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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Nobody has ever dug themselves out of so many holes in one season than the 2022 Vikings. Which is a beautiful thing. But those holes have to be dug first – the defense was clearly the main culprit ... the offense also limped along plenty in between volcanic eruptions.


Purple Daily did the research and I listened to the podcast a couple days ago so forgive me if my memory is off. If I'm wrong, i'm not making it up and it should be pretty accurate. They said we were 8th in first quarter offense and 1st in the fourth. Our second and third though were mid 20's.

Their conclusion based on quotes from the QB doc from Cousins and KOC:

1. He is very good at scripted plays
2. When it goes off script he's crap and balls up so he 'doesn't cost the team'
3. When he's down in the 4th he has to say 'screw it' and finally loosens up

Offensively, the 3rd quarter scoring was bad. We ended up 22nd, but for much of the season we were horrid.

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/the-2022-minnesota-vikings-have-a-third-quarter-problem

Week 1 vs. GB: Up 17 at halftime, lost third quarter 7-3
Week 2 at PHI: Down 17 at halftime, tied third quarter 0-0
Week 3 vs. DET: Tied at halftime, lost third quarter 10-0
Week 4 at NO: Up 6 at halftime, lost third quarter 7-3
Week 5 vs. CHI: Up 11 at halftime, lost third quarter 9-0
Week 6 at MIA: Up 7 at halftime, tied third quarter 0-0
Week 8 vs. ARI: Up 4 at halftime, won third quarter 14-13
Week 9 at WAS: Up 4 at halftime, lost third quarter 7-0

Excluding ARI, that's six points in eight games.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

2 TD passes, 13 sacks, and a 77.2 passer rating in the 3rd quarter last season. No killer instinct. Just “doesn’t want to screw up”.

https://www.nfl.com/players/kirk-cousins/stats/situational/

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Spielman and Kwesi have doomed the defense as much as the coaching.

Spot on. Both regimes have failed miserably drafting CB's (high picks too) and have completely neglected the dline. SF and Phil (class of the NFC) address the trenches early and often every year in the draft. Meanwhile we haven't spent an early pick on the dline in over a decade (Sharif Floyd 2012). Both regimes seem way more interested in the "sexy" pick vs building the team from the inside out.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Spielman and Kwesi have doomed the defense as much as the coaching.

Spot on. Both regimes have failed miserably drafting CB's (high picks too) and have completely neglected the dline. SF and Phil (class of the NFC) address the trenches early and often every year in the draft. Meanwhile we haven't spent an early pick on the dline in over a decade (Sharif Floyd 2012). Both regimes seem way more interested in the "sexy" pick vs building the team from the inside out.

Kwesi inherited a Spielman mess.

Spielman doled out contracts to Thielen, both Dalvins, and Kendricks that totals 20 million of dead cap for 2023 in addition to Harry. Kwesi is responsible for 3.3 on Zed and the reworked Kirk contracts but he also had to deal with 2022 Dead cap for Barr, Pierce, Rudolph and Gladney totaling 19 million in 2022.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Spielman and Kwesi have doomed the defense as much as the coaching.

Spot on. Both regimes have failed miserably drafting CB's (high picks too) and have completely neglected the dline. SF and Phil (class of the NFC) address the trenches early and often every year in the draft. Meanwhile we haven't spent an early pick on the dline in over a decade (Sharif Floyd 2012). Both regimes seem way more interested in the "sexy" pick vs building the team from the inside out.

Kwesi inherited a Spielman mess.

Spielman doled out contracts to Thielen, both Dalvins, and Kendricks that totals 20 million of dead cap for 2023 in addition to Harry. Kwesi is responsible for 3.3 on Zed and the reworked Kirk contracts but he also had to deal with 2022 Dead cap for Barr, Pierce, Rudolph and Gladney totaling 19 million in 2022.

That's absolutely true. Although for some reason, he extended the mess by a year. And fortunately for Kwesi, Spielman added some decent players on the team to complement his TEs.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Spielman and Kwesi have doomed the defense as much as the coaching.

Spot on. Both regimes have failed miserably drafting CB's (high picks too) and have completely neglected the dline. SF and Phil (class of the NFC) address the trenches early and often every year in the draft. Meanwhile we haven't spent an early pick on the dline in over a decade (Sharif Floyd 2012). Both regimes seem way more interested in the "sexy" pick vs building the team from the inside out.

Kwesi inherited a Spielman mess.

Spielman doled out contracts to Thielen, both Dalvins, and Kendricks that totals 20 million of dead cap for 2023 in addition to Harry. Kwesi is responsible for 3.3 on Zed and the reworked Kirk contracts but he also had to deal with 2022 Dead cap for Barr, Pierce, Rudolph and Gladney totaling 19 million in 2022.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Spielman and Kwesi have doomed the defense as much as the coaching.

Spot on. Both regimes have failed miserably drafting CB's (high picks too) and have completely neglected the dline. SF and Phil (class of the NFC) address the trenches early and often every year in the draft. Meanwhile we haven't spent an early pick on the dline in over a decade (Sharif Floyd 2012). Both regimes seem way more interested in the "sexy" pick vs building the team from the inside out.

Kwesi inherited a Spielman mess.

Spielman doled out contracts to Thielen, both Dalvins, and Kendricks that totals 20 million of dead cap for 2023 in addition to Harry. Kwesi is responsible for 3.3 on Zed and the reworked Kirk contracts but he also had to deal with 2022 Dead cap for Barr, Pierce, Rudolph and Gladney totaling 19 million in 2022.

Was spielman aware that he would not be around after 2021?

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Spielman and Kwesi have doomed the defense as much as the coaching.

Spot on. Both regimes have failed miserably drafting CB's (high picks too) and have completely neglected the dline. SF and Phil (class of the NFC) address the trenches early and often every year in the draft. Meanwhile we haven't spent an early pick on the dline in over a decade (Sharif Floyd 2012). Both regimes seem way more interested in the "sexy" pick vs building the team from the inside out.

Kwesi inherited a Spielman mess.

Spielman doled out contracts to Thielen, both Dalvins, and Kendricks that totals 20 million of dead cap for 2023 in addition to Harry. Kwesi is responsible for 3.3 on Zed and the reworked Kirk contracts but he also had to deal with 2022 Dead cap for Barr, Pierce, Rudolph and Gladney totaling 19 million in 2022.

Was spielman aware that he would not be around after 2021?

Sure seemed he was trying to leave a cluster but I think some of that was Zimmer; even though Zimmer and Spielman didn't get along that was on 3-4 players; that was their combined roster.

Same applies to KOC/Kwesi....where we are in 2 years is all them.....there is still a big pile of stink left from the Zimmer/Spielman era that is hard to transform in a year.

The thing I am worried about now is the rumored jockeying on Jefferson and of course what will happen to Hunter.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Spielman and Kwesi have doomed the defense as much as the coaching.

Spot on. Both regimes have failed miserably drafting CB's (high picks too) and have completely neglected the dline. SF and Phil (class of the NFC) address the trenches early and often every year in the draft. Meanwhile we haven't spent an early pick on the dline in over a decade (Sharif Floyd 2012). Both regimes seem way more interested in the "sexy" pick vs building the team from the inside out.

Kwesi inherited a Spielman mess.

Spielman doled out contracts to Thielen, both Dalvins, and Kendricks that totals 20 million of dead cap for 2023 in addition to Harry. Kwesi is responsible for 3.3 on Zed and the reworked Kirk contracts but he also had to deal with 2022 Dead cap for Barr, Pierce, Rudolph and Gladney totaling 19 million in 2022.

Was spielman aware that he would not be around after 2021?

Sure seemed he was trying to leave a cluster but I think some of that was Zimmer; even though Zimmer and Spielman didn't get along that was on 3-4 players; that was their combined roster.

Same applies to KOC/Kwesi....where we are in 2 years is all them.....there is still a big pile of stink left from the Zimmer/Spielman era that is hard to transform in a year.

The thing I am worried about now is the rumored jockeying on Jefferson and of course what will happen to Hunter.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Spielman and Kwesi have doomed the defense as much as the coaching.

Spot on. Both regimes have failed miserably drafting CB's (high picks too) and have completely neglected the dline. SF and Phil (class of the NFC) address the trenches early and often every year in the draft. Meanwhile we haven't spent an early pick on the dline in over a decade (Sharif Floyd 2012). Both regimes seem way more interested in the "sexy" pick vs building the team from the inside out.

Kwesi inherited a Spielman mess.

Spielman doled out contracts to Thielen, both Dalvins, and Kendricks that totals 20 million of dead cap for 2023 in addition to Harry. Kwesi is responsible for 3.3 on Zed and the reworked Kirk contracts but he also had to deal with 2022 Dead cap for Barr, Pierce, Rudolph and Gladney totaling 19 million in 2022.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Spielman and Kwesi have doomed the defense as much as the coaching.

Spot on. Both regimes have failed miserably drafting CB's (high picks too) and have completely neglected the dline. SF and Phil (class of the NFC) address the trenches early and often every year in the draft. Meanwhile we haven't spent an early pick on the dline in over a decade (Sharif Floyd 2012). Both regimes seem way more interested in the "sexy" pick vs building the team from the inside out.

Kwesi inherited a Spielman mess.

Spielman doled out contracts to Thielen, both Dalvins, and Kendricks that totals 20 million of dead cap for 2023 in addition to Harry. Kwesi is responsible for 3.3 on Zed and the reworked Kirk contracts but he also had to deal with 2022 Dead cap for Barr, Pierce, Rudolph and Gladney totaling 19 million in 2022.

Was spielman aware that he would not be around after 2021?

Sure seemed he was trying to leave a cluster but I think some of that was Zimmer; even though Zimmer and Spielman didn't get along that was on 3-4 players; that was their combined roster.

Same applies to KOC/Kwesi....where we are in 2 years is all them.....there is still a big pile of stink left from the Zimmer/Spielman era that is hard to transform in a year.

The thing I am worried about now is the rumored jockeying on Jefferson and of course what will happen to Hunter.

Spielman's short-termism was to be expected. He knew there was a good chance that if he didn't have a successful 2021 season he was out. The Wilfs could have avoided some of those poor decisions if they had planned better in terms of Spielman's contract, e.g., fired him with two years remaining on his contract.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Vikings Top Draft Pick Reportedly in Some Trouble

SI.com’s Bill Enright tweeted Thursday, “Vikings rookie wide receiver Jordan Addison was charged with reckless driving last night. Was doing 140 MPH in his Lambo. Source: Minnesota State Patrol.”

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Vikings Top Draft Pick Reportedly in Some Trouble

SI.com’s Bill Enright tweeted Thursday, “Vikings rookie wide receiver Jordan Addison was charged with reckless driving last night. Was doing 140 MPH in his Lambo. Source: Minnesota State Patrol.”

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Vikings Top Draft Pick Reportedly in Some Trouble

SI.com’s Bill Enright tweeted Thursday, “Vikings rookie wide receiver Jordan Addison was charged with reckless driving last night. Was doing 140 MPH in his Lambo. Source: Minnesota State Patrol.”

Additionally:

- even though it was on i94 it was in a 55mph

- at 3am

Dude!

https://twitter.com/KSTPSports/status/1682089502884372484?s=20

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Spielman and Kwesi have doomed the defense as much as the coaching.

Spot on. Both regimes have failed miserably drafting CB's (high picks too) and have completely neglected the dline. SF and Phil (class of the NFC) address the trenches early and often every year in the draft. Meanwhile we haven't spent an early pick on the dline in over a decade (Sharif Floyd 2012). Both regimes seem way more interested in the "sexy" pick vs building the team from the inside out.

Kwesi inherited a Spielman mess.

Spielman doled out contracts to Thielen, both Dalvins, and Kendricks that totals 20 million of dead cap for 2023 in addition to Harry. Kwesi is responsible for 3.3 on Zed and the reworked Kirk contracts but he also had to deal with 2022 Dead cap for Barr, Pierce, Rudolph and Gladney totaling 19 million in 2022.

Quite a huge revision on your part. Over the years when posters hammered RS, you sided him time and again. To the point where I asked multiple times if you were his agent. Undeterred, you defended him to no end. Just like you are doing with Kwesi now.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Vikings Top Draft Pick Reportedly in Some Trouble

SI.com’s Bill Enright tweeted Thursday, “Vikings rookie wide receiver Jordan Addison was charged with reckless driving last night. Was doing 140 MPH in his Lambo. Source: Minnesota State Patrol.”

Additionally:

- even though it was on i94 it was in a 55mph

- at 3am

Dude!

https://twitter.com/KSTPSports/status/1682089502884372484?s=20

3AM, but so far I haven't heard anything about alcohol being involved. It could still be coming.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Spielman and Kwesi have doomed the defense as much as the coaching.

Spot on. Both regimes have failed miserably drafting CB's (high picks too) and have completely neglected the dline. SF and Phil (class of the NFC) address the trenches early and often every year in the draft. Meanwhile we haven't spent an early pick on the dline in over a decade (Sharif Floyd 2012). Both regimes seem way more interested in the "sexy" pick vs building the team from the inside out.

Kwesi inherited a Spielman mess.

Spielman doled out contracts to Thielen, both Dalvins, and Kendricks that totals 20 million of dead cap for 2023 in addition to Harry. Kwesi is responsible for 3.3 on Zed and the reworked Kirk contracts but he also had to deal with 2022 Dead cap for Barr, Pierce, Rudolph and Gladney totaling 19 million in 2022.

Quite a huge revision on your part. Over the years when posters hammered RS, you sided him time and again. To the point where I asked multiple times if you were his agent. Undeterred, you defended him to no end. Just like you are doing with Kwesi now.

You can look back....I never was for Rudolphs, Cook, AP, or Barrs contract. The Dead money for Harry, Thielen, Dalvin, etc. is all Spielman. Kwesi had to maneuver to compete with the mess.

I am not all anti Kirk contract like you and others---so not being as negative would make it look like that; there are tons of bad contracts to pin point.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Spielman and Kwesi have doomed the defense as much as the coaching.

Spot on. Both regimes have failed miserably drafting CB's (high picks too) and have completely neglected the dline. SF and Phil (class of the NFC) address the trenches early and often every year in the draft. Meanwhile we haven't spent an early pick on the dline in over a decade (Sharif Floyd 2012). Both regimes seem way more interested in the "sexy" pick vs building the team from the inside out.

Kwesi inherited a Spielman mess.

Spielman doled out contracts to Thielen, both Dalvins, and Kendricks that totals 20 million of dead cap for 2023 in addition to Harry. Kwesi is responsible for 3.3 on Zed and the reworked Kirk contracts but he also had to deal with 2022 Dead cap for Barr, Pierce, Rudolph and Gladney totaling 19 million in 2022.

Quite a huge revision on your part. Over the years when posters hammered RS, you sided him time and again. To the point where I asked multiple times if you were his agent. Undeterred, you defended him to no end. Just like you are doing with Kwesi now.

You can look back....I never was for Rudolphs, Cook, AP, or Barrs contract. The Dead money for Harry, Thielen, Dalvin, etc. is all Spielman. Kwesi had to maneuver to compete with the mess.

I am not all anti Kirk contract like you and others---so not being as negative would make it look like that; there are tons of bad contracts to pin point.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Vikings Top Draft Pick Reportedly in Some Trouble

SI.com’s Bill Enright tweeted Thursday, “Vikings rookie wide receiver Jordan Addison was charged with reckless driving last night. Was doing 140 MPH in his Lambo. Source: Minnesota State Patrol.”

Additionally:

- even though it was on i94 it was in a 55mph

- at 3am

Dude!

https://twitter.com/KSTPSports/status/1682089502884372484?s=20

3AM, but so far I haven't heard anything about alcohol being involved. It could still be coming.

he was not arrested, just cited....

udoh got three citations in a week, one for big-time speeding - all last month....

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Vikings Top Draft Pick Reportedly in Some Trouble

SI.com’s Bill Enright tweeted Thursday, “Vikings rookie wide receiver Jordan Addison was charged with reckless driving last night. Was doing 140 MPH in his Lambo. Source: Minnesota State Patrol.”

Additionally:

- even though it was on i94 it was in a 55mph

- at 3am

Dude!

https://twitter.com/KSTPSports/status/1682089502884372484?s=20

3AM, but so far I haven't heard anything about alcohol being involved. It could still be coming.

he was not arrested, just cited....

udoh got three citations in a week, one for big-time speeding - all last month....

Are you defending him?