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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/27/2023 11:08:04 PM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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Typical Vikings and their conservative play calling and zone defense when they need a stop. Doesn't matter who is coaching this team. We get one first down we win the game. Idiot calls two runs and a stupid WR screen...and then in post game blames the INT's. Fact is they had a chance to win and KOC blew it. And JJ should have been playing. Seven weeks for a hamstring? If the delay came from Jefferson they need to just get rid of him...selfish player. If it came from the Vikings they are just dumb. They can't even get tanking right...they will finish 8-9 or 9-8 and draft the fifth best QB in the draft.

But, I think you can get the fifth QB taken and still come away with a QBOTF.

Do I trust KAM and KOC to find that guy? Not sure.

KOC would probably ruin the guy. We don't want killers. We want turtlers!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/27/2023 11:09:57 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/27/2023 11:14:23 PM   
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(2.0) Mannion the minion..

(2.5) Josh Dobbs second game as a Viking..
( 2.5.1) Josh Dobbs now…
( 2.5.199) probably Hall…
(2.5.2) whoever KOC gets to “coach up” next…

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/27/2023 11:16:09 PM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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Wow. Randy nails it here, 100%

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Dstb-U4ug&t=310s

Exactly. People think KOC is gonna make some magical transformation and sprout wings? He is who he is.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/27/2023 11:18:01 PM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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No they will draft the worst best worst QB in the draft as KOCQBOTF and let KOC turn him into KFC 2.5.2

(2.0) Mannion the minion..

(2.5) Josh Dobbs second game as a Viking..
( 2.5.1) Josh Dobbs now…
( 2.5.199) probably Hall…
(2.5.2) whoever KOC gets to “coach up” next…

God help us. KOC getting "his guy". When will that be? This team is doomed for the foreseeable future.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/27/2023 11:19:21 PM   
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Wow. Randy nails it here, 100%

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Dstb-U4ug&t=310s

Good Stuff.

Minnesota Press and KFAN will give KOC a pass though. It's good for business to buddy up to the coach.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/27/2023 11:20:43 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/27/2023 11:28:23 PM   
Mark Anderson

 

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Wow. Randy nails it here, 100%

Coward

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Dstb-U4ug&t=310s

Exactly. People think KOC is gonna make some magical transformation and sprout wings? He is who he is.

4th and 7 to start the 3rd quarter and we go for it.

There really isn't a method to his madness.

We are on our 3rd QB. Top 3 WR in the game out for 7 games. We aren't on the level of the Top 3 teams in our conference. Just play to win the game. No one will fault you if it doesn't work. Just try to put a game away.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 12:04:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Run up the middle, no gain
Run RT, 1 yard
Pass to BP, -1
Punt

Give the ball back with 2:30 to go up 1.

Lawd!

There's gotta be a series of plays out there somewhere with a higher probability of gaining a first down.

Those are hope plays. Hope we gain some yards but if we dont we've burned up there TOs
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 12:10:36 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 12:15:56 AM   
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Then Flores masterminds the D with the Bears 66 yard, 10 play, no timeouts left, game-winning drive.

That's the worst part.

We know we aren't a shut down defense. We bend and try not to break.

All the more reason for the offense to put the game away.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 12:23:18 AM   
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Then Flores masterminds the D with the Bears 66 yard, 10 play, no timeouts left, game-winning drive.

That's the worst part.

We know we aren't a shut down defense. We bend and try not to break.

All the more reason for the offense to put the game away.


Actually to try... to attempt to put the game away. No foregone conclusions.

That earlier screen to Chandler was maybe the worst executed play in the annals of the NFL.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 12:25:12 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 12:25:46 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 12:28:05 AM   
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We lost to a very bad team, at home, that didn't score a Touchdown. Hey, Marty, even the referees were on our side.


Teams were what, 0-28 not scoring a TD... until tonight. Being on the wrong end of stuff like that is disheartening.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 12:36:39 AM   
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Then Flores masterminds the D with the Bears 66 yard, 10 play, no timeouts left, game-winning drive.

That's the worst part.

We know we aren't a shut down defense. We bend and try not to break.

All the more reason for the offense to put the game away.


Actually to try... to attempt to put the game away. No foregone conclusions.

That earlier screen to Chandler was maybe the worst executed play in the annals of the NFL.

Definitely just try. I'm not saying it would be a gimme.

Denver game: Big pass to TJ, set up at the 12. Run, run, pass

Chicago game: Big turnover, Chicago secondary banged up. We just protected Dobbs well on TD drive. Run, run, 0 yard pass, horrible punt.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 4:38:55 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 4:41:09 AM   
Todd M

 

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Both the GM and coach can go any time.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 4:52:24 AM   
Todd M

 

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 4:57:48 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 5:45:11 AM   
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Everybody but Phil.. sees the reality…it’s not just this board.

We don’t have the personnel to run a slant a screen or just run the football with a third string QB. All that is on KOC?

Watch the Eagles play bully ball and you truly think we can do he same? Main example Powell and Addison have been great this year but if you don’t see their struggles going over the middle due to size. KOC isn’t the issue.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 5:50:40 AM   
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Everybody but Phil.. sees the reality…it’s not just this board.

We don’t have the personnel to run a slant a screen or just run the football with a third string QB. All that is on KOC?

Watch the Eagles play bully ball and you truly think we can do he same? Main example Powell and Addison have been great this year but if you don’t see their struggles going over the middle due to size. KOC isn’t the issue.

I didn't realize running a slant required unicorn players.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 5:53:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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Everybody but Phil.. sees the reality…it’s not just this board.

We don’t have the personnel to run a slant a screen or just run the football with a third string QB. All that is on KOC?

Watch the Eagles play bully ball and you truly think we can do he same? Main example Powell and Addison have been great this year but if you don’t see their struggles going over the middle due to size. KOC isn’t the issue.

I didn't realize running a slant required unicorn players.


Powell is 5’8” Addison 5’11”. Did you watch the one int where Dobbs zipped it high to Addison on a slant. How many more did they run after that?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 5:55:36 AM   
Phil Riewer


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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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Everybody but Phil.. sees the reality…it’s not just this board.

We don’t have the personnel to run a slant a screen or just run the football with a third string QB. All that is on KOC?

Watch the Eagles play bully ball and you truly think we can do he same? Main example Powell and Addison have been great this year but if you don’t see their struggles going over the middle due to size. KOC isn’t the issue.

I didn't realize running a slant required unicorn players.

So weird that you can’t see player’s limitations. They must all be able to do all. No schemes needed

Addison and Powell are as physical as AJ Brown apparently. KOC has schemed around it all season and you turn on him as fast as possible.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/28/2023 6:11:21 AM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

Everybody but Phil.. sees the reality…it’s not just this board.

We don’t have the personnel to run a slant a screen or just run the football with a third string QB. All that is on KOC?

Watch the Eagles play bully ball and you truly think we can do he same? Main example Powell and Addison have been great this year but if you don’t see their struggles going over the middle due to size. KOC isn’t the issue.

I didn't realize running a slant required unicorn players.

So weird that you can’t see player’s limitations. They must all be able to do all. No schemes needed

Addison and Powell are as physical as AJ Brown apparently. KOC has schemed around it all season and you turn on him as fast as possible.

Seriously? Running a slant is as basic as it gets. Surely you're saying KAM and KOC have failed if we have nobody on the roster that can run one.
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