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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 9:40:55 AM   
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If you can put together a package that the Bears accept for the #1 pick (maybe it includes JJ), do you take Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, or another QB ?




If we go the route of trading JJ...at all...which I am sure we wont...it will NOT BE IN DIVISION.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 9:43:12 AM   
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If you can put together a package that the Bears accept for the #1 pick (maybe it includes JJ), do you take Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, or another QB ?


Why would you need the #1 pick? The top 5-6 are about the same.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 9:56:59 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 9:59:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		O'Neil played against GB with a broken bone in his foot....thought it was a sprained foot/ankle.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 10:34:29 AM   
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O'Neil played against GB with a broken bone in his foot....thought it was a sprained foot/ankle.

Would of it made a difference if he did know? Probably not.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 10:36:52 AM   
Ricky J


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Ironic he beings this up now, a couple months before the Vikings might move on. Could have locked down a hometown discount deal last offseason if he wanted
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 10:40:20 AM   
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O'Neil played against GB with a broken bone in his foot....thought it was a sprained foot/ankle.

Maybe we need to hire a better medical staff. Or buy an XRay machine
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 10:42:25 AM   
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At the end of the day I'm good with Penix Jr. firing darts to JJ. Plenty of QB-needy teams will make draft night nerve wracking.

Yep. If you need to send the Chargers a 2025 1st rounder to move up, do it.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 10:51:18 AM   
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Tim thinking he's maybe on to something here ...

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Ironic he beings this up now, a couple months before the Vikings might move on. Could have locked down a hometown discount deal last offseason if he wanted



He's only bringing it up now because he was asked about it while cleaning out his locker.

He actually didn't bring it up.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 10:54:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't get to watch as closely as I wanted to but what I did notice is that JJM is exactly what I thought (and others have mentioned about him). Really good athlete but not the guy. What does he do that, say, Zach Wilson doesn't/can't? big time pass for me.


Penix played pretty badly but that was down to Michigan's D more than anything IMO. I posted here last week that this was not a good matchup for him. Michigan's DLine puts a lot o pressure on guys. They did that again last night and it made him rush things. I also said that the worst thing that could happen to him was he gets hurt again. Didn't seem major but he was holding his ribs/side all second half and someone mentioned he was limping in the tunnel. Not good signs for a guy with past injury problems.

May be nothing but who knows.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 11:05:54 AM   
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I didn't get to watch as closely as I wanted to but what I did notice is that JJM is exactly what I thought (and others have mentioned about him). Really good athlete but not the guy. What does he do that, say, Zach Wilson doesn't/can't? big time pass for me.


Penix played pretty badly but that was down to Michigan's D more than anything IMO. I posted here last week that this was not a good matchup for him. Michigan's DLine puts a lot o pressure on guys. They did that again last night and it made him rush things. I also said that the worst thing that could happen to him was he gets hurt again. Didn't seem major but he was holding his ribs/side all second half and someone mentioned he was limping in the tunnel. Not good signs for a guy with past injury problems.

May be nothing but who knows.


Sorry, I mentioned limping but that gives the impression he also sustained a leg injury. Basically, he was walking feebly probably due to the rib/side injury.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 11:06:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why would you need the #1 pick? The top 5-6 are about the same

#1 so you get the QB you're targeting, what you think is the best QB in the draft.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 11:07:30 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 11:08:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		What do you do about Williams, Daniels and Maye who all skipped their Bowl Games?

Is this a new trend, and did any of them win their Bowl game the previous season?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 11:31:33 AM   
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Why would you need the #1 pick? The top 5-6 are about the same
#1 so you get the QB you're targeting, what you think is the best QB in the draft.


You know how much draft capital that is?

It is Kramer-like ("They just write it off")

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 12:44:38 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 12:50:30 PM   
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ha ha

-Anytime he interjects God into a remark about his upcoming contract, watch out

Hey, God works in mysterious ways

-Dudes a pro at that stuff

And we've got people around here thinking he's stupid bc he used the recorder on his phone to learn plays. You said it yourself, O'Connell's quoting War and Peace into that microphone


You don't have to be smart to demand a fully guaranteed, high-dollar contact. You just have to feel entitled.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 12:53:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I didn't get to watch as closely as I wanted to but what I did notice is that JJM is exactly what I thought (and others have mentioned about him). Really good athlete but not the guy. What does he do that, say, Zach Wilson doesn't/can't? big time pass for me.


Penix played pretty badly but that was down to Michigan's D more than anything IMO. I posted here last week that this was not a good matchup for him. Michigan's DLine puts a lot o pressure on guys. They did that again last night and it made him rush things. I also said that the worst thing that could happen to him was he gets hurt again. Didn't seem major but he was holding his ribs/side all second half and someone mentioned he was limping in the tunnel. Not good signs for a guy with past injury problems.

May be nothing but who knows.


Sorry, I mentioned limping but that gives the impression he also sustained a leg injury. Basically, he was walking feebly probably due to the rib/side injury.



No worries. That actually may have upped his chances at being there at 11. He played through it so it wasn't too bad, whatever it was.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 1:08:07 PM   
Mark Anderson

 

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ha ha

-Anytime he interjects God into a remark about his upcoming contract, watch out

Hey, God works in mysterious ways

-Dudes a pro at that stuff

And we've got people around here thinking he's stupid bc he used the recorder on his phone to learn plays. You said it yourself, O'Connell's quoting War and Peace into that microphone


You don't have to be smart to demand a fully guaranteed, high-dollar contact. You just have to feel entitled.

I'm shocked that the NFLPA hasn't found a leader who can get guaranteed contracts for the players like they have in MLB and NBA.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 1:59:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

ha ha

-Anytime he interjects God into a remark about his upcoming contract, watch out

Hey, God works in mysterious ways

-Dudes a pro at that stuff

And we've got people around here thinking he's stupid bc he used the recorder on his phone to learn plays. You said it yourself, O'Connell's quoting War and Peace into that microphone


You don't have to be smart to demand a fully guaranteed, high-dollar contact. You just have to feel entitled.

I'm shocked that the NFLPA hasn't found a leader who can get guaranteed contracts for the players like they have in MLB and NBA.

They can't get contract structures like MLB. There is no salary cap and revenue sharing in baseball like there is in the NFL.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 2:24:19 PM   
Ricky J


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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

ha ha

-Anytime he interjects God into a remark about his upcoming contract, watch out

Hey, God works in mysterious ways

-Dudes a pro at that stuff

And we've got people around here thinking he's stupid bc he used the recorder on his phone to learn plays. You said it yourself, O'Connell's quoting War and Peace into that microphone


You don't have to be smart to demand a fully guaranteed, high-dollar contact. You just have to feel entitled.


He just didn't demand, he got it. Like it says in italics, Dudes a pro at that stuff or IOW, pretty smart about it.

-- like I said earlier, I was just playing. Im not here to get into any battles of defending or endorsing we sign him.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 2:24:49 PM   
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Tim thinking he's maybe on to something here ...

Tim K
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Ironic he beings this up now, a couple months before the Vikings might move on. Could have locked down a hometown discount deal last offseason if he wanted



He's only bringing it up now because he was asked about it while cleaning out his locker.

He actually didn't bring it up.

Good point
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 2:33:21 PM   
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We’re such a lucky franchise. No way will the most injured prospect ever have any problems staying healthy. And I if he breaks anything chances are we’ll miss it so it won’t count.


I thought you'd be impressed with him gutting it out and playing with the "broken foot".

I wonder what the exact diagnosis was/is. You can hear the term broken all the way from a little crack on an x-ray to a compound fracture.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 2:39:46 PM  1 votes
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/9/2024 3:36:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I didn't get to watch as closely as I wanted to but what I did notice is that JJM is exactly what I thought (and others have mentioned about him). Really good athlete but not the guy. What does he do that, say, Zach Wilson doesn't/can't? big time pass for me.


Penix played pretty badly but that was down to Michigan's D more than anything IMO. I posted here last week that this was not a good matchup for him. Michigan's DLine puts a lot o pressure on guys. They did that again last night and it made him rush things. I also said that the worst thing that could happen to him was he gets hurt again. Didn't seem major but he was holding his ribs/side all second half and someone mentioned he was limping in the tunnel. Not good signs for a guy with past injury problems.

May be nothing but who knows.


One of the Michigan D-Linemen fell on his ankle, bent pretty good, didn't look like fun.
Early 2nd half?
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