5:06:23 PM >

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 5:01:03 PM

Bill Johanesen

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Just realized the Vikings have Cinncy on the schedule.

At least the game got easier.

Playing yet another backup QB. The season is starting to have a 2022-ish ring to it.

In general, beating a backup - especially one coming off the bench during the game - counts as a throwaway game and makes it difficult to assess the winner.

Of course there is always the backup v backup games, in which case turn Dobbs loose!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 5:26:14 PM

Bill Johanesen

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KC and Philly playing Monday night and both coming off bye weeks.

So many variables to the schedule. There have been instances of teams playing on the road at night having to play a team coming off the bye. Maybe that's the best they could do. But things like playing @GB in Dec for so many years makes one wonder.

In this case, I don't think it's coincidental but am good with the equality.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 5:54:41 PM

Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

-fyi, I'm not butt hurt in any way. You don't know me at all if that's where you think im coming from

Thought it was obvious the post was referring to someone else.

Oh!
Sorry!
Im in a roll these last couple days
-stupid cousins ;)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 6:22:55 PM

David Levine

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Vikings PR is having a lot of fun these days.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 7:49:41 PM

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Vikings PR is having a lot of fun these days.

Awesome. I think we're going to roll through the donkeys on Sunday.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/17/2023 7:59:37 PM

bongbong

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

The fn dude is gone after this season…

It’s been proven that the players and coaches can execute and win WITHOUT paying 2 million dollars a game for what is essentially shit for brains leadership….

We have an actual smart guy playing the exact same position as that useless ****ng was playing, without some of the better offensive players, due to injury.. and lo and behold, Mr. “nobody but some journeyman, bounching around the league” Dobbs, has salvaged the season and made countless fans step back from the “ ****ng it let’s just tank the season ledge”

What’s going on here is that the STANS, can’t and won’t admit that every stat and excuse and metric they were using to pillow hump KFC as the best QB we could have for the money, and under the circumstances, for 6 fn years …

WERE DEAD WRONG

and can’t stomach the proof that plays out every succeeding week that thay were living in a fd up blind reality, of making excuses for a “ nice guy” who is a shitty journeyman Quarterback, raping every team he goes to for “ Christian Money”..

FTFH.

Not since Les Steckle got fired, red McCoombs sold this team, and Butt Fart left forever, have I been as happy as I am now that we have a BETTER, MOBILE QB, leading the team and not moving his lips to memories play calls.

KFC butt hurt Stan’s can whine all day long..

I need a good laugh at the expense of fools.

Nice rant, Dano, thanks for the laughs! (We're mostly on the same page here.)

JJ's situation is somewhat similar in that how valuable is he if we 5-and-0 without him? Is that a random quirk or is it something to actually consider before financially crowning him? I can't decide on that, but what team has won it all with a WR as highest paid player (by a bit)?

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