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ORIGINAL: David F.

A quick chime-in to point out that neither the Wilfs nor any other owner “spends their own money” on a damn thing. From the salary for the GM, the starting qb, down to the hourly pay for the person filling up popcorn boxes not one nickel comes from the owner. From the big drum and huge horn down to the newest shipment of towels and toilet paper the owners aren’t paying for any of it.

The fans pay for all of it. Season tickets, concessions, TV, corporate sponsors (who get the money from their customers), merch, and favorable tax treatment (aka public money), and the exponential growth of the value of their franchise (aka capital gains) fuel this enterprise. You could make the argument that some owners are slightly better than others in that they don’t pocket the entire 2000 truckloads of money each year. Sure, some “generously” reinvest four or five of the 2000 truckloads back into a nice practice facility in Eagan. Truly the salt of the earth, those types.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

It really hard to watch playoff teams like the lions and the pukers carving through the NFC..

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

It really hard to watch playoff teams like the lions and the pukers carving through the NFC..

One can only hope the Wilf's, Collaborator Kwesi, and Nice Guy O'Connell are forced to watch every minute. With the Bears set to kick ass in the draft and free agency, I'd like to know their plan to get out of the basement of the NFCN, let alone the NFC.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: David F.

A quick chime-in to point out that neither the Wilfs nor any other owner “spends their own money” on a damn thing. From the salary for the GM, the starting qb, down to the hourly pay for the person filling up popcorn boxes not one nickel comes from the owner. From the big drum and huge horn down to the newest shipment of towels and toilet paper the owners aren’t paying for any of it.

The fans pay for all of it. Season tickets, concessions, TV, corporate sponsors (who get the money from their customers), merch, and favorable tax treatment (aka public money), and the exponential growth of the value of their franchise (aka capital gains) fuel this enterprise. You could make the argument that some owners are slightly better than others in that they don’t pocket the entire 2000 truckloads of money each year. Sure, some “generously” reinvest four or five of the 2000 truckloads back into a nice practice facility in Eagan. Truly the salt of the earth, those types.

What set of fans?

Season tickets. Considering many Vikings fans sell their tickets when GB shows up in order to (by some accounts) recoup a significant cost of their season tickets, Green Bay Packers fans pay for a percentage of seats
Concessions. Yes, that's mostly Vikings fans eating and drinking.
TV. League-wide.
Corporate sponsors (who get the money from their customers). Vikings fans for local stuff, but it's difficult to say where the fans are and/or whether they are Vikings fans. Ex. U.S. Bank is nationwide.
Merch. Vikings fans, or allegiance to a particular player which may be quite a thing.
Favorable tax treatment (aka public money). The public.
The exponential growth of the value of their franchise (aka capital gains). League-wide.

So what do Vikings fans in particular fund? Some % of ticket sales, hot dogs, beer, ma & pa sponsors, jerseys.

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ORIGINAL: marty

I don't expect Bill to man up and admit he was wrong about Jordan Love, I fully expect him to try to turn that into the lie that I am a closet Packer fan.

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: marty

I don't expect Bill to man up and admit he was wrong about Jordan Love, I fully expect him to try to turn that into the lie that I am a closet Packer fan.

Let's not turn him into the 2nd coming yet. All I'm saying is if our young qb had a first playoff game like that we'd be stoked!

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: David F.

A quick chime-in to point out that neither the Wilfs nor any other owner “spends their own money” on a damn thing. From the salary for the GM, the starting qb, down to the hourly pay for the person filling up popcorn boxes not one nickel comes from the owner. From the big drum and huge horn down to the newest shipment of towels and toilet paper the owners aren’t paying for any of it.

The fans pay for all of it. Season tickets, concessions, TV, corporate sponsors (who get the money from their customers), merch, and favorable tax treatment (aka public money), and the exponential growth of the value of their franchise (aka capital gains) fuel this enterprise. You could make the argument that some owners are slightly better than others in that they don’t pocket the entire 2000 truckloads of money each year. Sure, some “generously” reinvest four or five of the 2000 truckloads back into a nice practice facility in Eagan. Truly the salt of the earth, those types.

What set of fans?

Season tickets. Considering many Vikings fans sell their tickets when GB shows up in order to (by some accounts) recoup a significant cost of their season tickets, Green Bay Packers fans pay for a percentage of seats
Concessions. Yes, that's mostly Vikings fans eating and drinking.
TV. League-wide.
Corporate sponsors (who get the money from their customers). Vikings fans for local stuff, but it's difficult to say where the fans are and/or whether they are Vikings fans. Ex. U.S. Bank is nationwide.
Merch. Vikings fans, or allegiance to a particular player which may be quite a thing.
Favorable tax treatment (aka public money). The public.
The exponential growth of the value of their franchise (aka capital gains). League-wide.

So what do Vikings fans in particular fund? Some % of ticket sales, hot dogs, beer, ma & pa sponsors, jerseys.

If I sell my packer tickets the Vikings still get my money. They also have about $15,000 of my money from SBLs. And then I flipped the script and bought packer tickets this year and traveled there for our game. Did I fund the packer organization?

The fans, directly and indirectly, pay for everything. Always have.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

It really hard to watch playoff teams like the lions and the pukers carving through the NFC..

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

It really hard to watch playoff teams like the lions and the pukers carving through the NFC..

One can only hope the Wilf's, Collaborator Kwesi, and Nice Guy O'Connell are forced to watch every minute. With the Bears set to kick ass in the draft and free agency, I'd like to know their plan to get out of the basement of the NFCN, let alone the NFC.

We're definitely on our way to the basement which I'm ok with. I, like you, would love to know the plan to build back up. Probably throw more at the wall and hope is all they got.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: David F.

A quick chime-in to point out that neither the Wilfs nor any other owner “spends their own money” on a damn thing. From the salary for the GM, the starting qb, down to the hourly pay for the person filling up popcorn boxes not one nickel comes from the owner. From the big drum and huge horn down to the newest shipment of towels and toilet paper the owners aren’t paying for any of it.

The fans pay for all of it. Season tickets, concessions, TV, corporate sponsors (who get the money from their customers), merch, and favorable tax treatment (aka public money), and the exponential growth of the value of their franchise (aka capital gains) fuel this enterprise. You could make the argument that some owners are slightly better than others in that they don’t pocket the entire 2000 truckloads of money each year. Sure, some “generously” reinvest four or five of the 2000 truckloads back into a nice practice facility in Eagan. Truly the salt of the earth, those types.

What set of fans?

Season tickets. Considering many Vikings fans sell their tickets when GB shows up in order to (by some accounts) recoup a significant cost of their season tickets, Green Bay Packers fans pay for a percentage of seats
Concessions. Yes, that's mostly Vikings fans eating and drinking.
TV. League-wide.
Corporate sponsors (who get the money from their customers). Vikings fans for local stuff, but it's difficult to say where the fans are and/or whether they are Vikings fans. Ex. U.S. Bank is nationwide.
Merch. Vikings fans, or allegiance to a particular player which may be quite a thing.
Favorable tax treatment (aka public money). The public.
The exponential growth of the value of their franchise (aka capital gains). League-wide.

So what do Vikings fans in particular fund? Some % of ticket sales, hot dogs, beer, ma & pa sponsors, jerseys.

If I sell my packer tickets the Vikings still get my money. They also have about $15,000 of my money from SBLs. And then I flipped the script and bought packer tickets this year and traveled there for our game. Did I fund the packer organization?

The fans, directly and indirectly, pay for everything. Always have.

A simple pass through. You pay Wilf, the packer fans pay you. Ergo, packer fans pay the Wilfs. You probably got tickets @ GB cheap lol.

Fans do not pay for everything, even indirectly. You yourself listed stadiums and favorable tax treatment (public money). And corporate sponsors. There are untold thousands (millions) of people who pay into a product or service (like US Bank) who are not NFL fans.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Lions safety Joseph destroy another TE ACL.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: timz

Packers pounding the Cowpukes

Any time the Packers play the Cowboys I think what a perfect moment and place for an asteroid strike.

No, that wish is saved for the RNC..

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

The story of the playoffs so far on opening weekend..............Jordan Love and CJ Stroud. Young quarterbacks with talent. At some point you'd think the Vikings brass would figure it out.