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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/15/2024 10:36:04 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

And down goes Philly!

GB, SF, Det, TB

Hate Cousins or hate him even more, it would of been nice to see this play out. What a hs wasted year.

We saw it play out. Now we have Cousins coming off an Achilles. I hope we have a plan going forward.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/15/2024 10:53:12 PM

Ricky J

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

And down goes Philly!

GB, SF, Det, TB

Hate Cousins or hate him even more, it would of been nice to see this play out. What a hs wasted year.

We saw it play out. Now we have Cousins coming off an Achilles. I hope we have a plan going forward.

Yes we did. No sense wishing for something impossible.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/15/2024 11:06:56 PM

Ricky J

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

And down goes Philly!

GB, SF, Det, TB

Hate Cousins or hate him even more, it would of been nice to see this play out. What a hs wasted year.⁷

We saw it play out. Now we have Cousins coming off an Achilles. I hope we have a plan going forward.

Of course we do. But only one plan is going to work. Two plans will work if you're just happy getting there.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 3:45:47 AM 2 votes

Todd M

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

And down goes Philly!

GB, SF, Det, TB

Hate Cousins or hate him even more, it would of been nice to see this play out. What a hs wasted year.

Might have had something. Too bad Cousins allowed himself to be injured.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 8:47:16 AM

Daniel Lee Young

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I think we would have looked exactly as bad, or worse than Dallas or Philly..

Waffle stomped in the first round due to pearl clutching head coach, and NRPT QB and a decimated defense.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 9:30:39 AM

Tom Sykes

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

And down goes Philly!

GB, SF, Det, TB

Hate Cousins or hate him even more, it would of been nice to see this play out. What a hs wasted year.⁷

We saw it play out. Now we have Cousins coming off an Achilles. I hope we have a plan going forward.

Of course we do. But only one plan is going to work. Two plans will work if you're just happy getting there.

Having a plan doesn’t mean anything, if its not a good plan.

I see different faces but this team is not that much competitively different from the 8-9 team three years ago. With Cousins much less without.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 9:36:44 AM

Tom Sykes

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Our Competive Rebuild has us circling the drain after two years.

Time to move on from a modified spielmanesque version to something new and different.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 9:39:52 AM

Richard Neussendorfer

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

And down goes Philly!

GB, SF, Det, TB

Hate Cousins or hate him even more, it would of been nice to see this play out. What a hs wasted year.⁷

We saw it play out. Now we have Cousins coming off an Achilles. I hope we have a plan going forward.

Of course we do. But only one plan is going to work. Two plans will work if you're just happy getting there.

Having a plan doesn’t mean anything, if its not a good plan.

I see different faces but this team is not that much competitively different from the 8-9 team three years ago. With Cousins much less without.

I should have clarified. Yeah their plan is probably more of the same. Trade back and get nothing for it. Then draft a complete bum. I sure hope they have something competent.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 10:07:44 AM

Todd M

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If we replayed the season over 5 times with a healthy Cousins:

We’d make the playoffs all 5 times.
Advance into the Divisional round 4 times.
Make the NFCCG 3 times.
Make the SB twice.
Win it once.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 10:09:13 AM

Tom Sykes

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

And down goes Philly!

GB, SF, Det, TB

Hate Cousins or hate him even more, it would of been nice to see this play out. What a hs wasted year.⁷

We saw it play out. Now we have Cousins coming off an Achilles. I hope we have a plan going forward.

Of course we do. But only one plan is going to work. Two plans will work if you're just happy getting there.

Having a plan doesn’t mean anything, if its not a good plan.

I see different faces but this team is not that much competitively different from the 8-9 team three years ago. With Cousins much less without.

I should have clarified. Yeah their plan is probably more of the same. Trade back and get nothing for it. Then draft a complete bum. I sure hope they have something competent.

Thats how I read your post … hope we have a plan to move forward … not just continue down the same path.

My response was to Ricky’s emphatic ‘ofcourse’ in ‘we have a plan.’

Its going to get interesting starting with the Cousins decision. I would love to see Kwesi and Kevin try something different.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 10:11:12 AM

Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

If we replayed the season over 5 times with a healthy Cousins:

We’d make the playoffs all 5 times.
Advance into the Divisional round 4 times.
Make the NFCCG 3 times.
Make the SB twice.
Win it once.

You’ve been watching too many Marvel multiverse movies.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 10:14:03 AM

Bill Johanesen

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

And down goes Philly!

GB, SF, Det, TB

Hate Cousins or hate him even more, it would of been nice to see this play out. What a hs wasted year.

We saw it play out. Now we have Cousins coming off an Achilles. I hope we have a plan going forward.

Yes we did. No sense wishing for something impossible.

That's right. Seeing how it would have played out with Cousins this year, or next year, or the year after is impossible. But given the fact that Cousins has never strung two playoff wins together, my money would have been on a playoff failure, and depending on the odds, another Cousins choke job.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 10:22:32 AM

Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Our Competive Rebuild has us circling the drain after two years.

Time to move on from a modified spielmanesque version to something new and different.

Not sure what new and different could be but like the article in the link DL provided said, starting a rebuild in year 3 of a GMs tenure is not the usual MO.

The most likely outcome is the team bounces along the trail of mediocrity. THAT is the product of any vision or strategic plan they may have had. It's right in front of everyone to see!

Peeling back the onion, the problem is the Wilfs hired someone who could be pushed around, apparently by junior bro. owner Mark Wilf. A real GM with guts and a real record of success would have laughed in their meddling face during the interview.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 10:29:06 AM

Bill Johanesen

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It's also quite possible Kwesi continues to whiff in the draft and his 4th year is a lame duck season.

I don't fault him too much for free agent misses or a lack of an influx of talent because he had to deal with an upside down cap situation. But contracts like $13 million for Davenport, of which $7 million in dead cap counts against the upcoming cap? Really? I think that had Flores written all over it. If so, keep Flores away from the available FA list.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 10:30:48 AM

Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

If we replayed the season over 5 times with a healthy Cousins:

We’d make the playoffs all 5 times.
Advance into the Divisional round 4 times.
Make the NFCCG 3 times.
Make the SB twice.
Win it once.

You’ve been watching too many Marvel multiverse movies.

Even Marvel is more realistic than that pie in the sky unicorn dream. Good for a laugh though.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 10:55:08 AM

Todd M

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My new working theory is; We fans, and by we I mean most of y’all, need to change (y)our ways.

The collective negativity towards the team and its fans keep this franchise down.

You have poop hearted fans/people like Bill cancelling out 10 pure hearted people/fans with unwavering faith like myself.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 10:58:10 AM

Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

I think we would have looked exactly as bad, or worse than Dallas or Philly..

Waffle stomped in the first round due to pearl clutching head coach, and NRPT QB and a decimated defense.

I think you are very possibly wrong and are depending on learned behavior -

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 10:59:37 AM

Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

And down goes Philly!

GB, SF, Det, TB

Hate Cousins or hate him even more, it would of been nice to see this play out. What a hs wasted year.

We saw it play out. Now we have Cousins coming off an Achilles. I hope we have a plan going forward.

Yes we did. No sense wishing for something impossible.

That's right. Seeing how it would have played out with Cousins this year, or next year, or the year after is impossible. But given the fact that Cousins has never strung two playoff wins together, my money would have been on a playoff failure, and depending on the odds, another Cousins choke job.

Of course.

I wouldn't expect anything different from you!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 11:03:20 AM

Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

If we replayed the season over 5 times with a healthy Cousins:

We’d make the playoffs all 5 times.
Advance into the Divisional round 4 times.
Make the NFCCG 3 times.
Make the SB twice.
Win it once.

So 9-8 ( cousins normal win %) would get us in the playoffs all 5 times out of the nfc north..

Are you assuming cousins wins out?

What AI fed that line to you?

Did it have KOC coaching and Zero injuries All season?

This past seasons team was not playoff caliber even with Mr. Efiocre.. why?

Coaching and injuries to ol, receivers , defense in general,. Playing mattison, untill he gets hurt..

So many reasons..

I don’t drink purple koolaid any more and my glasses are jaundiced yellow, and jaded green, depressing blue…

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 11:04:30 AM

Ricky J

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

And down goes Philly!

GB, SF, Det, TB

Hate Cousins or hate him even more, it would of been nice to see this play out. What a hs wasted year.⁷

We saw it play out. Now we have Cousins coming off an Achilles. I hope we have a plan going forward.

Of course we do. But only one plan is going to work. Two plans will work if you're just happy getting there.

Having a plan doesn’t mean anything, if its not a good plan.

I see different faces but this team is not that much competitively different from the 8-9 team three years ago. With Cousins much less without.

edit: Of course we do, all 32 teams will have a plan. But only one plan is going to work, and that team will win the SB. Two plans will work if you're just happy getting there, to the SB and not winning.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 11:08:57 AM

Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

If we replayed the season over 5 times with a healthy Cousins:

We’d make the playoffs all 5 times.
Advance into the Divisional round 4 times.
Make the NFCCG 3 times.
Make the SB twice.
Win it once.

I like it! I like most how it stirs up the Negative Nancy's

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 11:09:19 AM

Daniel Lee Young

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My pessimistic attitude is based on three things..

Coaching, first,
GM second..

And the possibility that KFC might be signed to any kind of extension..

KOC is a clueless play calling fool..
KAM is a word salad wishy washy draft moron
And KFC is the definition of mediocre.

JMO.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/16/2024 11:10:56 AM

Richard Neussendorfer

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

And down goes Philly!

GB, SF, Det, TB

Hate Cousins or hate him even more, it would of been nice to see this play out. What a hs wasted year.⁷

We saw it play out. Now we have Cousins coming off an Achilles. I hope we have a plan going forward.

Of course we do. But only one plan is going to work. Two plans will work if you're just happy getting there.

Having a plan doesn’t mean anything, if its not a good plan.

I see different faces but this team is not that much competitively different from the 8-9 team three years ago. With Cousins much less without.

edit: Of course we do, all 32 teams will have a plan. But only one plan is going to work, and that team will win the SB. Two plans will work if you're just happy getting there, to the SB and not winning.