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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Going with Mullens.

You got this Mullens…go deep!

I want to see 12 turnovers.

If we're going to flame out, flame out BIG.

Of all of the available QB's in the league, Mullens is the guy that Kwesi and KOC handpicked as the primary backup to Cousins. I get it that he's a backup but is he really the best that they could find? The odds of your starting QB playing all 17 games is pretty low so having a solid backup seems like something that should be a high priority for an NFL team.

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I'll give you this. If the Bears go on to win three SBs with a strong influence from the Carolina trade, I'll jump to your side of the argument.

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And lets not forget, Dobbs had JJ for about 15 minutes. You can't overlook that. He was literally the only guy that could make a play outside of Addison or Hockenson. Teams did a quick study and found out they needed to contain him to the pocket.

Unfortunately it was Dobbs hanging JJ out to dry that caused the injury...

That's bullshit, and nothing more than a fan being a fan. How do you know JJ wasn't late to the spot? He may have been expected to be on a spot and ended up hanging himself out to dry because he was late to the spot. It was a timing pattern. Any crossing patterns will come with some risk. Brady hung his guys out to dry every game. He was the master of the crossing pattern. His guys played injured, continuously. JJ shut it down because he's a soft diva, IMO.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

And lets not forget, Dobbs had JJ for about 15 minutes. You can't overlook that. He was literally the only guy that could make a play outside of Addison or Hockenson. Teams did a quick study and found out they needed to contain him to the pocket.

Unfortunately it was Dobbs hanging JJ out to dry that caused the injury...

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Going with Mullens.

You got this Mullens…go deep!

I want to see 12 turnovers.

If we're going to flame out, flame out BIG.

Of all of the available QB's in the league, Mullens is the guy that Kwesi and KOC handpicked as the primary backup to Cousins. I get it that he's a backup but is he really the best that they could find? The odds of your starting QB playing all 17 games is pretty low so having a solid backup seems like something that should be a high priority for an NFL team.

Not disagreeing but I give them this out. KC's, despite his warts, has always been a guy that plays a full season. Now, moving forward (if he's the guy they go with), they don't learn their leason......

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I'll give you this. If the Bears go on to win three SBs with a strong influence from the Carolina trade, I'll jump to your side of the argument.

I've no idea if they will win three SB's...nobody does. But, they've done an excellent job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They already have Fields, they have Carolina's No. 1 pick, their own first round pick and more cap space than almost every team in the league.

I've no idea if the Vikings will win three SB's nobody does. But, they've done a very poor job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They have no QB on the roster for next year, they will pick in the teens and will need to be lucky to have a QB drop to them (i.e., no plan) and they have less cap space than almost every team in the league.

As of today, Poles > Kwesi.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

And lets not forget, Dobbs had JJ for about 15 minutes. You can't overlook that. He was literally the only guy that could make a play outside of Addison or Hockenson. Teams did a quick study and found out they needed to contain him to the pocket.

Unfortunately it was Dobbs hanging JJ out to dry that caused the injury...

That's bullshit, and nothing more than a fan being a fan. How do you know JJ wasn't late to the spot? He may have been expected to be on a spot and ended up hanging himself out to dry because he was late to the spot. It was a timing pattern. Any crossing patterns will come with some risk. Brady hung his guys out to dry every game. He was the master of the crossing pattern. His guys played injured, continuously. JJ shut it down because he's a soft diva, IMO.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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Who thinks we are only a rookie QB from being a SB contender next year?

You are all missing the larger point of my 2 year plan. We have many holes. Drafting your favorite QB choice in the 8-12 range this year doesn't do him a bit of good and wastes a year of his rookie scale contract.

I will agree that if the scouts say next year there are no QB's as good as this year's option, go for it, but it's still a bigger rebuild than that.

I believe that you are over thinking this. IF a QB that the team likes is available to them this year, then draft him. Who cares about 1 year IF he's a true difference maker that would be around for 10 to 15 years. The biggest and most important hole on the team is QB. The Vikings have spent decades ignoring that fact or at best have done a very poor job at filling that QB hole.

How many rookie QB's get wrecked because they have to play on a shitty team? I'd much rather fix the roster, then insert a #1 pick QB, and go from there. If you want to take the 4th best QB and put him on a shit team and hope we win, good ****ing luck to you.

4th QB taken doesn’t mean 4th best QB.

In fact I’d guess more often than not the best QB from a draft isn’t the 1st one taken.

Right, because there might be 10 QBs taken in a draft, odds are that the best one of the other 9 is better than the 1st one taken. But more often than not the 1st QB taken from a draft is better than the 4th QB taken, which is the point he's trying to make.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Going with Mullens.

You got this Mullens…go deep!

I want to see 12 turnovers.

If we're going to flame out, flame out BIG.

Of all of the available QB's in the league, Mullens is the guy that Kwesi and KOC handpicked as the primary backup to Cousins. I get it that he's a backup but is he really the best that they could find? The odds of your starting QB playing all 17 games is pretty low so having a solid backup seems like something that should be a high priority for an NFL team.

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I'll give you this. If the Bears go on to win three SBs with a strong influence from the Carolina trade, I'll jump to your side of the argument.

I've no idea if they will win three SB's...nobody does. But, they've done an excellent job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They already have Fields, they have Carolina's No. 1 pick, their own first round pick and more cap space than almost every team in the league.

I've no idea if the Vikings will win three SB's nobody does. But, they've done a very poor job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They have no QB on the roster for next year, they will pick in the teens and will need to be lucky to have a QB drop to them (i.e., no plan) and they have less cap space than almost every team in the league.

As of today, Poles > Kwesi.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

How is that Josh Dobbs decision looking right about now?

Vikings starters in 2023.

Dobbs, 3-2 (had JJ for about 15 minutes total)
Cousins, 4-4
Others, 0-3

You guys were so quick to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Technically Dobbs was 2-2 as a starter. He entered in the 2nd quarter against Atlanta. In the last win that Dobbs started, Mullens came in and got us the only 3 points of the game.

Dobbs first 5 quarters - 55 points / 0 int
Dobbs last 13 quarters - 37 points / 5 int

Two of Dobbs' interceptions were off deflections.

In other words, Dobbs was responsible for about three turnovers in 18 quarters of play. I'll take that any day over what we saw the past three weeks.
Mullens was an absolute disaster. Hall had no business in an NFL game.

And lets not forget, Dobbs had JJ for about 15 minutes. You can't overlook that. He was literally the only guy that could make a play outside of Addison or Hockenson. Teams did a quick study and found out they needed to contain him to the pocket.

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I'll give you this. If the Bears go on to win three SBs with a strong influence from the Carolina trade, I'll jump to your side of the argument.

I've no idea if they will win three SB's...nobody does. But, they've done an excellent job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They already have Fields, they have Carolina's No. 1 pick, their own first round pick and more cap space than almost every team in the league.

I've no idea if the Vikings will win three SB's nobody does. But, they've done a very poor job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They have no QB on the roster for next year, they will pick in the teens and will need to be lucky to have a QB drop to them (i.e., no plan) and they have less cap space than almost every team in the league.

As of today, Poles > Kwesi.

I don't agree.....Kwesi brought in a very good DC......Poles hasn't done as well with coaches---very important part of the puzzle. Also FA that we have brought in have been very good (Murphy, Phillips, Risner). That is part of a successful puzzle if you fix the draft portion---if you remember scouts and coaches tell GMs what who to draft---so there may be more to it than Kwesi selections.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I'll give you this. If the Bears go on to win three SBs with a strong influence from the Carolina trade, I'll jump to your side of the argument.

I've no idea if they will win three SB's...nobody does. But, they've done an excellent job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They already have Fields, they have Carolina's No. 1 pick, their own first round pick and more cap space than almost every team in the league.

I've no idea if the Vikings will win three SB's nobody does. But, they've done a very poor job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They have no QB on the roster for next year, they will pick in the teens and will need to be lucky to have a QB drop to them (i.e., no plan) and they have less cap space than almost every team in the league.

As of today, Poles > Kwesi.

I don't agree.....Kwesi brought in a very good DC......Poles hasn't done as well with coaches---very important part of the puzzle. Also FA that we have brought in have been very good (Murphy, Phillips, Risner). That is part of a successful puzzle if you fix the draft portion---if you remember scouts and coaches tell GMs what who to draft---so there may be more to it than Kwesi selections.

Kwesi is choosing KOC's coaches?

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I'll give you this. If the Bears go on to win three SBs with a strong influence from the Carolina trade, I'll jump to your side of the argument.

I've no idea if they will win three SB's...nobody does. But, they've done an excellent job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They already have Fields, they have Carolina's No. 1 pick, their own first round pick and more cap space than almost every team in the league.

I've no idea if the Vikings will win three SB's nobody does. But, they've done a very poor job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They have no QB on the roster for next year, they will pick in the teens and will need to be lucky to have a QB drop to them (i.e., no plan) and they have less cap space than almost every team in the league.

As of today, Poles > Kwesi.

I don't agree.....Kwesi brought in a very good DC......Poles hasn't done as well with coaches---very important part of the puzzle. Also FA that we have brought in have been very good (Murphy, Phillips, Risner). That is part of a successful puzzle if you fix the draft portion---if you remember scouts and coaches tell GMs what who to draft---so there may be more to it than Kwesi selections.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I'll give you this. If the Bears go on to win three SBs with a strong influence from the Carolina trade, I'll jump to your side of the argument.

I've no idea if they will win three SB's...nobody does. But, they've done an excellent job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They already have Fields, they have Carolina's No. 1 pick, their own first round pick and more cap space than almost every team in the league.

I've no idea if the Vikings will win three SB's nobody does. But, they've done a very poor job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They have no QB on the roster for next year, they will pick in the teens and will need to be lucky to have a QB drop to them (i.e., no plan) and they have less cap space than almost every team in the league.

As of today, Poles > Kwesi.

I don't agree.....Kwesi brought in a very good DC......Poles hasn't done as well with coaches---very important part of the puzzle. Also FA that we have brought in have been very good (Murphy, Phillips, Risner). That is part of a successful puzzle if you fix the draft portion---if you remember scouts and coaches tell GMs what who to draft---so there may be more to it than Kwesi selections.

Kwesi is choosing KOC's coaches?

Would you rather have Reich or KOC? Yes he is involved in it; you don't think Flores makes a little more than the towel guy?

I remember Zimmer's coaching staff versus KOC---you don't see the difference?

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I'll give you this. If the Bears go on to win three SBs with a strong influence from the Carolina trade, I'll jump to your side of the argument.

I've no idea if they will win three SB's...nobody does. But, they've done an excellent job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They already have Fields, they have Carolina's No. 1 pick, their own first round pick and more cap space than almost every team in the league.

I've no idea if the Vikings will win three SB's nobody does. But, they've done a very poor job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They have no QB on the roster for next year, they will pick in the teens and will need to be lucky to have a QB drop to them (i.e., no plan) and they have less cap space than almost every team in the league.

As of today, Poles > Kwesi.

I don't agree.....Kwesi brought in a very good DC......Poles hasn't done as well with coaches---very important part of the puzzle. Also FA that we have brought in have been very good (Murphy, Phillips, Risner). That is part of a successful puzzle if you fix the draft portion---if you remember scouts and coaches tell GMs what who to draft---so there may be more to it than Kwesi selections.

Kwesi is choosing KOC's coaches?

Would you rather have Reich or KOC? Yes he is involved in it; you don't think Flores makes a little more than the towel guy?
I remember Zimmer's coaching staff versus KOC---you don't see the difference?

What are you even talking about?
What does Kwesi have to do with either coaching staff?
Kwesi hired KOC. KOC hired Donatell, then fired him and hired Flores.
Zimmer hired his own coaches. KOC hires his own coaches. The common denominator is not Kwesi.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I'll give you this. If the Bears go on to win three SBs with a strong influence from the Carolina trade, I'll jump to your side of the argument.

I've no idea if they will win three SB's...nobody does. But, they've done an excellent job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They already have Fields, they have Carolina's No. 1 pick, their own first round pick and more cap space than almost every team in the league.

I've no idea if the Vikings will win three SB's nobody does. But, they've done a very poor job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They have no QB on the roster for next year, they will pick in the teens and will need to be lucky to have a QB drop to them (i.e., no plan) and they have less cap space than almost every team in the league.

As of today, Poles > Kwesi.

I don't agree.....Kwesi brought in a very good DC......Poles hasn't done as well with coaches---very important part of the puzzle. Also FA that we have brought in have been very good (Murphy, Phillips, Risner). That is part of a successful puzzle if you fix the draft portion---if you remember scouts and coaches tell GMs what who to draft---so there may be more to it than Kwesi selections.

Kwesi is choosing KOC's coaches?

Would you rather have Reich or KOC? Yes he is involved in it; you don't think Flores makes a little more than the towel guy?
I remember Zimmer's coaching staff versus KOC---you don't see the difference?

What are you even talking about?
What does Kwesi have to do with either coaching staff?
Kwesi hired KOC. KOC hired Donatell, then fired him and hired Flores.
Zimmer hired his own coaches. KOC hires his own coaches. The common denominator is not Kwesi.

Speilman got fired for not communicating with Zimmer....so you think KOC is on the island with his coaches and GM is not involved at all (even with the contracts)....ok. LOL

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I'll give you this. If the Bears go on to win three SBs with a strong influence from the Carolina trade, I'll jump to your side of the argument.

I've no idea if they will win three SB's...nobody does. But, they've done an excellent job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They already have Fields, they have Carolina's No. 1 pick, their own first round pick and more cap space than almost every team in the league.

I've no idea if the Vikings will win three SB's nobody does. But, they've done a very poor job of putting themselves in position to substantially improve. They have no QB on the roster for next year, they will pick in the teens and will need to be lucky to have a QB drop to them (i.e., no plan) and they have less cap space than almost every team in the league.

As of today, Poles > Kwesi.

I don't agree.....Kwesi brought in a very good DC......Poles hasn't done as well with coaches---very important part of the puzzle. Also FA that we have brought in have been very good (Murphy, Phillips, Risner). That is part of a successful puzzle if you fix the draft portion---if you remember scouts and coaches tell GMs what who to draft---so there may be more to it than Kwesi selections.

Kwesi is choosing KOC's coaches?

Would you rather have Reich or KOC? Yes he is involved in it; you don't think Flores makes a little more than the towel guy?
I remember Zimmer's coaching staff versus KOC---you don't see the difference?

What are you even talking about?
What does Kwesi have to do with either coaching staff?
Kwesi hired KOC. KOC hired Donatell, then fired him and hired Flores.
Zimmer hired his own coaches. KOC hires his own coaches. The common denominator is not Kwesi.

Speilman got fired for not communicating with Zimmer....so you think KOC is on the island with his coaches and GM is not involved at all (even with the contracts)....ok. LOL

Then why did Zimmer get fired?

Spielman got fired because the team had no future. Same as Zimmer.

Obviously the front office is involved with all coaches contracts. But they don't pick who the HC hires to work under him.

But fine. If you want to magically give credit to Kwesi for Flores, then he's also responsible for Donatell.

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Yes. I think a 2025 1st rounder and O'Neill gets you up there.

DONE and run to the podium!

It gets you there in a fantasy world.

This scenario was to get to the 4th or 5th pick. From 8th to 10th spot.

Not #1 pick

Ah got it. If they are targeting Penix, O'Neill would be the blind-side protector.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

How is that Josh Dobbs decision looking right about now?

Vikings starters in 2023.

Dobbs, 3-2 (had JJ for about 15 minutes total)
Cousins, 4-4
Others, 0-3

You guys were so quick to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Technically Dobbs was 2-2 as a starter. He entered in the 2nd quarter against Atlanta. In the last win that Dobbs started, Mullens came in and got us the only 3 points of the game.

Dobbs first 5 quarters - 55 points / 0 int
Dobbs last 13 quarters - 37 points / 5 int

Two of Dobbs' interceptions were off deflections.

In other words, Dobbs was responsible for about three turnovers in 18 quarters of play. I'll take that any day over what we saw the past three weeks.
Mullens was an absolute disaster. Hall had no business in an NFL game.

And lets not forget, Dobbs had JJ for about 15 minutes. You can't overlook that. He was literally the only guy that could make a play outside of Addison or Hockenson. Teams did a quick study and found out they needed to contain him to the pocket.

They were not all off deflections and Dobbs got away with a lot of terrible throws. And lets not forget the 6 fumbles. He was absolutely putrid in his last start. There is no disputing Mullens has also been reckless and stupid with the ball with a lot of turnovers.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

How is that Josh Dobbs decision looking right about now?

Vikings starters in 2023.

Dobbs, 3-2 (had JJ for about 15 minutes total)
Cousins, 4-4
Others, 0-3

You guys were so quick to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Technically Dobbs was 2-2 as a starter. He entered in the 2nd quarter against Atlanta. In the last win that Dobbs started, Mullens came in and got us the only 3 points of the game.

Dobbs first 5 quarters - 55 points / 0 int
Dobbs last 13 quarters - 37 points / 5 int

Two of Dobbs' interceptions were off deflections.

In other words, Dobbs was responsible for about three turnovers in 18 quarters of play. I'll take that any day over what we saw the past three weeks.
Mullens was an absolute disaster. Hall had no business in an NFL game.

And lets not forget, Dobbs had JJ for about 15 minutes. You can't overlook that. He was literally the only guy that could make a play outside of Addison or Hockenson. Teams did a quick study and found out they needed to contain him to the pocket.

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Going with Mullens.

You got this Mullens…go deep!

I want to see 12 turnovers.

If we're going to flame out, flame out BIG.

Of all of the available QB's in the league, Mullens is the guy that Kwesi and KOC handpicked as the primary backup to Cousins. I get it that he's a backup but is he really the best that they could find? The odds of your starting QB playing all 17 games is pretty low so having a solid backup seems like something that should be a high priority for an NFL team.

Not disagreeing but I give them this out. KC's, despite his warts, has always been a guy that plays a full season. Now, moving forward (if he's the guy they go with), they don't learn their leason......

That's true, Cousins has been very durable and he's a tough guy. I'll give him that. But, injuries can happen to every player so for me having a solid backupt at the most important position would be a priority.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

How is that Josh Dobbs decision looking right about now?

Vikings starters in 2023.

Dobbs, 3-2 (had JJ for about 15 minutes total)
Cousins, 4-4
Others, 0-3

You guys were so quick to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Technically Dobbs was 2-2 as a starter. He entered in the 2nd quarter against Atlanta. In the last win that Dobbs started, Mullens came in and got us the only 3 points of the game.

Dobbs first 5 quarters - 55 points / 0 int
Dobbs last 13 quarters - 37 points / 5 int

Two of Dobbs' interceptions were off deflections.

In other words, Dobbs was responsible for about three turnovers in 18 quarters of play. I'll take that any day over what we saw the past three weeks.
Mullens was an absolute disaster. Hall had no business in an NFL game.

And lets not forget, Dobbs had JJ for about 15 minutes. You can't overlook that. He was literally the only guy that could make a play outside of Addison or Hockenson. Teams did a quick study and found out they needed to contain him to the pocket.

They were not all off deflections and Dobbs got away with a lot of terrible throws. And lets not forget the 6 fumbles. He was absolutely putrid in his last start. There is no disputing Mullens has also been reckless and stupid with the ball with a lot of turnovers.

I got sucked into Dobbs mania after New Orleans game.

But, teams figured out to keep him in pocket and make him throw accurate passes. KOC didn't do him any favors but there is a reason he has been on 5 or 6 teams.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Going with Mullens.

You got this Mullens…go deep!

I want to see 12 turnovers.

If we're going to flame out, flame out BIG.

Of all of the available QB's in the league, Mullens is the guy that Kwesi and KOC handpicked as the primary backup to Cousins. I get it that he's a backup but is he really the best that they could find? The odds of your starting QB playing all 17 games is pretty low so having a solid backup seems like something that should be a high priority for an NFL team.

Not disagreeing but I give them this out. KC's, despite his warts, has always been a guy that plays a full season. Now, moving forward (if he's the guy they go with), they don't learn their leason......

That's true, Cousins has been very durable and he's a tough guy. I'll give him that. But, injuries can happen to every player so for me having a solid backupt at the most important position would be a priority.

Agree 100%. If he is back and our BU situation is Mullens or worse, KOC/KAM need to go. That would show they are stubborn/stupid or both.