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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I think it would deplete our picks too much to try and get back into the 2nd.

After years of Spielman's "quantity over quality", I'm not opposed to trying the opposite.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I think it would deplete our picks too much to try and get back into the 2nd.

After years of Spielman's "quantity over quality", I'm not opposed to trying the opposite.

We're partway there with #11 and #23.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I think it would deplete our picks too much to try and get back into the 2nd.

After years of Spielman's "quantity over quality", I'm not opposed to trying the opposite.

We're partway there with #11 and #23.

We're already there by getting #23

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ORIGINAL: marty

I was right about the importance of WR at the time I suggested drafting one every round, the Vikings had very little at WR at the time.

Since it's so hard to get a franchise QB, and this is supposed to be a great year for QBs, getting 2 of the top 6 might tilt the odds a little in your favor, and you walk away with a franchise QB. That might not be so bad.

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At this point in the process, based on everything I’ve heard, I don’t think the Vikings can afford to wait until No. 11 if they want one of the top four quarterbacks. They’re going to have to trade up. Are they giving up too much? It’s certainly possible. But if they believe McCarthy can be their long-term Kirk Cousins replacement, shouldn’t they be OK with sending out their 2025 first-rounder?

I have McCarthy at No. 14 on my Big Board, but I can see on tape why a team might take him in the top five. He has intriguing physical traits and took a huge step forward as a precision passer in 2023. In Minnesota, with Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison and T.J. Hockenson catching his passes, he would have the playmakers around him to succeed as a rookie.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: marty

I was right about the importance of WR at the time I suggested drafting one every round, the Vikings had very little at WR at the time.

Since it's so hard to get a franchise QB, and this is supposed to be a great year for QBs, getting 2 of the top 6 might tilt the odds a little in your favor, and you walk away with a franchise QB. That might not be so bad.

You play (and even start!) multiple WRs. Not so with QB.

And all of them are going to need significant work to reach their potential. You can't split that up between 2 guys. If you draft 2, you're more likely to get zero.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: marty

I was right about the importance of WR at the time I suggested drafting one every round, the Vikings had very little at WR at the time.

Since it's so hard to get a franchise QB, and this is supposed to be a great year for QBs, getting 2 of the top 6 might tilt the odds a little in your favor, and you walk away with a franchise QB. That might not be so bad.

You play (and even start!) multiple WRs. Not so with QB.

And all of them are going to need significant work to reach their potential. You can't split that up between 2 guys. If you draft 2, you're more likely to get zero.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: marty

I was right about the importance of WR at the time I suggested drafting one every round, the Vikings had very little at WR at the time.

Since it's so hard to get a franchise QB, and this is supposed to be a great year for QBs, getting 2 of the top 6 might tilt the odds a little in your favor, and you walk away with a franchise QB. That might not be so bad.

You play (and even start!) multiple WRs. Not so with QB.

And all of them are going to need significant work to reach their potential. You can't split that up between 2 guys. If you draft 2, you're more likely to get zero.

And QB isn't even close to our only need.

We can't afford to spend two picks on QBs. Especially high ones.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I think it would deplete our picks too much to try and get back into the 2nd.

After years of Spielman's "quantity over quality", I'm not opposed to trying the opposite.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Kwesi pre draft presser:


Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN
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19m
(Take 2). Adofo-Mensah, like most GMs, didn't offer many specifics in this presser. But he had a few quotes worth noting. First: "Just because something's risky doesn't mean you have to stay away from it."
Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN
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18m
Also, "There are multiple [QBs] that we are in love with just on an outright basis. But there are also other guys we're in love with, given if we got them at a certain value, what they'd also be able to come with...."
Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN
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17m
"... Skill-set wise, if you're talking about the ability to overcome context, well if the guy's got less ability [to do that] but we've got assets to go get somebody that's not going to put him in that situation, those things add up too."
Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN
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8m
Essentially what he's saying is that the Vikings love at least some of the top tier QBs, who could presumably carry a team, but they also love some of the 2nd tier guys who wouldn't require a trade up, and thus would leave them with more assets to build a better team around him.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Kwesi pre draft presser:


Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN
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19m
(Take 2). Adofo-Mensah, like most GMs, didn't offer many specifics in this presser. But he had a few quotes worth noting. First: "Just because something's risky doesn't mean you have to stay away from it."
Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN
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18m
Also, "There are multiple [QBs] that we are in love with just on an outright basis. But there are also other guys we're in love with, given if we got them at a certain value, what they'd also be able to come with...."
Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN
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17m
"... Skill-set wise, if you're talking about the ability to overcome context, well if the guy's got less ability [to do that] but we've got assets to go get somebody that's not going to put him in that situation, those things add up too."
Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN
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8m
Essentially what he's saying is that the Vikings love at least some of the top tier QBs, who could presumably carry a team, but they also love some of the 2nd tier guys who wouldn't require a trade up, and thus would leave them with more assets to build a better team around him.

What it sounds like to me is if a guy they really love/covet is there with a trade up, they will pursue it but wont break the bank for any of them. They have set a limit as to how much they will give up to trade up and will be comfortable drafting one of the lower tier guys if they don't get one of the top guys.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Kiper:

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At this point in the process, based on everything I’ve heard, I don’t think the Vikings can afford to wait until No. 11 if they want one of the top four quarterbacks. They’re going to have to trade up. Are they giving up too much? It’s certainly possible. But if they believe McCarthy can be their long-term Kirk Cousins replacement, shouldn’t they be OK with sending out their 2025 first-rounder?

I have McCarthy at No. 14 on my Big Board, but I can see on tape why a team might take him in the top five. He has intriguing physical traits and took a huge step forward as a precision passer in 2023. In Minnesota, with Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison and T.J. Hockenson catching his passes, he would have the playmakers around him to succeed as a rookie.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Kwesi pre draft presser:


Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN
·
19m
(Take 2). Adofo-Mensah, like most GMs, didn't offer many specifics in this presser. But he had a few quotes worth noting. First: "Just because something's risky doesn't mean you have to stay away from it."
Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN
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18m
Also, "There are multiple [QBs] that we are in love with just on an outright basis. But there are also other guys we're in love with, given if we got them at a certain value, what they'd also be able to come with...."
Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN
·
17m
"... Skill-set wise, if you're talking about the ability to overcome context, well if the guy's got less ability [to do that] but we've got assets to go get somebody that's not going to put him in that situation, those things add up too."
Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN
·
8m
Essentially what he's saying is that the Vikings love at least some of the top tier QBs, who could presumably carry a team, but they also love some of the 2nd tier guys who wouldn't require a trade up, and thus would leave them with more assets to build a better team around him.

What it sounds like to me is if a guy they really love/covet is there with a trade up, they will pursue it but wont break the bank for any of them. They have set a limit as to how much they will give up to trade up and will be comfortable drafting one of the lower tier guys if they don't get one of the top guys.

He's hedging his bet so no matter what happens, he can refer back to it being what we wanted all along.

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

I'm sure this has been mentioned at some point.
If we get beat out for the top 3 or maybe 4 for a QB, Thoughts about trading up for Marvin Harrison Jr? Carter and Moss made 3 average QB's look like pro bowlers. I'd think this trio with Hockenson and Aaron Jones could do the same of even more for Darnold. So we wait for a year to upgrade the QB position or see what might come available. That would be some darn nice offensive weapons for 4-5 years before it became a cap issue.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Washington gets - #11, #23, 25/26/27 1sts, 24 4th and 6th, 25 3rd.

Vikings get - #2, #40, 25 2nd round pick.

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ORIGINAL: marty

I was right about the importance of WR at the time I suggested drafting one every round, the Vikings had very little at WR at the time.

Since it's so hard to get a franchise QB, and this is supposed to be a great year for QBs, getting 2 of the top 6 might tilt the odds a little in your favor, and you walk away with a franchise QB. That might not be so bad.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Option 1 - Biggest move in draft history…Vikings trade 5 1sts to get to 2 for Daniels.

Option 2 - Our 2 frp’s to 5…Vikings take McCarthy.

Option 3 - Vikings take Penix or Nix at 11.

Super exciting, kind of exciting, play it safe.