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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: David F.

A quick chime-in to point out that neither the Wilfs nor any other owner “spends their own money” on a damn thing. From the salary for the GM, the starting qb, down to the hourly pay for the person filling up popcorn boxes not one nickel comes from the owner. From the big drum and huge horn down to the newest shipment of towels and toilet paper the owners aren’t paying for any of it.

The fans pay for all of it. Season tickets, concessions, TV, corporate sponsors (who get the money from their customers), merch, and favorable tax treatment (aka public money), and the exponential growth of the value of their franchise (aka capital gains) fuel this enterprise. You could make the argument that some owners are slightly better than others in that they don’t pocket the entire 2000 truckloads of money each year. Sure, some “generously” reinvest four or five of the 2000 truckloads back into a nice practice facility in Eagan. Truly the salt of the earth, those types.

What set of fans?

Season tickets. Considering many Vikings fans sell their tickets when GB shows up in order to (by some accounts) recoup a significant cost of their season tickets, Green Bay Packers fans pay for a percentage of seats
Concessions. Yes, that's mostly Vikings fans eating and drinking.
TV. League-wide.
Corporate sponsors (who get the money from their customers). Vikings fans for local stuff, but it's difficult to say where the fans are and/or whether they are Vikings fans. Ex. U.S. Bank is nationwide.
Merch. Vikings fans, or allegiance to a particular player which may be quite a thing.
Favorable tax treatment (aka public money). The public.
The exponential growth of the value of their franchise (aka capital gains). League-wide.

So what do Vikings fans in particular fund? Some % of ticket sales, hot dogs, beer, ma & pa sponsors, jerseys.

If I sell my packer tickets the Vikings still get my money. They also have about $15,000 of my money from SBLs. And then I flipped the script and bought packer tickets this year and traveled there for our game. Did I fund the packer organization?

The fans, directly and indirectly, pay for everything. Always have.

A simple pass through. You pay Wilf, the packer fans pay you. Ergo, packer fans pay the Wilfs. You probably got tickets @ GB cheap lol.

Fans do not pay for everything, even indirectly. You yourself listed stadiums and favorable tax treatment (public money). And corporate sponsors. There are untold thousands (millions) of people who pay into a product or service (like US Bank) who are not NFL fans.

Oh I get where we’re not on the same page. I was incorrect when I said the fans pay it all. I should have said the owners don’t pay anything but fans and others pay it all.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

The story of the playoffs so far on opening weekend..............Jordan Love and CJ Stroud. Young quarterbacks with talent. At some point you'd think the Vikings brass would figure it out.

If we bring back Cousins and not draft a QB high in the 1st; we'll have the worst QB room in the division and will finish last in the north.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

The story of the playoffs so far on opening weekend..............Jordan Love and CJ Stroud. Young quarterbacks with talent. At some point you'd think the Vikings brass would figure it out.

If we bring back Cousins and not draft a QB high in the 1st; we'll have the worst QB room in the division and will finish last in the north.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The Cowboys cap situation makes the Vikings look frugal: https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/dallas-cowboys

They have some guy named Micah Parsons getting close to the end of his rookie contract. Same with some WR named Lamb.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The Cowboys cap situation makes the Vikings look frugal: https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/dallas-cowboys

They have some guy named Micah Parsons getting close to the end of his rookie contract. Same with some WR named Lamb.

So, to be clear - if you don't mind:

Dak has a cap number of $59,455,00. If they cut him pre 6/1 the cap hit for Dal would be $2,460,000 higher than if he played?

Cut Dak post 6/1 the cap hit (dead) would be $25,455,000?

Does that sound right?

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Packers pounding the Cowpukes

Any time the Packers play the Cowboys I think what a perfect moment and place for an asteroid strike.

No, that wish is saved for the RNC..

How about the Cowboys playing the Packers with the RNC iand the Nebraska Judiciary in attendance?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

The story of the playoffs so far on opening weekend..............Jordan Love and CJ Stroud. Young quarterbacks with talent. At some point you'd think the Vikings brass would figure it out.

If we bring back Cousins and not draft a QB high in the 1st; we'll have the worst QB room in the division and will finish last in the north.

Penix and a capable backup would at least hold promise to change that equation.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

The story of the playoffs so far on opening weekend..............Jordan Love and CJ Stroud. Young quarterbacks with talent. At some point you'd think the Vikings brass would figure it out.

If we bring back Cousins and not draft a QB high in the 1st; we'll have the worst QB room in the division and will finish last in the north.

Penix and a capable backup would at least hold promise to change that equation.

New qb or not, it just feels like we are going to get much worse before we get much better. With year three starting to feel like a real bottoming out.

We have Addison to show for two drafts. And Pace who doesnt count as good drafting. Meanwhile, the Packers sneeze and a decent wr prospect pops out.

We are up against it now. Just the fact that Kwesi is giving Cousins lip service at this point, regardless of what happens, shows that his head is still stuck in trying to not flop - not trying to get much better.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

The story of the playoffs so far on opening weekend..............Jordan Love and CJ Stroud. Young quarterbacks with talent. At some point you'd think the Vikings brass would figure it out.

If we bring back Cousins and not draft a QB high in the 1st; we'll have the worst QB room in the division and will finish last in the north.

Penix and a capable backup would at least hold promise to change that equation.

New qb or not, it just feels like we are going to get much worse before we get much better. With year three starting to feel like a real bottoming out.

We have Addison to show for two drafts. And Pace who doesnt count as good drafting. Meanwhile, the Packers sneeze and a decent wr prospect pops out.

We are up against it now. Just the fact that Kwesi is giving Cousins lip service at this point, regardless of what happens, shows that his head is still stuck in trying to not flop - not trying to get much better.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

The story of the playoffs so far on opening weekend..............Jordan Love and CJ Stroud. Young quarterbacks with talent. At some point you'd think the Vikings brass would figure it out.

If we bring back Cousins and not draft a QB high in the 1st; we'll have the worst QB room in the division and will finish last in the north.

Penix and a capable backup would at least hold promise to change that equation.

New qb or not, it just feels like we are going to get much worse before we get much better. With year three starting to feel like a real bottoming out.

We have Addison to show for two drafts. And Pace who doesnt count as good drafting. Meanwhile, the Packers sneeze and a decent wr prospect pops out.

We are up against it now. Just the fact that Kwesi is giving Cousins lip service at this point, regardless of what happens, shows that his head is still stuck in trying to not flop - not trying to get much better.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

The story of the playoffs so far on opening weekend..............Jordan Love and CJ Stroud. Young quarterbacks with talent. At some point you'd think the Vikings brass would figure it out.

If we bring back Cousins and not draft a QB high in the 1st; we'll have the worst QB room in the division and will finish last in the north.

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ORIGINAL: Lars

My $0.02:

Don't enjoy seeing GB win, but I did like seeing DAL get pounded!!

DAL seemed way to lax on defense. Love throwing while falling back to guys wide open! Love played well, but I think it was much more that DAL shit the bed.

Dak has a $60M cap number?! Ouch.

The Lions should have lost that game. Their pass defense is trash. Officiating was terrible and a big missed PI on LAR last 3rd down. Then McVay made some bad choices....

I don't buy the Penix hype.

I don't want KFC for another year.

Stroud has played outstanding.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Even if green lit I don’t trust Kwesi to rebuild the roster.

I don’t believe Kwesi can take what we have and move us up to the next level.

I don’t believe he’ll be successful maintaining the status quo to try and stay playoff competitive. Beyond a 50-50 chance we get in and are one and done.

Difficult time to be a fan.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Lars

My $0.02:

Don't enjoy seeing GB win, but I did like seeing DAL get pounded!!

DAL seemed way to lax on defense. Love throwing while falling back to guys wide open! Love played well, but I think it was much more that DAL shit the bed.

Dak has a $60M cap number?! Ouch.

The Lions should have lost that game. Their pass defense is trash. Officiating was terrible and a big missed PI on LAR last 3rd down. Then McVay made some bad choices....

I don't buy the Penix hype.

I don't want KFC for another year.

Stroud has played outstanding.

I thought the no call on Stafford getting pounded after he got rid of the ball by two people was bad. Where's the consistency?

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

The story of the playoffs so far on opening weekend..............Jordan Love and CJ Stroud. Young quarterbacks with talent. At some point you'd think the Vikings brass would figure it out.

If we bring back Cousins and not draft a QB high in the 1st; we'll have the worst QB room in the division and will finish last in the north.

Penix and a capable backup would at least hold promise to change that equation.

New qb or not, it just feels like we are going to get much worse before we get much better. With year three starting to feel like a real bottoming out.

We have Addison to show for two drafts. And Pace who doesnt count as good drafting. Meanwhile, the Packers sneeze and a decent wr prospect pops out.

We are up against it now. Just the fact that Kwesi is giving Cousins lip service at this point, regardless of what happens, shows that his head is still stuck in trying to not flop - not trying to get much better.

It sure feels like that.

Sorry but if after 2 years of a competitive rebuild you’re trending towards bottoming out you have failed. Now we get a year, maybe 2 of decisions that likely lead to a prolonged dig out if and when Kwesi is dropped. It’s a really shitty place to be.