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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

No Phil… even a higher level of talent WPULD NOT CATCH THAT GARBAGE THROW….

duh…

Your unconditional love for Kirk once again shining thru. Make a play Kirk, Make a play Kirk, Make every single play Kirk or I am going to trash you once again... (He made a ton of plays throughout the game)....rinse repeat...

Kirk himself said it was on him and the one throw that he wanted back.

Even the guy who threw the ball doesn't believe what you believe.

What is he supposed to say. He made plays all afternoon and threw it a little behind KJ who had a chance to make a play. Like I said--if he doesn't play perfectly you go cry a river....go watch replays of Tavaris, Ponder, Teddy.

Definition of moving the goal post. Kirk doesn't make all the plays; again BS; watch replays Tavaris, Ponder, and Teddy.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

No Phil… even a higher level of talent WPULD NOT CATCH THAT GARBAGE THROW….
duh…

Your unconditional love for Kirk once again shining thru. Make a play Kirk, Make a play Kirk, Make every single play Kirk or I am going to trash you once again... (He made a ton of plays throughout the game)....rinse repeat...

Kirk himself said it was on him and the one throw that he wanted back.
Even the guy who threw the ball doesn't believe what you believe.

What is he supposed to say. He made plays all afternoon and threw it a little behind KJ who had a chance to make a play. Like I said--if he doesn't play perfectly you go cry a river....go watch replays of Tavaris, Ponder, Teddy.
Definition of moving the goal post. Kirk doesn't make all the plays; again BS; watch replays Tavaris, Ponder, and Teddy.

Yes. It could be worse.
But
It could be so much better.
Cousins is like Vinny Testaverde or Ken O'Brien. good enough QB for the most part but not the guy who will ever get you to the promised land. Marino only got to the Superbowl ONCE. Lost it and never sniffed the big game again.
NFL history is littered with Kirk Cousins.
We could use better.

I am a fan of the Vikings. I posted the option I thought was doable and wouldn't involve tanking; trade a third for Lance. To accuse any fan or poster of the Vikes of being a fanboy of Kirk needs to remember there isn't a history of great or even good QBs. There is Fran as great and partials from Brad, Tommy, Dante, Wade, Brett, Randall, and a good year from George--- that is about it over 60 years.

So if you talk about a Vinny or a Ken that is probably as close to a #2 to Tommy; there just isn't much there.

If you get rid of Kirk you better have an option better than a Ponder, Tavaris, or Teddy because they weren't even average and talk about horrible offense.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

No Phil… even a higher level of talent WPULD NOT CATCH THAT GARBAGE THROW….
duh…

Your unconditional love for Kirk once again shining thru. Make a play Kirk, Make a play Kirk, Make every single play Kirk or I am going to trash you once again... (He made a ton of plays throughout the game)....rinse repeat...

Kirk himself said it was on him and the one throw that he wanted back.
Even the guy who threw the ball doesn't believe what you believe.

What is he supposed to say. He made plays all afternoon and threw it a little behind KJ who had a chance to make a play. Like I said--if he doesn't play perfectly you go cry a river....go watch replays of Tavaris, Ponder, Teddy.
Definition of moving the goal post. Kirk doesn't make all the plays; again BS; watch replays Tavaris, Ponder, and Teddy.

Yes. It could be worse.
But
It could be so much better.
Cousins is like Vinny Testaverde or Ken O'Brien. good enough QB for the most part but not the guy who will ever get you to the promised land. Marino only got to the Superbowl ONCE. Lost it and never sniffed the big game again.
NFL history is littered with Kirk Cousins.
We could use better.

I am a fan of the Vikings. I posted the option I thought was doable and wouldn't involve tanking; trade a third for Lance. To accuse any fan or poster of the Vikes of being a fanboy of Kirk needs to remember there isn't a history of great or even good QBs. There is Fran as great and partials from Brad, Tommy, Dante, Wade, Brett, Randall, and a good year from George--- that is about it over 60 years.

So if you talk about a Vinny or a Ken that is probably as close to a #2 to Tommy; there just isn't much there.

If you get rid of Kirk you better have an option better than a Ponder, Tavaris, or Teddy because they weren't even average and talk about horrible offense.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

No Phil… even a higher level of talent WPULD NOT CATCH THAT GARBAGE THROW….
duh…

Your unconditional love for Kirk once again shining thru. Make a play Kirk, Make a play Kirk, Make every single play Kirk or I am going to trash you once again... (He made a ton of plays throughout the game)....rinse repeat...

Kirk himself said it was on him and the one throw that he wanted back.
Even the guy who threw the ball doesn't believe what you believe.

What is he supposed to say. He made plays all afternoon and threw it a little behind KJ who had a chance to make a play. Like I said--if he doesn't play perfectly you go cry a river....go watch replays of Tavaris, Ponder, Teddy.
Definition of moving the goal post. Kirk doesn't make all the plays; again BS; watch replays Tavaris, Ponder, and Teddy.

Yes. It could be worse.
But
It could be so much better.
Cousins is like Vinny Testaverde or Ken O'Brien. good enough QB for the most part but not the guy who will ever get you to the promised land. Marino only got to the Superbowl ONCE. Lost it and never sniffed the big game again.
NFL history is littered with Kirk Cousins.
We could use better.

I am a fan of the Vikings. I posted the option I thought was doable and wouldn't involve tanking; trade a third for Lance. To accuse any fan or poster of the Vikes of being a fanboy of Kirk needs to remember there isn't a history of great or even good QBs. There is Fran as great and partials from Brad, Tommy, Dante, Wade, Brett, Randall, and a good year from George--- that is about it over 60 years.

So if you talk about a Vinny or a Ken that is probably as close to a #2 to Tommy; there just isn't much there.

If you get rid of Kirk you better have an option better than a Ponder, Tavaris, or Teddy because they weren't even average and talk about horrible offense.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the goalposts have moved. Remember, they are portable... and apt to move again on a moment's notice.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

No Phil… even a higher level of talent WPULD NOT CATCH THAT GARBAGE THROW….
duh…

Your unconditional love for Kirk once again shining thru. Make a play Kirk, Make a play Kirk, Make every single play Kirk or I am going to trash you once again... (He made a ton of plays throughout the game)....rinse repeat...

Kirk himself said it was on him and the one throw that he wanted back.
Even the guy who threw the ball doesn't believe what you believe.

What is he supposed to say. He made plays all afternoon and threw it a little behind KJ who had a chance to make a play. Like I said--if he doesn't play perfectly you go cry a river....go watch replays of Tavaris, Ponder, Teddy.
Definition of moving the goal post. Kirk doesn't make all the plays; again BS; watch replays Tavaris, Ponder, and Teddy.

Yes. It could be worse.
But
It could be so much better.
Cousins is like Vinny Testaverde or Ken O'Brien. good enough QB for the most part but not the guy who will ever get you to the promised land. Marino only got to the Superbowl ONCE. Lost it and never sniffed the big game again.
NFL history is littered with Kirk Cousins.
We could use better.

I am a fan of the Vikings. I posted the option I thought was doable and wouldn't involve tanking; trade a third for Lance. To accuse any fan or poster of the Vikes of being a fanboy of Kirk needs to remember there isn't a history of great or even good QBs. There is Fran as great and partials from Brad, Tommy, Dante, Wade, Brett, Randall, and a good year from George--- that is about it over 60 years.

So if you talk about a Vinny or a Ken that is probably as close to a #2 to Tommy; there just isn't much there.

If you get rid of Kirk you better have an option better than a Ponder, Tavaris, or Teddy because they weren't even average and talk about horrible offense.

Why?

I'd rather have any of the above with their salary for a year instead of Kurt and his. We would have been able to add a few more players on defense and the Oline with a better chance to go farther. Didn't all of those QB's take us to the playoffs?

Trade Cousins, please!!!

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

No Phil… even a higher level of talent WPULD NOT CATCH THAT GARBAGE THROW….
duh…

Your unconditional love for Kirk once again shining thru. Make a play Kirk, Make a play Kirk, Make every single play Kirk or I am going to trash you once again... (He made a ton of plays throughout the game)....rinse repeat...

Kirk himself said it was on him and the one throw that he wanted back.
Even the guy who threw the ball doesn't believe what you believe.

What is he supposed to say. He made plays all afternoon and threw it a little behind KJ who had a chance to make a play. Like I said--if he doesn't play perfectly you go cry a river....go watch replays of Tavaris, Ponder, Teddy.
Definition of moving the goal post. Kirk doesn't make all the plays; again BS; watch replays Tavaris, Ponder, and Teddy.

Yes. It could be worse.
But
It could be so much better.
Cousins is like Vinny Testaverde or Ken O'Brien. good enough QB for the most part but not the guy who will ever get you to the promised land. Marino only got to the Superbowl ONCE. Lost it and never sniffed the big game again.
NFL history is littered with Kirk Cousins.
We could use better.

I am a fan of the Vikings. I posted the option I thought was doable and wouldn't involve tanking; trade a third for Lance. To accuse any fan or poster of the Vikes of being a fanboy of Kirk needs to remember there isn't a history of great or even good QBs. There is Fran as great and partials from Brad, Tommy, Dante, Wade, Brett, Randall, and a good year from George--- that is about it over 60 years.

So if you talk about a Vinny or a Ken that is probably as close to a #2 to Tommy; there just isn't much there.

If you get rid of Kirk you better have an option better than a Ponder, Tavaris, or Teddy because they weren't even average and talk about horrible offense.

Why?

I'd rather have any of the above with their salary for a year instead of Kurt and his. We would have been able to add a few more players on defense and the Oline with a better chance to go farther. Didn't all of those QB's take us to the playoffs?

Trade Cousins, please!!!

2024.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

No Phil… even a higher level of talent WPULD NOT CATCH THAT GARBAGE THROW….
duh…

Your unconditional love for Kirk once again shining thru. Make a play Kirk, Make a play Kirk, Make every single play Kirk or I am going to trash you once again... (He made a ton of plays throughout the game)....rinse repeat...

Kirk himself said it was on him and the one throw that he wanted back.
Even the guy who threw the ball doesn't believe what you believe.

What is he supposed to say. He made plays all afternoon and threw it a little behind KJ who had a chance to make a play. Like I said--if he doesn't play perfectly you go cry a river....go watch replays of Tavaris, Ponder, Teddy.
Definition of moving the goal post. Kirk doesn't make all the plays; again BS; watch replays Tavaris, Ponder, and Teddy.

Yes. It could be worse.
But
It could be so much better.
Cousins is like Vinny Testaverde or Ken O'Brien. good enough QB for the most part but not the guy who will ever get you to the promised land. Marino only got to the Superbowl ONCE. Lost it and never sniffed the big game again.
NFL history is littered with Kirk Cousins.
We could use better.

I am a fan of the Vikings. I posted the option I thought was doable and wouldn't involve tanking; trade a third for Lance. To accuse any fan or poster of the Vikes of being a fanboy of Kirk needs to remember there isn't a history of great or even good QBs. There is Fran as great and partials from Brad, Tommy, Dante, Wade, Brett, Randall, and a good year from George--- that is about it over 60 years.

So if you talk about a Vinny or a Ken that is probably as close to a #2 to Tommy; there just isn't much there.

If you get rid of Kirk you better have an option better than a Ponder, Tavaris, or Teddy because they weren't even average and talk about horrible offense.

Why?

I'd rather have any of the above with their salary for a year instead of Kurt and his. We would have been able to add a few more players on defense and the Oline with a better chance to go farther. Didn't all of those QB's take us to the playoffs?

Trade Cousins, please!!!

2024.

Yes, wait until he’s a FA to trade him. Nitwit.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Why do I need to name a replacement for Kirk or my strategy is invalid? The draft is over. Free agency is over. I went through this last year, the year before, and the year before. I'm not in any position to draft a player into the NFL and they don't take my input on who to resign and for how much. It's now 05/10/2023 and no shit there's not a replacement to be found. Because I can't replace Kirk this very minute with a known quantity doesn't invalidate my argument. In fact, no replacement is a known quantity anyway. A new QB may have pocket presence or some mobility and might take 30 sacks instead of 48. A lesser talented QB could prove to be more assertive with going through reads or takes a few more chances. etc etc etc...

But to say it's foolish to end the Kirk Cousins era because I can't name his replacement in the middle of May is ridiculous. We work with domestic violence offenders and victims at my job. I'll bring it up next chance I get that we should be telling our victims that unless they can name their new mate and guarantee he/she will be better then it's just silly to talk about ending their current relationship. I think that idea is going to be popular.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Murph
Trade Cousins, please!!!

2024.

Yes, wait until he’s a FA to trade him. Nitwit.

He has a no trade clause; who is the nitwit? He will be gone in 2024.

A nitwit is someone who keeps drawing up scenarios that aren't going to happen. Trading Kirk this offseason was one of those.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Why do I need to name a replacement for Kirk or my strategy is invalid? The draft is over. Free agency is over. I went through this last year, the year before, and the year before. I'm not in any position to draft a player into the NFL and they don't take my input on who to resign and for how much. It's now 05/10/2023 and no shit there's not a replacement to be found. Because I can't replace Kirk this very minute with a known quantity doesn't invalidate my argument. In fact, no replacement is a known quantity anyway. A new QB may have pocket presence or some mobility and might take 30 sacks instead of 48. A lesser talented QB could prove to be more assertive with going through reads or takes a few more chances. etc etc etc...

But to say it's foolish to end the Kirk Cousins era because I can't name his replacement in the middle of May is ridiculous. We work with domestic violence offenders and victims at my job. I'll bring it up next chance I get that we should be telling our victims that unless they can name their new mate and guarantee he/she will be better then it's just silly to talk about ending their current relationship. I think that idea is going to be popular.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Why do I need to name a replacement for Kirk or my strategy is invalid? The draft is over. Free agency is over. I went through this last year, the year before, and the year before. I'm not in any position to draft a player into the NFL and they don't take my input on who to resign and for how much. It's now 05/10/2023 and no shit there's not a replacement to be found. Because I can't replace Kirk this very minute with a known quantity doesn't invalidate my argument. In fact, no replacement is a known quantity anyway. A new QB may have pocket presence or some mobility and might take 30 sacks instead of 48. A lesser talented QB could prove to be more assertive with going through reads or takes a few more chances. etc etc etc...

But to say it's foolish to end the Kirk Cousins era because I can't name his replacement in the middle of May is ridiculous. We work with domestic violence offenders and victims at my job. I'll bring it up next chance I get that we should be telling our victims that unless they can name their new mate and guarantee he/she will be better then it's just silly to talk about ending their current relationship. I think that idea is going to be popular.

Pwned..

Kirk fanboys are all about but..but..butwhatabout…

Phil won’t even acknowledge that the QBKs he likes to throw out there as failures, Ponder, Bridgewater, Jackson, all have one very important thing in common with KFC…

They have done nothing for this franchise and their peak performance level is not winning when the chips are all in and the game/ season/ playoffs are on the line.

Useless to try to make a fanboy for Kirk see any flaw..

Even if 90% of the rest of the NFL fan base, and ownership, see the same thing.

It’s time to move on..

Crash and burn, being mediocre.. it’s not going to change until KFC is gone.

Go to Jesus, mfr, go…

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J
Dan, you want to get rid of KOC after his first year as a head coach and 13 wins?
ha ha!
You're just blowing off steam.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J
Dan, you want to get rid of KOC after his first year as a head coach and 13 wins?
ha ha!
You're just blowing off steam.

Or off of his meds again.
Everyone not in the hate Kirk group is a fanboy....

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Why do I need to name a replacement for Kirk or my strategy is invalid? The draft is over. Free agency is over. I went through this last year, the year before, and the year before. I'm not in any position to draft a player into the NFL and they don't take my input on who to resign and for how much. It's now 05/10/2023 and no shit there's not a replacement to be found. Because I can't replace Kirk this very minute with a known quantity doesn't invalidate my argument. In fact, no replacement is a known quantity anyway. A new QB may have pocket presence or some mobility and might take 30 sacks instead of 48. A lesser talented QB could prove to be more assertive with going through reads or takes a few more chances. etc etc etc...

But to say it's foolish to end the Kirk Cousins era because I can't name his replacement in the middle of May is ridiculous. We work with domestic violence offenders and victims at my job. I'll bring it up next chance I get that we should be telling our victims that unless they can name their new mate and guarantee he/she will be better then it's just silly to talk about ending their current relationship. I think that idea is going to be popular.

Pwned..

Kirk fanboys are all about but..but..butwhatabout…

Phil won’t even acknowledge that the QBKs he likes to throw out there as failures, Ponder, Bridgewater, Jackson, all have one very important thing in common with KFC…

They have done nothing for this franchise and their peak performance level is not winning when the chips are all in and the game/ season/ playoffs are on the line.

Useless to try to make a fanboy for Kirk see any flaw..

Even if 90% of the rest of the NFL fan base, and ownership, see the same thing.

It’s time to move on..

Crash and burn, being mediocre.. it’s not going to change until KFC is gone.

Go to Jesus, mfr, go…

You forgot Tarkenton in that group.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J
Dan, you want to get rid of KOC after his first year as a head coach and 13 wins?
ha ha!
You're just blowing off steam.

Or off of his meds again.
Everyone not in the hate Kirk group is a fanboy....

Yea, you are..

By definition,

and my meds have absolutely nothing to do with KFC being a mediocre, overpaid POS wannabe, OR the stench of a packer icon putting on #4 and doing the stupidest thing I have ever seen besides HTAFK, in an NFCCG.

If you defend KFC, or try to put blame for his complete lack of top tier “leadership”, any where else, you are by definition, a fanboy.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J
Dan, you want to get rid of KOC after his first year as a head coach and 13 wins?
ha ha!
You're just blowing off steam.

Or off of his meds again.
Everyone not in the hate Kirk group is a fanboy....

Yea, you are..

By definition,

and my meds have absolutely nothing to do with KFC being a mediocre, overpaid POS wannabe, OR the stench of a packer icon putting on #4 and doing the stupidest thing I have ever seen besides HTAFK, in an NFCCG.

If you defend KFC, or try to put blame for his complete lack of top tier “leadership”, any where else, you are by definition, a fanboy.

Every team but 2-3 put their best team on the field by game one of 2022; same will apply in 2023.....whatever direction you want to keep telling yourself or patting yourself wherever---was not the direction the FO, Coach, etc. thought to put the best team out there. Take your meds, don't take your meds....I don't care.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J
Dan, you want to get rid of KOC after his first year as a head coach and 13 wins?
ha ha!
You're just blowing off steam.

Or off of his meds again.
Everyone not in the hate Kirk group is a fanboy....

Yea, you are..

By definition,

and my meds have absolutely nothing to do with KFC being a mediocre, overpaid POS wannabe, OR the stench of a packer icon putting on #4 and doing the stupidest thing I have ever seen besides HTAFK, in an NFCCG.

If you defend KFC, or try to put blame for his complete lack of top tier “leadership”, any where else, you are by definition, a fanboy.

Every team but 2-3 put their best team on the field by game one of 2022; same will apply in 2023.....whatever direction you want to keep telling yourself or patting yourself wherever---was not the direction the FO, Coach, etc. thought to put the best team out there. Take your meds, don't take your meds....I don't care.

“Keep the talk of my meds out of your mouth..”

( Will Smith to Chris rock Slap….)

Lame ass ****..